Advice for a 2023 Rav4 Hybrid tires..

[THORROMIG]

Rav4 Hybrid in signature is approaching 30K here shortly. Presently has Michelin tires from factory that have been rotated every 10K. Not crazy on the handling characteristics of the Michelin when on back roads going the speed limit or maybe acouple miles over. Being where I reside and having AWD and rarely getting any snow. If we get 3 inches at one shot -- thats a winter storm here nowadays.


Thanks, Ken

 

[FZ1]

Rav4 Hybrid in signature is approaching 30K here shortly. Presently has Michelin tires from factory that have been rotated every 10K. Not crazy on the handling characteristics of the Michelin when on back roads going the speed limit or maybe acouple miles over. Being where I reside and having AWD and rarely getting any snow. If we get 3 inches at one shot -- thats a winter storm here nowadays.


Thanks, Ken

I would drive it down to 3/32, take it to Discount tire, get a pro rated credit, and get a new set of Michelin Defender 2's. But that's just me. YMMV.

 

[Rand]

I would drive it down to 3/32, take it to Discount tire, get a pro rated credit, and get a new set of Michelin Defender 2's. But that's just me. YMMV.

there is no pro rated credit on original tires that come on new car.
Although @THORROMIG doesn't actually specify which tires actually came with the car.

 

[Sequoiasoon]

My sister has I think a '20 Rav4 Hybrid. She is on her 2nd set of CC2's. She replaced the first ones at about 4-5/32" because of winter traction issues. No prorate when replaced early. She didn't care as her positive dry/wet/snow experience over factory Michelin was enough to buy a new set of them. Her husband also has them now on his Tiguan R line.

She said she didn't lose any MPG/range that she could tell.

That said - hit up Tire Rack and watch the videos from their latest tests and go with what priorities you like. I'm torn between CC2, WeatherReady 2, Pirelli AS3, Conti DWS-06+ for My Accord next. Their testing with emergency lane change puts the Weatherready 2 ahead of the CC2 IMO. How long that holds performance over CC2 is another question. If only doing a "one" tire, no separate winter, I'd probably get an all weather version.

Conti CrossContact LX25 gets very good ratings and has for a long time including in light snow but is not 3PMSF

Go with the off road look and get Cooper Road+Trail. They seem very nice on father-in-laws Renegade. Soft ride, quiet.

Best touring tire.

All season road test

 

[slacktide_bitog]

What is your tire size?

Black Friday/Cyber Monday will be coming soon, so look out for deals. Also, remember that DT/AT has stores in Exton, Whitehall, Scranton, and Wilkes-Barre, if any of them are close enough to you.

You should consider all-weather tires, such as the Toyo Celsius II. Other good all-weather tires:
Nokian WRG5
Nordman Solstice 4 (the old WRG4)
Kumho HA32
General 365AW
Vredestein Quatrac Pro

If you want something cheaper:
Rovelo Instinct AW
Ironhead Reflex AW1
Lexani Quattro Tempo Tour
Prinx Hiseason 4S HS1

 

[FZ1]

there is no pro rated credit on original tires that come on new car.
Although @THORROMIG doesn't actually specify which tires actually came with the car.

I was told by Discount that Michelin warrants their tires own new vehicles. They warrantied mine.

 

[FZ1]

My sister has I think a '20 Rav4 Hybrid. She is on her 2nd set of CC2's. She replaced the first ones at about 4-5/32" because of winter traction issues. No prorate when replaced early. She didn't care as her positive dry/wet/snow experience over factory Michelin was enough to buy a new set of them. Her husband also has them now on his Tiguan R line.

She said she didn't lose any MPG/range that she could tell.

That said - hit up Tire Rack and watch the videos from their latest tests and go with what priorities you like. I'm torn between CC2, WeatherReady 2, Pirelli AS3, Conti DWS-06+ for My Accord next. Their testing with emergency lane change puts the Weatherready 2 ahead of the CC2 IMO. How long that holds performance over CC2 is another question. If only doing a "one" tire, no separate winter, I'd probably get an all weather version.

Conti CrossContact LX25 gets very good ratings and has for a long time including in light snow but is not 3PMSF

Go with the off road look and get Cooper Road+Trail. They seem very nice on father-in-laws Renegade. Soft ride, quiet.

Best touring tire.

All season road test

Check out the Defender 2's for your Accord. More quiet and comfortable than the Oem Michelin Energy Savers on my Camry. .02

 

[dtownfb]

Here's the road test from Tire Rack for premium crossover/CUV touring tires. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/whats-the-best-touring-tire-for-premium-cuvs?ttid=328

I have the Pirelli Scorpion AS 3 on my 2017 RDX. Excellent tire. I'm at 50k and should make it to 55k before I consider changing the tire. The only negative is it gets a little noisy around 40k miles.

But you have good choice on this list. I would look for rebates and installation savings.

 

[Sequoiasoon]

Check out the Defender 2's for your Accord. More quiet and comfortable than the Oem Michelin Energy Savers on my Camry. .02

I didn't like the test video and reviews for emergency lane change and wet handling. Some people I know have them with mixed reviews from them on ride quality, noise. One returned after a short time and got the CC2's instead and was happier.

Are they a bad choice, no, but it depends what you expect from a tire in your own use. My Pirelli P7 AS+2 have been great for me from ride/noise/wet and smooth trips. I'll give up some tread life for some better characteristics. I don't worry about winter as I run full winter.

 

[Rand]

I was told by Discount that Michelin warrants their tires own new vehicles. They warrantied mine.

There is a defect and worksmanship warranty. AFAIK there is no treadlife warranty. (pro-rated or not)
https://assets.sia.toyota.com/publications/en/omms-s/TL-MMS-20Tire/pdf/TL-MMS-20Tire.pdf
page 118

 

[FZ1]

I didn't like the test video and reviews for emergency lane change and wet handling. Some people I know have them with mixed reviews from them on ride quality, noise. One returned after a short time and got the CC2's instead and was happier.

Are they a bad choice, no, but it depends what you expect from a tire in your own use. My Pirelli P7 AS+2 have been great for me from ride/noise/wet and smooth trips. I'll give up some tread life for some better characteristics. I don't worry about winter as I run full winter.

Heck, I guess I shoudda got the Pirelli's Lol. I wanted quiet, smooth, and a longer tread life. So far.so good. 3,000 miles in. I checked Tire rack reviews before selecting.

 

[FZ1]

there is no pro rated credit on original tires that come on new car.
Although @THORROMIG doesn't actually specify which tires actually came with the car.

I guess Discount Tire didn't get the memo 'cause they pro rated mine. This was several years ago. DT said only Michelin and Goodyear would warrant Oem tires at that time.

 

[MParr]

Tire Rack rates the Yokohama Geolander CV G058 pretty good.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/yokohama-geolandar-cv-g058

 

[meep]

@THORROMIG I’m going to assume you have the 225/60-r18 tire size? There’s a lot offered there. Also, if the current Michelins feel little soft to you at near-speed limit speeds on the backroads, and you see some snow, that narrows things down a bit. This is a fun exercise. BTW we have the exact same vehicle in a 24, so I’m familiar with the SUV. Ours came with oem dunlops, which at half tread now have been surprising good tires.

Michelin CC2 is the easy grab - BUT it has a couple of things against it. It is not loud, but it’s not silent either. Its snow ability is pretty darn good however, so it’s worth considering. But it has another thing against it, which is that it does sacrifice some lateral grip. Whether you’ll reach that in an SUV or not I don’t know, but the limits were pretty easy to achieve in a RWD sedan in tight corners if you pushed it just to the edge of what could be “reasonable aggressive” driving. Driving a FWD hard into a corner with these is probably a quick recipe for understeer. Still a very driveable tire, and certainly more firm than the OEM Primacy tires which came on my truck, a fear the slightly elevated noise of the CC2 would be a primary drawback for the Rav4H.

Tirerack is listing a sneak attack of the Yokohama Geolandar CV 4S especially in the cold stuff. I do like Yokohama tires as long as they are the upper models. They always seem to balance well and hold their balance. Tirerack reviews this tire very well, as do the user surveys. It’s one notch ahead of the CC2.

Pirelli has a couple, and I’d like to try a set some day. However, the general bitog consensus and tirerack survey consensus is that Pirellis are great for the first half of their treadlife, and then come apart at the halfway mark either in balance, cupping, noise, or rain performance, depending on the tire.

I’ve not owned a set, but the Vredstein Quatrac Pro+ gets stellar ratings as well. I don’t ever recall reading a mediocre review on a Vredstein tire. Someone above mentioned it as well.

 

[funflyer]

I went with the General Altimax RT43 on my last hybrid and was very impressed. Only had them for about 25K before selling the car but liked them so much that when my Rav4 hybrid needs tires I'm going to give the RT45 a go.


https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...el=RAV4 Hybrid&autoModClar=XSE#RatingsReviews