"Tell" Iran where we will start the ground invasion.
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Interesting that with your "bona fides" you can't see that there is, in fact, air dominance over Iran. That doesn't mean you can't lose aircraft. War is dangerous.
The loss rate (losses/number of sorties) is shockingly low, given the Iranian investment in air defense over the decades, and given that not a single pilot has been killed (thank God). Much lower than even optimists would have expected.
So I'd say the current leadership, like them or not, even with the propensity for hyperbole, has painted a fairly accurate picture.
My bona fides include being a student of air warfare History and multiple national championships as an armchair quarterback.
Yep. At a cost of over $200 million dollars.
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They are confused as much as everyone else.
It's a war. Stuff happens. You can't really blame the loss of the two special op MC-130s on the op, it just happened. I suspect procedures about landing in unknown ground conditions will change.
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I mean, is there a set pricing on human life? But if we just look ROI, the cost of training, message to the troops, morale, $200 million might be good investment.
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They were purposely destroyed to keep the onboard technology from falling into enemy hands.
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I am not so sure about that. When I say "everyone," I think of our military too.
Sure but how sustainable is it?
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If they keep shooting down airplanes every day, it is not. But that won't happen.
Very true, but they were stuck in soft sand and couldn't take off. That is why they had to be destroyed.
Sure.
I'm still surprised they lost two C-130J's and a MH-6.
Maybe that was the plan ?
Stuff happens. Our pilots are worth every effort we can make. That's part of why they are so courageous. They know the effort that will be made to rescue them if they have to bail out.
Besides, it's a bargain compared to the cost of empty daycare centers in a very cold state.
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I'd say even better. The alternative is about ten times that in humiliation and negociations, if it has to be put down to money. The long game is somewhere there are thousands if kids that just decided the US military IS where they want to be when they grow up, statistically at least some of them will make it there, and more statistically one of them will save your butt somewhere in the future while you're still running numbers.
But if you want to stay with numbers - the training alone of this guy is ballpark $15-20 million, his death will cost another few mil in pensions and such, the knowledge and training he'd have passed to other recruits that would be lost would be about the cost of what his training boiled down to, so, you're getting to 1/4 of 200 mil even before you discuss the blackmailing that would go with returning his body, and that's with him dead. If he gets captured alive - sky is the limit.
So all in all it's a deal of immesurable proportions. Israel coughed much more in prisoner exchanges for Gilad Shalit years ago, and doing all these concessions cost them a bunch in the long run.
I repeat - the Commander in Chief stated "They have no anti-aircraft equipment" and they subsequently shot down a couple of our planes and several others along with some helicopters were lost during the rescue missions. Hyperbole, or lying to the American public, you can decide for yourself what to call it.
Of course our forces have performed admirably and the statistical performance is great. I'm proud to have spent my career working to provide them with these capabilities. That doesn't mean we're achieving any clearly defined strategic objectives.
Next time I'm briefing a 3 or 4 star I'll be sure to note your skepticism of my bona fides lol.
The objective is and always has been to keep Iran from getting a nuke. Simple. If they weren't trying to get a nuke or were not close, there'd be no war.
But certainly if you are trying to make political points, you would pull that out. Of course, you did not need your "bona fides" or an original thought to get that. So you pull it right out of the talking points, just like all their talking heads have been saying all over the media today. My sister knows nothing of warfare, military history, or international affairs. Yet she somehow was throwing the same talking points much earlier in the day than you did. I think she got it on Blue Sky or something like that.
I'll help you out. The next round will have the word "unhinged" in it. I think it's getting ready to make the rounds again, so post it up and you'll be the first!
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