500+whp daily driver oil recommendations

[electrolover]

Originally Posted By: Unleashedbeast
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Redline 5w30.
Ester oil's are better at dealing with the effects of alcohol fuels.
It has the HTHS of a 40-weight, but the KV's of a 30-weight.
Flash point is unsurpassed by any oil that I have read about.
I know you said you wanted a locally-available oil, but since your car is so heavily modified and you're running on E85, I think you're in the realm of boutique oils.


I agree with this 100%.

OP, you are not going to find the level of protection required for your engine over the parts counter or Wal Mart. You need to step up to a boutique oil like Red Line, Amsoil, Motul 300V, etc...

True synthetics that are listed above will have superior shear resistance, much higher levels of ZDDP (primary anti-wear additive), and Red Line has very high levels of Moly. Convenience of buying local isn't an option for you IMO. Get on the internet and order the good stuff.



thats good advise but RL is very expensive, especially for short ocis.

 

[meep]

a lot depends on how you treat it daily.

500 whp is A LOT of pressure in the bearings, and in a 4-pot I'm guessing you will be crushing film strength and relying on extreme pressure additives.

That also equates to heat at temps that will destroy the oil in those bearings.

You gotta go syn for the track, no questions asked, and it would need to be a heavier weight with gentle warm-up. Certainly a syn HDEO.

Daily driving you can get away with more choices. any syn 10-30, 10-40. Maxlife 10-30 might be good since it is thicker in range. I would avoid any and all 0-weight oils.

Rob_FL: that's one of the ugliest posts I've ever seen on bitog. Assuming he's keeping his ego-adrenaline on the track and off the public roads, he came to to right place for oil questions.

(Mr. Peepers, I assume you ARE keeping your foot out of it on public roads where the rest of us drive)

M

 

[Unleashedbeast]

Originally Posted By: electrolover
Originally Posted By: Unleashedbeast
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Redline 5w30.
Ester oil's are better at dealing with the effects of alcohol fuels.
It has the HTHS of a 40-weight, but the KV's of a 30-weight.
Flash point is unsurpassed by any oil that I have read about.
I know you said you wanted a locally-available oil, but since your car is so heavily modified and you're running on E85, I think you're in the realm of boutique oils.


I agree with this 100%.

OP, you are not going to find the level of protection required for your engine over the parts counter or Wal Mart. You need to step up to a boutique oil like Red Line, Amsoil, Motul 300V, etc...

True synthetics that are listed above will have superior shear resistance, much higher levels of ZDDP (primary anti-wear additive), and Red Line has very high levels of Moly. Convenience of buying local isn't an option for you IMO. Get on the internet and order the good stuff.



thats good advise but RL is very expensive, especially for short ocis.


It's an acceptable insurance policy considering the money invested in his car. I don't recall if he mentioned how many miles he drives this car a year. A 2,000-3,000 mile OCI may take him 6 months to achieve, so that would minimize the cost of the added insurance.

 

[mechtech2]

Mobil 1 0w40. great for turbos

 

[Xstang]

Brad Penn SAE 50.

No Joke.

 

[electrolover]

Originally Posted By: meep
a lot depends on how you treat it daily.

500 whp is A LOT of pressure in the bearings, and in a 4-pot I'm guessing you will be crushing film strength and relying on extreme pressure additives.

That also equates to heat at temps that will destroy the oil in those bearings.

You gotta go syn for the track, no questions asked, and it would need to be a heavier weight with gentle warm-up. Certainly a syn HDEO.

Daily driving you can get away with more choices. any syn 10-30, 10-40. Maxlife 10-30 might be good since it is thicker in range. I would avoid any and all 0-weight oils.

Rob_FL: that's one of the ugliest posts I've ever seen on bitog. Assuming he's keeping his ego-adrenaline on the track and off the public roads, he came to to right place for oil questions.

(Mr. Peepers, I assume you ARE keeping your foot out of it on public roads where the rest of us drive)

M


speaking of 10/40s what about VR1 syn 10/40? i know alot of alky guys running Vr1 in their circle track cars (750 HP) and they are very happy with it

OP can you get VR1 locally? i think autozone stocks it

 

[MetalSlug]

Crank walk ^^

 

[electrolover]

Originally Posted By: MetalSlug
Crank walk ^^


are you saying VR1 will some how increase thrust bearing clearance and cause crank walk?

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: MetalSlug
Crank walk ^^

Reminded me of that picture.

 

[electrolover]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: MetalSlug
Crank walk ^^

Reminded me of that picture.



got any new pics of the 5.4 yet? dont leave us hangin man!

 

[Big_Kat]

Originally Posted By: sullytex
Mitsu Starion... AWESOME Car!!

Mitsubishi Starion


You are my new best friend!

 

[MrPeepers]

Thanks for all the replies! I'm really liking how helpful everyone is on here! It sees around 10k a year. I do get after it a little on the street, but it's a deserted country road with no one around. In town is a BAD idea. No tickets after the 5 years I've owned it(over 2 years after the stock refresh) and I'd like to keep it that way. I'd rather not be *that* a-hole.

I do have another daily driver Subaru, but I simply rather drive the Talon whenever possible. I really hate putting any money into it and you might be surprised how much is stock on it, and if not, from a junkyard or something I've fabricated. It's a hobby, just like oil for everyone here. This is what sparks my interest and in-turn makes me want to learn everything I can about it. I can't think of a better way to spend some spare change *shrug*

I snagged 5 quarts of Mobil 1 0w-40 at AAP for 26.50 today- couldn't pass it up. I will be looking into RL in the near future; I've been very impressed with their trans and gear oils.

aquariuscsm- They had fwd turbo and awd turbo models from '90 through '99

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: MetalSlug
Crank walk ^^

Reminded me of that picture.


THANKS A LOT OVERKILL!! Now I have to spend the next hour cleaning Snapple out of my keyboard, and off of my monitor.

I've never seen that one before (I guess I have not been on the domestic musclecar sites in too long a time??).

But, in all fairness and respect to the o.p., the problem was blown waaayyyy out of proportion by many, although it did happen to some.

 

[OVERKILL]

Yes, I have no real idea as to the scope of the issue either. I just recalled the funny picture

 

[Greg_Byer]

Originally Posted By: MrPeepers

I snagged 5 quarts of Mobil 1 0w-40 at AAP for 26.50 today- couldn't pass it up. I will be looking into RL in the near future; I've been very impressed with their trans and gear oils.

Sorry to dig this up, but I was just wondering if you planned on doing, or have done, a used oil analysis on the Mobil 1? Possibly any feedback regarding it's performance?

Reading a reply you made in my "6 Bolt Rod RPM" thread on the link boards it seems there are similarities between our vehicles and driving styles. Even though I'm a 7 bolt auto with lower horse power application at this point I will be a 6 bolt auto higher horse power application in the future.

Thanks for any information, Greg

 

[shpankey]

I agree w/ the Red Line 5w30. Though depending on how much you track or drag it, extend out the OCI to 4k & pull a sample and see what comes back on the report.

Once you feel that turbo spool quicker w/ the ester based Red Line you will never go back.