Lots of positives to being sober one of which is keeping yourself off the radar of the local police. Based on some of the other threads you've created.
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satin, I live in a high crime area of Chicago. Thankfully, the police concentrate on real crime.
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
satin, I live in a high crime area of Chicago. Thankfully, the police concentrate on real crime.
And there it is, the crux of my problem with this thread. You continue to not take serious the possible outcome of drinking and driving. Drinking and driving is just a serious of a crime as other crimes and is basically attempted murder in some sense. For the sake of other people's lives I hope you get sober because it is them that you will hurt at some point. Even your original post said you drove drunk hundreds of times. Why you are not behind bars for this just amazes me and is a sad commentary on our society. Sorry to be blunt but your attitude hasn't changed from the last thread you had on this topic.
Great to get sober but personal responsibility is just as important.
satin, I live in a high crime area of Chicago. Thankfully, the police concentrate on real crime.
And there it is, the crux of my problem with this thread. You continue to not take serious the possible outcome of drinking and driving. Drinking and driving is just a serious of a crime as other crimes and is basically attempted murder in some sense. For the sake of other people's lives I hope you get sober because it is them that you will hurt at some point. Even your original post said you drove drunk hundreds of times. Why you are not behind bars for this just amazes me and is a sad commentary on our society. Sorry to be blunt but your attitude hasn't changed from the last thread you had on this topic.
Great to get sober but personal responsibility is just as important.
Nate, I don't care about others on the road. I suppose I'm a menace on the roads? A guy I use to work with has 5 DUI's and still drives. 'Been driving for 30+ years and I been in only 2 accidents.
Drinking too much is an easy thing to get into. It's not really that expensive and always available. I was a huge weekend beer drinker from my late teens to about age 30. Every Friday pick up a case and have 12 on Friday night and 12 on Saturday. Depending on what was going on it might have been a lot more. But the standard was a 24 pack every weekend. Wouldn't touch a drop Sunday through Thursday but when Friday evening hit, it was like someone flipped a switch on my back to drinking mode. Going out and partying was the "norm" for those years. College football season was probably when I'd consume the most. One just went with the other. Couldn't watch a game without beer dumping down my throat.
Around the time my wife and I had our first child I was already slowing down. My body just couldn't handle the day after anymore like it once could. I'd been able to party until 2am and then get up and function the next day. but, around age 30 the day after drinking was really wearing on me. I hated feeling like [censored] for half a day and realized it wasn't worth it. Also, having kids woke me up quite a bit too. Being more responsible suddenly became a major priority.
Although I will still drink a couple beers and have the occasional mixed drink it's nothing like what I used to consume in a weekend. Some weekends I drink nothing. I've found that having other things to focus on helps remove the urge to drink. If you can change up your 'routine' it can help, at least for me it did. For me making sure I spend time with my kids and being there for them is now my "norm". I also exercise on a regular basis so I feel like by drinking alcohol (in excess) I'm kind of cheating myself out of all the hard work I put in during the week.
It can be tough to figure out what it is exactly that drives someone to drink too much and too often. Trying different hobbies or hanging out with different people might help. I'm sure AA is a giant step in the right direction.
Around the time my wife and I had our first child I was already slowing down. My body just couldn't handle the day after anymore like it once could. I'd been able to party until 2am and then get up and function the next day. but, around age 30 the day after drinking was really wearing on me. I hated feeling like [censored] for half a day and realized it wasn't worth it. Also, having kids woke me up quite a bit too. Being more responsible suddenly became a major priority.
Although I will still drink a couple beers and have the occasional mixed drink it's nothing like what I used to consume in a weekend. Some weekends I drink nothing. I've found that having other things to focus on helps remove the urge to drink. If you can change up your 'routine' it can help, at least for me it did. For me making sure I spend time with my kids and being there for them is now my "norm". I also exercise on a regular basis so I feel like by drinking alcohol (in excess) I'm kind of cheating myself out of all the hard work I put in during the week.
It can be tough to figure out what it is exactly that drives someone to drink too much and too often. Trying different hobbies or hanging out with different people might help. I'm sure AA is a giant step in the right direction.
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
So I've been sober close to 30 days. I seemed to rub some people the wrong way here. I am the type who needs to abstain from alcohol. The drinking AND driving go hand in hand with me. Out of the hundreds of times I drove inebriated, I was caught twice. I've attended some AA meetings & feel at home. It's a place I'm not judged. I hope other in my situation will respond.
It's important to understand addiction in the brain. Reinforce pathways in your brain (feed the good wolf) and the addiction pathways will weaken (starve bad wolf). Remember that your brain will freak out and do anything to convince you to give up or slip up. The old addiction pathways will never completely go away but by reinforcing good habits and starving the old you will be taking advantage of the plasticity of your brain.
Best of luck to you.
So I've been sober close to 30 days. I seemed to rub some people the wrong way here. I am the type who needs to abstain from alcohol. The drinking AND driving go hand in hand with me. Out of the hundreds of times I drove inebriated, I was caught twice. I've attended some AA meetings & feel at home. It's a place I'm not judged. I hope other in my situation will respond.
It's important to understand addiction in the brain. Reinforce pathways in your brain (feed the good wolf) and the addiction pathways will weaken (starve bad wolf). Remember that your brain will freak out and do anything to convince you to give up or slip up. The old addiction pathways will never completely go away but by reinforcing good habits and starving the old you will be taking advantage of the plasticity of your brain.
Best of luck to you.
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Originally Posted By: turtlevette
..I used to work with high voltage linemen that would do that kind of drinking and function perfectly..
Stupid is as stupid does. Not calling you stupid, Mr. 'Vette.
I'm a tradesman with my own business.
I fire anyone working under the influence of alcohol or illegal drugs on my job sites immediately
then have them escorted off the property by sworn and armed LEOs.
I've seen living idiots become dead construction workers from doing stupid things.
I've pushed electricians away from hot wires with a ~2x4x10 when they got some juice (not booze) running through 'em.
Where was the shop steward to report the drunken idiot lineman? Not my problem but that's [censored] up.
Life is short enough without tempting fate.
There's the world the way we think it should be. Then there's the real world. You can't tell these guys are drinking unless you see them. They all do it. Is a young engineer going to come in and turn them all in? The supervisor just laughs in your face.
All these people at restaurants having cocktails. They all have a driver? You see everyone at the table drinking. Who's driving?
Just real world stuff.
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
..I used to work with high voltage linemen that would do that kind of drinking and function perfectly..
Stupid is as stupid does. Not calling you stupid, Mr. 'Vette.
I'm a tradesman with my own business.
I fire anyone working under the influence of alcohol or illegal drugs on my job sites immediately
then have them escorted off the property by sworn and armed LEOs.
I've seen living idiots become dead construction workers from doing stupid things.
I've pushed electricians away from hot wires with a ~2x4x10 when they got some juice (not booze) running through 'em.
Where was the shop steward to report the drunken idiot lineman? Not my problem but that's [censored] up.
Life is short enough without tempting fate.
There's the world the way we think it should be. Then there's the real world. You can't tell these guys are drinking unless you see them. They all do it. Is a young engineer going to come in and turn them all in? The supervisor just laughs in your face.
All these people at restaurants having cocktails. They all have a driver? You see everyone at the table drinking. Who's driving?
Just real world stuff.
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There's the world the way we think it should be. Then there's the real world. You can't tell these guys are drinking unless you see them. They all do it. Is a young engineer going to come in and turn them all in? The supervisor just laughs in your face.
All these people at restaurants having cocktails. They all have a driver? You see everyone at the table drinking. Who's driving?
Just real world stuff.
Turtle, I agree and experienced the same in the real world. It's PC now to be VERY anti-drunk driving. I was drinking a 12+ of cold one a day. At .08 BAC, I could function very, very well. When I fell off the fork lift at work I was almost a .30, I think. I think it's too tempting to sell ice cold beer at convenience stores and gas stations.
All these people at restaurants having cocktails. They all have a driver? You see everyone at the table drinking. Who's driving?
Just real world stuff.
Turtle, I agree and experienced the same in the real world. It's PC now to be VERY anti-drunk driving. I was drinking a 12+ of cold one a day. At .08 BAC, I could function very, very well. When I fell off the fork lift at work I was almost a .30, I think. I think it's too tempting to sell ice cold beer at convenience stores and gas stations.
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Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
Nate, I don't care about others on the road. I suppose I'm a menace on the roads? A guy I use to work with has 5 DUI's and still drives. 'Been driving for 30+ years and I been in only 2 accidents.
You don't care about others on the road? What if your car swerved 1 pot into oncoming traffic and your grandmother was driving right there, or your best friend, or your daughter, or one of your siblings? What if they forgot to put on their seatbelt and they died or their car got wrapped around a telephone pole because they swerved away from you?
How can someone just say so easily they don't care about other people on the road? What if an innocent little 5 year old girl hit her head on the window in a car accident that you caused and she was paralyzed.
You're a heartless piece of [censored] if you think that's ok.
I still do hope you continue with your sobriety. Good luck.
Nate, I don't care about others on the road. I suppose I'm a menace on the roads? A guy I use to work with has 5 DUI's and still drives. 'Been driving for 30+ years and I been in only 2 accidents.
You don't care about others on the road? What if your car swerved 1 pot into oncoming traffic and your grandmother was driving right there, or your best friend, or your daughter, or one of your siblings? What if they forgot to put on their seatbelt and they died or their car got wrapped around a telephone pole because they swerved away from you?
How can someone just say so easily they don't care about other people on the road? What if an innocent little 5 year old girl hit her head on the window in a car accident that you caused and she was paralyzed.
You're a heartless piece of [censored] if you think that's ok.
I still do hope you continue with your sobriety. Good luck.
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
Nate, I don't care about others on the road. I suppose I'm a menace on the roads? A guy I use to work with has 5 DUI's and still drives. 'Been driving for 30+ years and I been in only 2 accidents.
What does your wife say about your alcoholism ?
Nate, I don't care about others on the road. I suppose I'm a menace on the roads? A guy I use to work with has 5 DUI's and still drives. 'Been driving for 30+ years and I been in only 2 accidents.
What does your wife say about your alcoholism ?
Nick, I use to get off at 11pm and hit the bar. There are no little kids or grandmothers on the road at 2AM. Just cops and tipsy drivers. You talk about drunk driving like it's a capital offense. Judging me really doesn't help. Lecturing me doesn't help. After 2 Dui's the State revoked my license for more than 1 year!! Of course, I continued driving anyways.
My wife divorced me 'bout 5 years ago.
Wow,
I do wish you the very best of luck in continuing your journey to sobriety - truly I do.
I do wish you the very best of luck in continuing your journey to sobriety - truly I do.
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I'm retired after many years working for IL Department Of Corrections. I drank on lunch break, before work and after work. I received my first DUI while I was driving home. No "professional courtesy" given. I dealt with real criminals doing 50+year sentences..I supervised over 100 convicted felons at a time. Narcotics and gun violence are destroying urban areas! Comparing a drunk driver to a murderer is insulting.
Spend time reading the bible..... not getting drunk and getting behind the wheel.
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
Comparing a drunk driver to a murderer is insulting.
Corrections worker is a very stressful and thankless job. Use any support the system has to recover yourself.
A murderer picks out his target.
A drunk driver kills at random.
God Bless you in your journey to healthy and peaceful life.
Comparing a drunk driver to a murderer is insulting.
Corrections worker is a very stressful and thankless job. Use any support the system has to recover yourself.
A murderer picks out his target.
A drunk driver kills at random.
God Bless you in your journey to healthy and peaceful life.
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This thread is starting to become judgemental, and multiple folks have complained.
Drunk driving is a serious issue, dead is dead, and even if its true that drunks kill fewer people than other criminals,it doesn't make the loss any less painful.
But we must wish this person support, the tools he needs to reasonably recover, and hope for the best.
Drunk driving is a serious issue, dead is dead, and even if its true that drunks kill fewer people than other criminals,it doesn't make the loss any less painful.
But we must wish this person support, the tools he needs to reasonably recover, and hope for the best.
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