240v charging from two 120v receptacles

[PandaBear]

1) Leaving my desk to go plug/unplug is a time-wasting distraction.
2) Most places I shop at do not have a high speed charger. And when I shop, I am rarely there for more than 30 mins. Plus this is an expensive way to refuel -- more expensive than a gas station.
3) Theoretically possible, but it becomes more trouble than it's worth.

1) True, but until you can get either duck curve problem resolved or charging hardware cost down to negligible, you will have to put up with this for workplace charging. Maybe when self driving finally is everywhere they can rotate parking spot to charge without employees going out to move cars.

2) True. It is not meant to be a cheap way to charge an EV, just top off you range if you don't commute with it. Many people also don't drive their cars too much despite having a gas car, but nonetheless they still need to buy a car even if they only drive like 2 miles a day and 1500 miles a year.

3) True and also like 2), you don't always need a lot of charging if your commute is not long. It is between battery size vs charging speed.

 

[PandaBear]

Here are some interesting stats, less than a year old.
Looks like, at face value that about 30% would go back to gasoline. But there are many unhappy campers out there with EVs.
With that said, I agree with some of your past posts. Those are the people who did not think out what buying an EV entails and did not properly evaluate whether an EV is right for them.

"Are Half Of EV Owners Really 'Switching Back' To Gas? It's Complicated."​

https://insideevs.com/news/726008/mckinsey-study-half-ev-buyers/

Also as of today, the Federal Government has officially rescinded the 5 BILLION dollar program for the states to build out electric charging stations. Very clearly posted on fox business today Feb 7th. I didnt provide a link because we do not talk politics in here. But this is factual data regarding a program that was supposed to move things along that never did.

These surveys are always loaded with bias.

People moving from Dallas to NYC probably sell their cars because it is a different lifestyle and transportation need. "Hey look they are abandoning their SUVs". Going the other way? "Hey look they finally admit they need an SUV and public transportation sucks". You see what I did there?

Fact is people's life change and they need different things during different time of their lives. I have no problem with going back and forth but as of today. EV is not for everyone everywhere, nor was cars back in 1910s, nor was hybrid back in 2004. EVs are improving very fast as are the infrastructures. How fast? Fuel cell was meant to be the stop gap solution until battery is cheaper and now fuel cell is useless: hard to find charging infrastructure, worse roundtrip fuel efficiency, more expensive, can't refuel at home or charge at home, etc.

 

[TimeFlies]

What I find interesting about all this, is how many people are concerned with how someone else charges their car.
Why would it matter to 'Bob' how 'Barb' who has never met him, chooses to charge her EV?
It's her car, charge it on 120, or use this product that uses two outlets, and charges faster than regular 120, or install a super charger at home, or never ever charge at home, only charge at a charging station somewhere, who cares. It's like worrying about when I fill up my gas tank, and do i run the nozzle full speed or half speed, is the station close enough to my home, is it on the right side of the road, was it AM or PM when i bought gas. It's nobody else's business but mine, its my vehicle. My wife has an EV car, it is up to her when, how, and where she charges it, and she is my wife, not a stranger. I really don't care how she charges it, she is an adult, not a 4 year old.

 

[alarmguy]

These surveys are always loaded with bias.

People moving from Dallas to NYC probably sell their cars because it is a different lifestyle and transportation need. "Hey look they are abandoning their SUVs". Going the other way? "Hey look they finally admit they need an SUV and public transportation sucks". You see what I did there?

Fact is people's life change and they need different things during different time of their lives. I have no problem with going back and forth but as of today. EV is not for everyone everywhere, nor was cars back in 1910s, nor was hybrid back in 2004. EVs are improving very fast as are the infrastructures. How fast? Fuel cell was meant to be the stop gap solution until battery is cheaper and now fuel cell is useless: hard to find charging infrastructure, worse roundtrip fuel efficiency, more expensive, can't refuel at home or charge at home, etc.

Yeah, but don’t ignore the hard numbers. The leading manufacturer of electric vehicles in the United States of America had a sales decline in 2024. Even though the government was giving $7500 to buy them.
How can that be on a brand new technology that is supposed to be sweeping the country? According to the media anyway..
So there is some proof that things are not going exactly as planned.

VW is just about giving away their electric vehicles at fire sale prices

General motors two years ago, was smart enough to realize to scale back plans for electric vehicles

Just in the last few days, General Motors is now offering 0% financing for five years on the electric Equinox which is a killer looking electric vehicle. Honestly, I would buy one if I needed a new car, but we just bought the same car in the gasoline version last November.

If you really think about it, and I mean this in no ill way toward you, but your own bias might be jading your judgment

 

[Torrid]

These surveys are always loaded with bias.

People moving from Dallas to NYC probably sell their cars because it is a different lifestyle and transportation need. "Hey look they are abandoning their SUVs". Going the other way? "Hey look they finally admit they need an SUV and public transportation sucks". You see what I did there?

Fact is people's life change and they need different things during different time of their lives. I have no problem with going back and forth but as of today. EV is not for everyone everywhere, nor was cars back in 1910s, nor was hybrid back in 2004. EVs are improving very fast as are the infrastructures. How fast? Fuel cell was meant to be the stop gap solution until battery is cheaper and now fuel cell is useless: hard to find charging infrastructure, worse roundtrip fuel efficiency, more expensive, can't refuel at home or charge at home, etc.

My favorite is "EVs don't work in the cold, it destroys the range, and they're useless in cold climates without many charging locations like the Midwest." My commute for this week and next week is 130 miles a day. I did 4 days this week and 5 next week. I'm doing that on 50%-60% of the battery at 75mph 80%-30% or 20% depending on if I have any other stops. All this on a Model Y Performance which is rated at 279 miles which so many say can't get its advertised range and that's been driving the majority of the time in 10-15 degree weather on top of the speed. I honestly expected it to be worse based on the stories I read. If this is any indication I expect it to beat its projected range in good weather if it actually is taking a decent hit for the cold.

Everything is about adjusting bias based on how "they"(whoever is the source) wants to write the story as you mention. All it really works out to be is fuel for an argument.