Absolutely great story- Elon not being held hostage and accepting fear from IT professionals

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Mainia said:
Isn't this kind of how Steve Jobs was too? But I think Jobs was more of an ass. Elon was "more loved" years ago. But because the "Overton Window moved" and Elon "views"stayed close to the the same, I question some of the hate pushed his way is politically motivated.
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Certain types fear people like Elon, Jobs and others like them. They are deadly afraid those will expose them forriding the backs of othes and taking credit or for what they do not know or what they have stolen (ideas , etc...).
 
Mainia said:
Isn't this kind of how Steve Jobs was too? But I think Jobs was more of an ass. Elon was "more loved" years ago. But because the "Overton Window moved" and Elon "views"stayed close to the the same, I question some of the hate pushed his way is politically motivated.
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I have heard stories about Jobs being hard to work for but I don’t know if it was in the same manner as Musk. Jobs required perfection and loyalty.

When he was working on the original iPod he went to Japan to visit a metal polishing company. I remember watching this on NHK. Their main job was polishing silverware. Jobs had seen their work and noticed that their polishing produced a perfect mirror finish. That is what he wanted for the back of the iPod. The company owner agreed but when Jobs told him how many he needed the owner got nervous. This was a simple company and the owner and family lived there too.

Somehow it all worked out. More machines, more workers and soon that company was polishing around 20,000 backs every day. All by hand using various buffing wheels.
 
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SammyChevelleTypeS3 said:
Exactly. Plus He who really needs their job will not even whisper the truth!?! Those type owners can belittle/demote/chastise + fire victims like a simple bodily function.
I do agree with what set him off. Managers who have too many layers under them to accomplish much in timely fashion. But it is totally ELON's responsibility to correct those things. Maybe he has not had time to evaluate who is working & who is just drawing a salary.
Still its all on him and he has plenty $$$$ to survive his own stupid mistakes.
There are some things I like about the guy but for the life of me I can not understand why he would want to be in a business like the
much argued & fought over EV business? So many other inovations he could be into. I wish he was focused on alternative energies. I really feel at some point soon , someone like an Elon will shock us all and develop another form of energy we have all over looked. I hope.
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Sammy,

The next mega billionaire will be a person who figures out how to drastically cut the cost out of IT. And I mean really cut the cost out of IT, like reduce a company like GMs annually overall IT costs by 90 percent. Make IT a simple and basic commodity. Who figures that out will be much wealthier than Elon Musk.
 
GON said:
N35,

That is a great read- love it!! Thanks for the posting of the link...

Two of many fantastic paragraphs from the review:

The absolute worst thing that someone can do [at SpaceX] is inform Musk that what he’s asking is impossible. An employee could be telling Musk that there’s no way to get the cost on something like that actuator down to where he wants it or that there is simply not enough time to build a part by Musk’s deadline. “Elon will say, fine. You’re off the project, and I am now the CEO of the project. I will do your job and be CEO of two companies at the same time. I will deliver it,”’ Brogan said. “What’s crazy is that Elon actually does it. Every time he’s fired someone and taken their job, he’s delivered on whatever the project was.”
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It is actually fine if you do not consider how 9 months worth of salary turn into 120k of part you buy just once. It is actually not something that difficult to do if you are willing to take the risk. Legacy aerospace has a lot of pork so they can afford to keep people around just in case there's no work, or when the "customers" demand something that is just ridiculous because of politics or because they have political pressure (i.e. changing spec means testing and testing cost money). When someone does it in-house they don't need spec if they are the one taking the consequences.

To me this is how efficiency happens on individual > small companies > big companies > small government > large government in capitalism > communism > religious org. Elon can afford the consequence himself and has no voters or politicians to answer to, don't have to build something in every state to keep the politician's mouth shut, etc. If he blew up a rocket because he cut corner (i.e. his launch pad blew up), that's fine.

Adding a bunch of custom duct taped project together will save you a lot of money, but will also increase the risk by quite a bit.
 
PimTac said:
I have heard stories about Jobs being hard to work for but I don’t know if it was in the same manner as Musk. Jobs required perfection and loyalty.

When he was working on the original iPod he went to Japan to visit a metal polishing company. I remember watching this on NHK. Their main job was polishing silverware. Jobs had seen their work and noticed that their polishing produced a perfect mirror finish. That is what he wanted for the back of the iPod. The company owner agreed but when Jobs told him how many he needed the owner got nervous. This was a simple company and the owner and family lived there too.

Somehow it all worked out. More machines, more workers and soon that company was polishing around 20,000 backs every day. All by hand using various buffing wheels.
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Perfection is the culture inside Apple. I've never worked in a company that repaint its office interior every month to make sure things are perfect, so people don't get used to being sloppy. Having employee being a specialist in ONE area across all products, sending him to the factory to make sure if something isn't right he is there within 30 mins (otherwise he'll just be drinking coffee waiting for things to happen). It doesn't happen with typical companies.

One video I saw that's makes what Apple is today:

 
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PimTac said:
I have heard stories about Jobs being hard to work for but I don’t know if it was in the same manner as Musk. Jobs required perfection and loyalty.

When he was working on the original iPod he went to Japan to visit a metal polishing company. I remember watching this on NHK. Their main job was polishing silverware. Jobs had seen their work and noticed that their polishing produced a perfect mirror finish. That is what he wanted for the back of the iPod. The company owner agreed but when Jobs told him how many he needed the owner got nervous. This was a simple company and the owner and family lived there too.

Somehow it all worked out. More machines, more workers and soon that company was polishing around 20,000 backs every day. All by hand using various buffing wheels.
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Effing waste as everybody bought cases because the things were too slippery to hold.
 
Can-do attitude is also what shaped and crafted empires. Alexander the Great rode off with his men into the unknown and emerged victorious. Today you have full grown men sipping soy lattes running organizations and governments without a single clue of how things really work.
 
GON said:
Sammy,

The next mega billionaire will be a person who figures out how to drastically cut the cost out of IT. And I mean really cut the cost out of IT, like reduce a company like GMs annually overall IT costs by 90 percent. Make IT a simple and basic commodity. Who figures that out will be much wealthier than Elon Musk.
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My career was in IT, primarily in ERP and large scale custom business solution programming.
IMO, the biggest impediment to real progress is fear. CIOs and decision makers choose what they are familiar with. It is better to choose "the enemy you know" kinda thing.

Progress requires change, by definition. I have mentioned before Tesla's Project Warp Speed. This is an example of what can be done if you have the cajones to do so.

In my career, I got a huge break. I was asked to code a custom forecast application to drive a Semiconductor Manufacturing Equipment company. I used the Visual Studio - SQL Server solution platform. Let's just say it worked and I was given the Golden Handcuffs.

It very much can be done.
 
Why is it no other news reporting agency ever do their own investigation or reporting except for NBC. Smells fishy
 
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Our IT department is absolutely horrible... I've learned over 12 years how to circumvent them and every dumb policy they pull out of their pocket. That's why I've been fairly successful in my position. If I had to wait for approval and them to do anything nothing would get done! For example I have the 4th arb meeting in a couple weeks. Their not bright enough to realize we've already discussed this and and it's been recorded each time. I'm not going to very friendly this time. Tired of their wastefulness!
 
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