2024 Silverado EV - Revealed

[demarpaint]

Sure. I've said many times no one needs to go so fast. True for Teslas, BMWs, Porsches, Corvettes, you name it.
Even the crazy Altima drivers around here...

That is a part of the point I'm trying to make. I doesn't always pertain to speed, it can be luxury, a Pickup, 4x4, a gun, tools, jewelry etc. People have been buying cars forever not always because they make economic sense, but because they want a certain vehicle for whatever hangup they might have. My cousin got me into fast cars in the 1960s as a child when I was old enough to understand fast cars. My only beef with fast cars is when morons drive then like they're at the Indy 500 and endanger my life. The thoughts that race through my mind when that happens would take ten of us to hell. In any event, if I like something and want it, and I can afford it I buy it. Last I heard you got one shot at this life, I want to enjoy it while I can.

 

[ctechbob]

2024 Silverado EV

https://media.chevrolet.com/media/u...s/us/en/2022/jan/ces/0105-2024-silverado.html

5’ 11” bed vs. 5’ 6” bed on the F-150 Lightning.

RST Model.
350 kw DCFC
664 HP, 780 lb-ft.
~400 mile range.
10,000 lbs towing.
1,300 lbs payload.
0-60 under 4.5 seconds.

Coming fall 2023.


WT model.
350kw DCFC
510 HP. 615 lb-ft
8,000 lbs. towing. 20,000 lbs towing coming later.
1,200 lbs payload
~ 400 mile range

Coming Spring 2023.

Not that anyone should buy an EV for towing at this point in time, BUT those towing numbers are pure pipe dreams. None of those trucks have anywhere near the payload to hit them. Maybe the 8000# number if it is just two people and nothing else in the truck.

10,000 is out of reach and I suspect the 20,000 number is a pure fantasy pipe dream.

And I'm not just picking on EV's at this point, most ALL '1/2 tons' can't hit their max towing numbers. They're so loaded down with extra crap these days that their payload numbers are horrible.

 

[Trav]

Many EV buyers have been footing the tax bill for how many decades for ICE production?

If there ever was such a thing then you and every ev driver today also benefited from it before ev cars became more available? How exactly did ICE vehicle production benefit from taxpayer money?

 

[demarpaint]

If there ever was such a thing then you and every ev driver today also benefited from it before ev cars became more available? How exactly did ICE vehicle production benefit from taxpayer money?

Funny isn't it? Before the EV people either drove ICE, took mass transportation, rode a bike, or walked. Those who drove paid for fuel, subsidized or not just like everyone else. Some seem to forget that. Now if you drive ICE and want a new car you might miss out on taxpayer money if you don't go EV. How about you spread the wealth across the board, and give that incentive to anyone buying a new car? Maybe with a few caveats. That will stimulate the economy and put people to work. LOL it ain't gonna happen. Or better yet, pay for the vehicle you want and get no taxpayer money on any vehicle, diesel, gas or electric. That would be my vote.

 

[E365]

TFL Truck did 2.3 miles/kWh over ~50 miles. That comes out to about 495 miles theoretical range, the way they drove it.

 

[JeffKeryk]

If there ever was such a thing then you and every ev driver today also benefited from it before ev cars became more available? How exactly did ICE vehicle production benefit from taxpayer money?

"What's good for GM is good for the country." Charles Wilson.
Including bailouts, I presume.

 

[Snagglefoot]

At one point I predicted Tesla would no longer have 50% of the US EV market. I was wrong, but they may lose that position later this year.

 

[demarpaint]

At one point I predicted Tesla would no longer have 50% of the US EV market. I was wrong, but they may lose that position later this year.

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IMO it's coming, maybe not in 2024, but I'd venture a guess within the next 3-5 years. The competition is coming and Elon continues to piss people off.

 

[Snagglefoot]

TFL Truck did 2.3 miles/kWh over ~50 miles. That comes out to about 495 miles theoretical range, the way they drove it.

Miles per kWh will become a recognizable measure with time. In Canada it will be kWhrs per 100 km.

 

[UncleDave]

If there ever was such a thing then you and every ev driver today also benefited from it before ev cars became more available? How exactly did ICE vehicle production benefit from taxpayer money?

You are kidding right?

 

[Snagglefoot]

Here is a cost calculator using mpg, miles per kWh and the respective prices. It’s a bit old and California is off the charts for electricity and gasoline prices. Enjoy.

 

[Snagglefoot]

By the way, 2.3 miles per kWh is really bad and just another case of putting lipstick on a pig.

 

[fdcg27]

If ever there was an application where an ICE always makes more sense in the current state of the art than EV, this is it.
These things are the wrong application of electric propulsion, but GM and Ford are pretty much one-trick ponies these days, at least for those vehicles actually made in this country that can also generate some bottom line margins.
The take rate on these is destined to be low and if a substantial inventory is built in anticipation of sales that never seem to come, then heavy discounting will come into play since markets must clear.

 

[fdcg27]

"What's good for GM is good for the country." Charles Wilson.
Including bailouts, I presume.

This is often wrongly quoted.
What the man really said in Congressional testimony is "What's good for the country is good for General Motors and vice versa".
Not nearly as arrogant when correctly quoted and makes sense in that when the country did well so did GM, as well as every other American manufacturer of a wide range of durable goods.

 

[E365]

Hitting dealers this week. They need a 350 mile $60k LT trim ASAP.

 

[E365]

A new 14-module Ultium pack at around 120 kWh just went into production for the Brightdrop Zevo delivery vans. This will likely be the standard battery for upcoming, cheaper Silverado EV LT / Custom trims.

It sounds like 16 and 18 module packs won’t “work” due to voltage reasons in how the current Ultium modules are assembled internally (gets into series/parallel issues).

I’d guess much cheaper LT/Custom trims get introduced very soon as the RST production is now underway.

 

[E365]

The Silverado EV 2WT is launching soon with the “Standard Range” battery.

Should be around 280 miles EPA from a 14-module Ultium pack at approximately 120kWh.

Base price $58,995.

https://insideevs.com/news/729630/2025-chevrolet-silverado-ev-wt-price/

 

[UncleDave]

Here is a cost calculator using mpg, miles per kWh and the respective prices. It’s a bit old and California is off the charts for electricity and gasoline prices. Enjoy.

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Sadly, both electricity and gasoline costs for me are off that chart.

 

[Torrid]

Sadly, both electricity and gasoline costs for me are off that chart.

Had this conversation with a coworker today who originally lived in California. EVs if you're into them are super attractive here in Wisconsin for electricity cost. California isn't cheap on anything.

It's crazy within the same country, but different state that it's 3x the cost for electricity and 2x the cost on gasoline.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Had this conversation with a coworker today who originally lived in California. EVs if you're into them are super attractive here in Wisconsin for electricity cost. California isn't cheap on anything.

It's crazy within the same country, but different state that it's 3x the cost for electricity and 2x the cost on gasoline.

You charge at night when the rates are low. And before NEM II solar was a no brainier. Charging an EV maximizes the value of the solar asset. I expect solar to get more advantageous going forward, but who the heck knows?