I'm looking for a conventional 5W20 that is high in moly to use in my 2010 Honda Civic.
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5W20 dino high in moly?
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http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresults3a.html
Check that out. You have a few choices, but it looks like Shell has the most.
Check that out. You have a few choices, but it looks like Shell has the most.
I dont see any 5w-20. 300 ppm is not High on any absolute scale. 10,000 ppm is 1 percent, 300 ppm would be .03%. This percentage of a gallon by volume would be .04 ounces (128*0.0003). This is equal to 1/4 teaspoon.
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To the OP, I apologize. I just noticed you're looking for conventional. That would rule Redline out.
I don't know about the availability in Canada, but Honda's 0w20 is roughly $6/quart US and can be ordered online, if needed.
Finding a conventional 5w20 with high moly content might prove to be difficult.
I don't know about the availability in Canada, but Honda's 0w20 is roughly $6/quart US and can be ordered online, if needed.
Finding a conventional 5w20 with high moly content might prove to be difficult.
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Originally Posted By: moviedave
http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresults3a.html
Check that out. You have a few choices, but it looks like Shell has the most.
That test is very interesting. SOPUS uses moly in Shell, but none in Pennzoil and QS. I wonder how different the 5W20 formulations would be? Looks like Formula Shell is a very good oil and it can be bought by the case at Costco here in Canada.
http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresults3a.html
Check that out. You have a few choices, but it looks like Shell has the most.
That test is very interesting. SOPUS uses moly in Shell, but none in Pennzoil and QS. I wonder how different the 5W20 formulations would be? Looks like Formula Shell is a very good oil and it can be bought by the case at Costco here in Canada.
You can always add a bit of moly, there are several oil additives that are high in it.
Formula Shell will be widely and easy available.
But you can still go to your Honda dealer and ask them about their 0w20 oil price.
From what I understand, it is mainly Grp 3 base stock, so not technically a synthetic.
Anyway, from what I understand, as conventional, you mean not too expensive?
Still worth at least to call the service department to know the price. Otherwise, Formula Shell is a good choice.
But you can still go to your Honda dealer and ask them about their 0w20 oil price.
From what I understand, it is mainly Grp 3 base stock, so not technically a synthetic.
Anyway, from what I understand, as conventional, you mean not too expensive?
Still worth at least to call the service department to know the price. Otherwise, Formula Shell is a good choice.
Havoline Deposit Shield is maybe not the highest in moly but it always turns in impressive results.
http://www.pqiamerica.com/testresults3a.html
Here's a link to actual testing of major brand oils.
I have settled on using Lubro Moly additive. [Lots of info and links in the oil additive section.]
Here's a link to actual testing of major brand oils.
I have settled on using Lubro Moly additive. [Lots of info and links in the oil additive section.]
I would use Havoline.
None of today's API SM oils are high in Moly (when I think of high moly, I think of Redline, and if you compare its moly count to anything tested on the PQI site you'll understand what I mean). This is what led me to buy Lubro Moly mos2 and add half a bottle to my crankcase now, and a quarter bottle into each future OC as a maintenance dose.
There is a VOA posted of it, and a couple lengthy discussions on it as well. Aside from boosting the moly count, it has no other effect on the properties of the oil. The amount used is also to small to have any effect on viscosity. You can buy it from Napa, and its inexpensive. If you want more moly, imho this is the way to go. Pick out the oil you like, then add a quantity of this stuff to up the moly count. Also worth reading the thread on it in the VOA section, and the other thread in the oil additives section.
-Spyder
There is a VOA posted of it, and a couple lengthy discussions on it as well. Aside from boosting the moly count, it has no other effect on the properties of the oil. The amount used is also to small to have any effect on viscosity. You can buy it from Napa, and its inexpensive. If you want more moly, imho this is the way to go. Pick out the oil you like, then add a quantity of this stuff to up the moly count. Also worth reading the thread on it in the VOA section, and the other thread in the oil additives section.
-Spyder
Originally Posted By: bigmike
Honda 0w20, Toyota 0w20, and Redline come to mind.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1980810/
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The last time I checked Honda's 0W-20 was $7.70/L and cheaper by the case.
Toyota's 0W-20 is the best moly deal I'm aware of at about 6 bucks/L and cheaper by the case. It's 25 bucks for a 5L jug.
Honda 0w20, Toyota 0w20, and Redline come to mind.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1980810/
+1
The last time I checked Honda's 0W-20 was $7.70/L and cheaper by the case.
Toyota's 0W-20 is the best moly deal I'm aware of at about 6 bucks/L and cheaper by the case. It's 25 bucks for a 5L jug.
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Originally Posted By: bigmike
Honda 0w20, Toyota 0w20, and Redline come to mind.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1980810/
+1
The last time I checked Honda's 0W-20 was $7.70/L and cheaper by the case.
Toyota's 0W-20 is the best moly deal I'm aware of at about 6 bucks/L and cheaper by the case. It's 25 bucks for a 5L jug.
I like the moly count in Redline - but its insanely expensive here (only available by the quart, at $13 per quart). I like everything about the PP oil I use, except for its low moly count. It was a very good deal, though, at $19 for a 4 & 1/2 quart jug. Adding the LM mos2 dose I settled on, worked out to roughly the same moly count as Redline contains (there's enough info in the VOA section for anyone inclined to work the math out), but at far less cost.
Prior to finding the LM mos2 threads I'd beenh toying with the idea of tossing in a quart of Redline just to up the moly count. Going the LM route proved to be cheaper though, and more effective in that the only property being changed is the moly count (and I have it at about the same level as if I had a sump full of Redline, with 2 maintenance doses for future OCs still left in the bottle).
Edit: of course anyone afraid of additives, or think they are all snake oil, or that whatever oil you buy is already blended to perfection and should not be touched in any way, can ignore the above. I'm not out to change, or debate, the subject with minds already made up.
-Spyder
Originally Posted By: bigmike
Honda 0w20, Toyota 0w20, and Redline come to mind.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1980810/
+1
The last time I checked Honda's 0W-20 was $7.70/L and cheaper by the case.
Toyota's 0W-20 is the best moly deal I'm aware of at about 6 bucks/L and cheaper by the case. It's 25 bucks for a 5L jug.
I like the moly count in Redline - but its insanely expensive here (only available by the quart, at $13 per quart). I like everything about the PP oil I use, except for its low moly count. It was a very good deal, though, at $19 for a 4 & 1/2 quart jug. Adding the LM mos2 dose I settled on, worked out to roughly the same moly count as Redline contains (there's enough info in the VOA section for anyone inclined to work the math out), but at far less cost.
Prior to finding the LM mos2 threads I'd beenh toying with the idea of tossing in a quart of Redline just to up the moly count. Going the LM route proved to be cheaper though, and more effective in that the only property being changed is the moly count (and I have it at about the same level as if I had a sump full of Redline, with 2 maintenance doses for future OCs still left in the bottle).
Edit: of course anyone afraid of additives, or think they are all snake oil, or that whatever oil you buy is already blended to perfection and should not be touched in any way, can ignore the above. I'm not out to change, or debate, the subject with minds already made up.
-Spyder
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