3-Row SUV for Midlife Crisis

[John105]

Dude...the ZR1 is a 1/2 million dollar car. No "ordinary well off person" is going to be disappointed, I assure you, lol!

I wasn’t aware! Our dealer said they placed an order and the buyer agreed to $186. She said they don’t and never have marked over list.

At any rate our owner got agitated over an iPad Pro where he got his 2 weeks before the new one came out (I was the one who had to return it). He had just gotten a brand new Lear 75 at the time. These folks do have emotions. Another example he couldn’t get the tee time he wanted at the 6th best course in the USA and was upset with his admin (my kid’s school is near that club). So a car is a large enough item to get disappointed over imho.

 

[John105]

You'd have to realllllly want one, to pay over 250k.

I got the chance to drive one, and wasn't all that impressed. I'm just not a fan of automatic transmissions in sportscars.

Me neither I’m no longer following 911 it’s not realistic. I assume a 7 manual is still available maybe up to the S models. If not that’s ok I can’t afford it anyway

Ps sad to say I’ve never driven a car more powerful than the E65 Alpina B7. That had to have been 17 years ago. Poor me!

 

[GSCJR]

@The Critic; Hyundai IONIQ 9.

 

[bmwlad24]

@The Critic; Hyundai IONIQ 9.

Good rec.

 

[Ws6]

I wasn’t aware! Our dealer said they placed an order and the buyer agreed to $186. She said they don’t and never have marked over list.

At any rate our owner got agitated over an iPad Pro where he got his 2 weeks before the new one came out (I was the one who had to return it). He had just gotten a brand new Lear 75 at the time. These folks do have emotions. Another example he couldn’t get the tee time he wanted at the 6th best course in the USA and was upset with his admin (my kid’s school is near that club). So a car is a large enough item to get disappointed over imho.

There are 1/4mil ADMs already on them.

 

[The Critic]

Found an older video from 2023 that compares many of the 3rd rows on the market today:



A lot of the info is still applicable and Alex is about the same size as me. It is pretty eye-opening how unusable some are.

@The Critic; Hyundai IONIQ 9.

Not in the market for a EV as the primary family vehicle.

 

[The Critic]

A decision has been made. The vehicle is getting picked up today.

 

[Astro14]

A decision has been made. The vehicle is getting picked up today.

Oh, man, don’t leave us all hanging!

Which one did she choose?

 

[rstcso]

Flying is much more efficient, even if it comes at a premium.

That's assuming there are no flight delays, which are becoming more common. Our daughter, trying to get home from Westchester County (NY) to Madison last month, didn't get home until 24 hours after scheduled. Her initial flight was delayed which caused her to miss the connecting flight. Spent the night in the airport, then got routed through Dallas. Once there, her connecting flight was canceled and it was 12 hours later before another flight took off.

A coworker had a similar experience the other day, where she could have drove in 8 hours and didn't get home until the next day.

My wife and I drive to our daughter's in Madison several times a year. It's 1200 miles door-to-door each way and we drive straight through, switching driving duties. It's more peaceful than sitting in an airport, chasing the planes from gate-to-gate. We have our regular places to stop to eat, and we know within an hour or so of when we'll arrive. We mostly control our own destiny.

 

[edyvw]

A decision has been made. The vehicle is getting picked up today.

Now I won't be able to sleep.

 

[4WD]

Like so many things these days - a leaker released this:

 

[02SE]

A decision has been made. The vehicle is getting picked up today.

So after nine pages of tease, you're not going to tell us what you bought???

 

[The Critic]

Oh, man, don’t leave us all hanging!

Which one did she choose?

Now I won't be able to sleep.

So after nine pages of tease, you're not going to tell us what you bought???

It wasn't my intention to leave all of you have hanging, but I got busy. Sorry.

We picked up a TX500h Luxury in Incognito. The 500h gives you an extra 91 hp and 92 lb-ft of torque over the non-hybrid TX350 without any fuel economy penalty. All of the extra power comes from the new single-motor, parallel hybrid system. With the TX500h, you also get rear steering, adaptive dampeners and 6 piston front calipers with 15.7" rotors.

With the 2nd row Captain Chairs configured for maximum 2nd row legroom, I am still able to comfortably fit into the 3rd row. I'm 5'11" without an athletic build. I cannot say the same about the MDX/GLS, but the only other competition would've been a minivan or full-size domestic SUV's for $20K more.

I had a ~400 mile drive home from the dealer. The handling is respectable and improved over the Grand Highlander and the TX350, but it won't impress @edyvw or any car enthusiast. I averaged a hand-calculated 24 mpg at "rural I-5 speeds" while varying RPM and having some fun. Overall, the wife is happy and I hope she stays happy with this car for a long time, as it wasn't cheap.

 

[4WD]

It wasn't my intention to leave all of you have hanging, but I got busy. Sorry.

We picked up a TX500h Luxury in Incognito. The 500h gives you an extra 91 hp and 92 lb-ft of torque over the non-hybrid TX350 without any fuel economy penalty. All of the extra power comes from the new single-motor, parallel hybrid system. With the TX500h, you also get rear steering, adaptive dampeners and 6 piston front calipers with 15.7" rotors.

With the 2nd row Captain Chairs configured for maximum 2nd row legroom, I am still able to comfortably fit into the 3rd row. I'm 5'11" without an athletic build. I cannot say the same about the MDX/GLS, but the only other competition would've been a minivan or full-size domestic SUV's for $20K more.

I had a ~400 mile drive home from the dealer. The handling is respectable and improved over the Grand Highlander and the TX350, but it won't impress @edyvw or any car enthusiast. I averaged a hand-calculated 24 mpg at "rural I-5 speeds" while varying RPM and having some fun. Overall, the wife is happy and I hope she stays happy with this car for a long time, as it wasn't cheap.

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Happy wife, happy life …

 

[crashz]

Nice ride and congratulations!

 

[OVERKILL]

It wasn't my intention to leave all of you have hanging, but I got busy. Sorry.

We picked up a TX500h Luxury in Incognito. The 500h gives you an extra 91 hp and 92 lb-ft of torque over the non-hybrid TX350 without any fuel economy penalty. All of the extra power comes from the new single-motor, parallel hybrid system. With the TX500h, you also get rear steering, adaptive dampeners and 6 piston front calipers with 15.7" rotors.

With the 2nd row Captain Chairs configured for maximum 2nd row legroom, I am still able to comfortably fit into the 3rd row. I'm 5'11" without an athletic build. I cannot say the same about the MDX/GLS, but the only other competition would've been a minivan or full-size domestic SUV's for $20K more.

I had a ~400 mile drive home from the dealer. The handling is respectable and improved over the Grand Highlander and the TX350, but it won't impress @edyvw or any car enthusiast. I averaged a hand-calculated 24 mpg at "rural I-5 speeds" while varying RPM and having some fun. Overall, the wife is happy and I hope she stays happy with this car for a long time, as it wasn't cheap.

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Nice looking vehicle, did you go hybrid or PHEV?

 

[PandaBear]

Dude...the ZR1 is a 1/2 million dollar car. No "ordinary well off person" is going to be disappointed, I assure you, lol!

People get disappointed when their expectation aren't met. The higher the price tag the higher the expectation.

 

[The Critic]

Nice looking vehicle, did you go hybrid or PHEV?

It's a hybrid.

 

[PandaBear]

Nice choice. I think this is probably the best if not the only vehicle that met all your desire as a compromise. 24mpg is good enough for daily in and Lexus hopefully will have enough durability and quality service if things go wrong (they took my engine out to replace all the pistons + rings at 8 years 70k miles when there was carbon deposit TSB back then, can't complain when other European brands would told me to just deal with it till the warranty is out).

Seems like the 2nd row movement letting you change 2nd and 3rd row legroom seals the deal, with all the extra luxury and features.

 

[The Critic]

Nice choice. I think this is probably the best if not the only vehicle that met all your desire as a compromise. 24mpg is good enough for daily in and Lexus hopefully will have enough durability and quality service if things go wrong (they took my engine out to replace all the pistons + rings at 8 years 70k miles when there was carbon deposit TSB back then, can't complain when other European brands would told me to just deal with it till the warranty is out).

I phoned a friend during my drive home and bought a 10/125k Lexus Extra Care extended warranty. Being a 500h F-Sport, there are a lot of expensive mechanical bits. For example, the rear pair of adaptive dampeners sticker for nearly $2k.