Any remedy for this? I have a set of aftermarket wheels with the same issue on my 2022 Acura. The stock wheels and tires are smooth at all speeds so it’s not the car!
A question about wheel/tire balancing
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Yup and yup. I have metal hub rings and correct lug nuts.
As above, if you don't have hub rings, check those out.
If you have them or don't need them, try finding a Hunter GSP9700 or the like and have the tires and wheels Road Forced. Hunter: Road Force Balancers
I have hub rings and this is the 3rd time they have been balanced. Every time the tire tech says the wheels are not bent, tires look like they are true, you should be good to go. The last time I had them balanced I asked for a road force balance at discount tire and they supposedly did that and I should be all good. It’s better but still there and I think I need to find someone that can balance a wheel with a brain instead of just relying on a machine to say OK. It’s wild to me that every time I get these wheels balance the amount of weight and the placement varies greatly.
I want to start another thread and talk about balancing wheels and tires with some of you guys the whole situation always interested me to achieve the best balance and keep the weights to a minimum
What you need to do is get the Road Force values. Most tire busters aren't very sophisticated and don't understand what those numbers mean. All they know - if they know anything at all - is that the machine passed the assembly. The presets for these machines are pretty high.
Tell them that you want the tire and wheel values separately. Watch them as they do it. If they don't know how to get the separate values, have it done by someone who does know.
If this next time, you don't get the problem solved, report back here on what they actually did during the process. I'll try to help you diagnose it.
Discount tire shops have “road force balance” machines but they never make an effort to actually REDUCE road force. They just spin balance and send you on your way.
What they should do …is measure run out on the wheel, then measure run out on the mounted tire. Last…break the bead and move the tire to place lowest area or the wheel with the highest area of the tire. This can greatly reduce road force and vibration.
Yeah….. Trying to find someone to do that is almost impossible. I went to belle tire the 2nd time and I asked for a road force balance. They came up with these road force numbers, said that they didn’t want to rotate the tire on the wheel because they don’t want to risk scratching the wheels and that the predicted road force numbers would only drop a couple pounds.
LF 23
RF 30
LR 41
RR 4
LF 23
RF 30
LR 41
RR 4
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Well, at least we know which one is the problem and based on their comments that they kind of know they can't fix it.
So your best bet is to pair up the 41 and the 30 on the rear and live with it until its time for new tires.
Or they just don’t want to attempt.
The machine makes a prediction and it's usually pretty good. The fact that they know that was an indication they know how this works and they know they can't fix it.
Also what was questionable was that fact that I asked if I needed a new tire or what they thought the solution would be to at least fix the one that has the highest road force. The response was “I don’t know.”
I went to a local old school mom and pop tires shop and explained everything to them. The old man was very nice and said I’m gonna look at it and see if it’s the wheel or the tire. He checked the right rear because that the one I swear I’m having issues with. The rim was perfect. The tire has a little hop to it. He said replace the tire if I want to keep going at this
