Actual Tesla CyberTruck Towing Test in Cold Weather

[alarmguy]

Great video, cold weather, range limited but like the Model 3 the vehicle indicates it has much more range until it doesnt.
Its a truck for sure and why I dont agree with the "off roading" thread comparing it to a Subaru? Let's face it, can a Subaru tow 11,000 Lbs?

I think this is well balanced and he does cut Tesla some room for updating software over time.

 

[cptbarkey]

I am ok that he spent all that money answering a question that no serious person who wants to tow 11k would ask.

 

[alarmguy]

I am ok that he spent all that money answering a question that no serious person who wants to tow 11k would ask.

Actually its his friends truck. He owns a Rivian.

 

[97prizm]

Great video, cold weather, range limited but like the Model 3 the vehicle indicates it has much more range until it doesnt.
Its a truck for sure and why I dont agree with the "off roading" thread comparing it to a Subaru? Let's face it, can a Subaru tow 11,000 Lbs?

I think this is well balanced and he does cut Tesla some room for updating software over time.

On one of the (maybe the only) Cybertruck forums has several members who are stating that aren't getting anywhere near the 350 miles on a charge. Closer to 256 miles on a charge and I think that was a guy who ran it from 100% to dead. I just don't understand Tesla goobers. Wouldn't you take it back and want a full refund? There's no software update that will fix a 70 mile shortcoming.

 

[UncleDave]

I like this reviewer.

 

[UncleDave]

On one of the (maybe the only) Cybertruck forums has several members who are stating that aren't getting anywhere near the 350 miles on a charge. Closer to 256 miles on a charge and I think that was a guy who ran it from 100% to dead. I just don't understand Tesla goobers. Wouldn't you take it back and want a full refund? There's no software update that will fix a 70 mile shortcoming.

There's more strings on that 350 mile number than a box of tampax.

Thats on different wheels and tires, plus the bed pack thing and I still doubt it would get there unless part of the trip is driving down the side of the matterhorn.

The RWD version is supposed to get 250.

This thing is really just a big fast fun toy you have to simply want to justify it.

 

[97prizm]

There's more strings on that 350 mile number than a box of tampax.

Thats on different wheels and tires, plus the bed pack thing and I still doubt it would get there unless part of the trip is driving down the side of the matterhorn.

The RWD version is supposed to get 250.

This thing is really just a big fast fun toy you have to simply want to justify it.

No strings. There was a display sign that said 350 miles/charge was now stock. It would supposedly go 425 miles/charge if you forked over the $16k for the battery pack. Elon said this is the actual spec. Remember all of the Musketeers keep saying it has lrr tires to improve range hence why it can't go offroad.

 

[UncleDave]

No strings. There was a display sign that said 350 miles/charge was now stock. It would supposedly go 425 miles/charge if you forked over the $16k for the battery pack. Elon said this is the actual spec. Remember all of the Musketeers keep saying it has lrr tires to improve range hence why it can't go offroad.

I think we're saying the same thing for the most part.

The truck is an overpromise and under deliver.

 

[JHZR2]

No strings. There was a display sign that said 350 miles/charge was now stock. It would supposedly go 425 miles/charge if you forked over the $16k for the battery pack. Elon said this is the actual spec. Remember all of the Musketeers keep saying it has lrr tires to improve range hence why it can't go offroad.

Anyone with half a brain would recognize that YMMV and even things like EPA MPG numbers aren’t routinely met. And, that battery tech is immature and highly dependent on a huge number of factors.

If you bought an F150 or Tundra, expecting to get whatever dismal MPGs it gets, and then towed at max rating, would you expect to get EPA numbers?

I get it that there’s a lot of (1) unrelated hate for Musk because of his views not appropriate for here, and (2) general hate for EV and change. That lets folks from various camps talking about and often against these things. But a fair lens should be used. And a practical understanding of battery physics appreciated.

I wouldn’t take any claims from a pre-production prototype from any vendor as gospel.

But the hate for musk comes through plainly here.

 

[dishdude]

This thing is really just a big fast fun toy you have to simply want to justify it.

Spot on, nothing but a "look at me" vehicle.

 

[burbguy82]

I think the truck is cool. Real world R&D is the best way to improve. They should have started with trucks and not small cars. You can fit way more battery on a truck chassis.

 

[burbguy82]

If you bought an F150 or Tundra, expecting to get whatever dismal MPGs it gets, and then towed at max rating, would you expect to get EPA numbers?

Very fair statement.

The expectation that the EV should be congruent to the ICE is way out of the spectrum of fairness. On my HD gasser, I get about a 20%-30% decrease in range, not 75%+ like EV

One thing that EV is superior for is power. Torque is constant at all RPM ranges. The ICE crew leaves this out conveniently.

If they would have started with trucks, and got it close to perfect, cars would be a easy mark to hit.

I wonder what the MPG an EV gets?

 

[alarmguy]

The expectation that the EV should be congruent to the ICE is way out of the spectrum of fairness. On my HD gasser, I get about a 20%-30% decrease in range, not 75%+ like EV

Exactly, this is just fact. The EV in the video only could safely travel around 80 miles on a full charge in not even really cold temperatures of 32F They really sweated out the last remaining miles.
My Chevy Traverse losses about 5/6 MPG towing at 82 MPH from its norm at that speed of approx 20/21 MPG

It's also fact that the EPA has recently updated requirements on EV mileage claims with Tesla being the worst offended. Once can to their own searches. Here is one from Korea.

https://electrek.co/2023/07/27/tesla-vastly-overstates-its-vehicles-range-report-states/

Hey, I don't take sides even though some think I do. I am just for honesty and Tesla? HA!
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-batteries-range/

Your post about the ICE crew leaving the power of EVs out is not true. The video CLEARLY states the power of the EV trucks is amazing.

 

[UncleDave]

All the tesla range rating are EPA 5 cycle, so unless ones usage mimics that , you'll never hit the rated range.

This is highway mixed with slow speed, plus stop and go ac on and off.

"Range" to me (and bitog at large) is 100% highway at (or above) the posted limit with AC/ HVAC on.

 

[97prizm]

Great video, cold weather, range limited but like the Model 3 the vehicle indicates it has much more range until it doesnt.
Its a truck for sure and why I dont agree with the "off roading" thread comparing it to a Subaru? Let's face it, can a Subaru tow 11,000 Lbs?

I think this is well balanced and he does cut Tesla some room for updating software over time.

Anyone with half a brain would recognize that YMMV and even things like EPA MPG numbers aren’t routinely met. And, that battery tech is immature and highly dependent on a huge number of factors.

If you bought an F150 or Tundra, expecting to get whatever dismal MPGs it gets, and then towed at max rating, would you expect to get EPA numbers?

I get it that there’s a lot of (1) unrelated hate for Musk because of his views not appropriate for here, and (2) general hate for EV and change. That lets folks from various camps talking about and often against these things. But a fair lens should be used. And a practical understanding of battery physics appreciated.

I wouldn’t take any claims from a pre-production prototype from any vendor as gospel.

But the hate for musk comes through plainly here.

Anyone with half a brain would recognize that YMMV and even things like EPA MPG numbers aren’t routinely met. And, that battery tech is immature and highly dependent on a huge number of factors.

If you bought an F150 or Tundra, expecting to get whatever dismal MPGs it gets, and then towed at max rating, would you expect to get EPA numbers?

I get it that there’s a lot of (1) unrelated hate for Musk because of his views not appropriate for here, and (2) general hate for EV and change. That lets folks from various camps talking about and often against these things. But a fair lens should be used. And a practical understanding of battery physics appreciated.

I wouldn’t take any claims from a pre-production prototype from any vendor as gospel.

But the hate for musk comes through plainly here.

It's not that there's alot of hate against Musk but he's the only automotive ceo that I'm aware of that blatantly makes up facts and figures. The Muskrats just eat up anything that he says it's gospel to them because Elon said so. He flat out lied about the performance specs of the cybertruck. Tesla engineers had to have known what the actual real world range was MONTHS before the release in November 2023. Elon has claimed Tesla is "almost there with fully autonomous vehicles " for eleven years. Tesla engineers have repeatedly told him to stop saying this, and that Tesla is realistically 10-15 years out minimum. You harped that comparing a $120,000 cybertruck to a Subaru crosstrek and Toyota 4 runner wasn't fair on a simple gravel offroad trail. Yet according to some "the software wasn't optimized ". Did all of Teslas software engineers not ever drive offroad? Was this not discussed in meetings? My gripe is that Musketeers defend the Yutz at every turn. Name another ceo who has blatantly made up or overstated product capabilities recently.

 

[97prizm]

All the tesla range rating are EPA 5 cycle, so unless ones usage mimics that , you'll never hit the rated range.

This is highway mixed with slow speed, plus stop and go ac on and off.

"Range" to me (and bitog at large) is 100% highway at (or above) the posted limit with AC/ HVAC on.

If the guy in the video drove the speed limit the entire time he wouldn't have made it to the supercharger. He drove incredibly slow the last few miles to eek out every last bit of range.

 

[alarmguy]

...You harped that comparing a $120,000 cybertruck to a Subaru crosstrek and Toyota 4 runner wasn't fair on a simple gravel offroad trail. Yet according to some "the software wasn't optimized ". Did all of Teslas software engineers not ever drive offroad? Was this not discussed in meetings? My gripe is that Musketeers defend the Yutz at every turn. Name another ceo who has blatantly made up or overstated product capabilities recently.

Ummmm... Im not so sure that was me harping. I was questioning an anti Tesla post pitting LIGHT WEIGHT (not yelling*LOL*) vehicles against a tank like a Tesla Truck designed to tow ELEVEN THOUSAND POUNDS.

I did say that is not fair, why wasnt a tow test done to see if the Subaru or Toyota could tow 11,000 lbs in that case?
I said those two vehicles would most likely lose their drivetrain if they tried. So why was two different class of vehicles compared, instead of like vehicles from Ford and Rivian?

Get my point? They are two completely different class of vehicles, anything that can tow 11,000 lbs is not going to be as light footed as a light weight vehicle that can tow less than HALF that. Toyota 5000 Lbs and Subaru 3,500 lbs with only the most top of the line model with the Wilderness package and without that package the tow rating is only 1,500 LBS.

 

[UncleDave]

If the guy in the video drove the speed limit the entire time he wouldn't have made it to the supercharger. He drove incredibly slow the last few miles to eek out every last bit of range.

I'm not disagreeing with that.

That has nothing to do with the range rating the EPA gave the truck. (Tesla doesn't give the rating the EPA does)

 

[andyd]

How does the truck handle and stop with 11,000 lbs on a trailer?

 

[alarmguy]

How does the truck handle and stop with 11,000 lbs on a trailer?

Watch the video, very impressive. Also this guy was experienced with that trailer, used it with the Ford EV and Rivian. Watch the video, it was well done and balanced.