You are amazed at the anti ev sentiment? Not hard to figure out at these prices.
2024 Silverado EV - Revealed
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Cost per mile really matters. Let's use 200K lifespan as a practical number.
50 cents per mile in capital costs. $100K purchase price, 200K usable life. And 50c per kWh charging on the road minus a 13-15% loss. As you purchase more power than makes it out of the battery.
Using your 15c home number, and never paying elsewhere, you still have 2.1 miles per kWh on average, you still have to purchase nearly $17K worth of power.
Compared to the gas pickup which can be had for $60K, and gets 20MPG, leaving you $57,000 for gas. Or about 326,000 miles.
Well, CA is not exactly known for its low energy prices... That's why I researched solar for 5 years before signing on the dotted line in early 2018. The project was for our home electricity costs; I thought I might buy an EV one day and ended up buying one the same year. Now I pay about $10 per month to run the house and the car. I am past the solar project break even point; now it's all gravy.
Why pay crazy prices for electricity and gas when there are alternatives?
Yeah about $0.40/kwh here and it's going to go up. Crazy. Don't know why people vote for state government who continue to allow this to happen.
People dont vote for price increases, they vote for ideas - without understanding they mean price increases.
In the case of California the citizens are getting exactly what they voted for.
Most just weren't smart enough to know what they were voting for.
The SIlverado EV isn't exactly getting glowing reviews. Thedrive writer said that the ride is twitchy, the stitching on the seats should have been more even (It's the small things) and the interior is way too plasticky for the price. My thought was why in the world does it have 24" wheels? I thought we were over the upsizing every year. A set of forged lightweight 20"s should have been sufficient.
Im not. You've got three choices
Home - although bare min is going to be a 50 amp connector.
CCS if you can find a working one with 350KW
Tesla V3 looks like it'll sustain 180KWH - which is pretty good.
Tesla v4's should thump CCS but arent rolled out yet.
Its a pig for sure with the worst MPKW rating so as a commuter truck its going to be expensive, but that massive battery makes it work as a truck where everything is an also ran when towing.
Id also rather it have a nacs connector than a CCS connector. That battle has been lost by CCS.
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Yeah, that’s what I’m seeing too. The 24” wheels aren’t helping anything. There isn’t that ride-quality criticism with the WT trims. Thankfully LT/Custom/TrailBoss trims won’t have 24s.
Also sound like factory tire pressure is 68 PSI rear and 61 or 62 PSI front. I’d bet lower pressures when not fully loaded would do wonders. That’s what the Out of Spec review was implying at least.
At 50K+ and poor performance much of the year it is not even worth considering. Now they want to charge solar users to accept any over production into the grid. Its all good in lala land or kookville but not here.
I get it, but with those price figures it's about feelings and not financial sense if it doesn't serve another purpose.
Lower them and consumption gets even worse.
At this weight most other vehicle are duallys.
68+ PSI pressures are norm for SRW vehicles of this heft.
Yeah, the opportunity here is amazing. Someone with your KSAs (Silicon Valley speak for knowledge, skills and abilities) could write your own ticket. I love it here.
The same can be said about some of these EVs and the speeds people brag about them being able to obtain. What purpose does the speed it can hit and the 0-60 times serve as a daily driver? Sounds to me like it's about feelings and bragging rights, and a waste of money to many of us. Like I said the knife cuts both ways.
Sure, but I was talking about a vast difference in cost. A car that is $20k-$30k cheaper and costs 1/4 as much to operate per mile isn't a small figure. Then again I drive a sub compact so I don't typically get involved in measuring contests that deal in size and horsepower. Features and handling for my own amusement sold it to me. Performance is fun and all and is what I enjoy about cars, but I got over magazine racing as a teenager. It can shape my buying decisions somewhat (the slower RS3 costs $20k more than a Model 3 Performance as an example), but I don't really get into the "dude, my car would smoke you" angle as a serious talking point. I only bring up the Performance and the RS3 as they're both what I feel are premium vehicles I'd like to own, yet they're still relatively inexpensive to operate on a daily basis for my use.
There are still plenty people who buy what they want simply because they want it, no rhyme, no reason. Stupid ugly things like $100K Cyber Trucks. This is still America.
FTR there is nothing wrong with your logic either, however not everyone is going to agree with it.
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Absolutely. I know many that spend their time trashing EVs too. It can be a pretty involved conversation, but usually facts aren’t a real consideration even when they’re called facts.
To be honest I never cared about efficiency. I wanted the baddest engine in the best chassis I could afford. Then I started driving more than 10 miles to work. Now it’s a balancing act to fun and efficiency just because I didn’t want to part with so much to move it. I love muscle cars, but they just don’t make sense for me to own them anymore.
While that is true , with the way folks drive right now, they will need to have stations everywhere- something not physically possible for years. If you’re low on gas, you have choices everywhere. EVs require more thought and planning than most people can do at the moment- which includes the home charger (if they are able)
Sure. I've said many times no one needs to go so fast. True for Teslas, BMWs, Porsches, Corvettes, you name it.
Even the crazy Altima drivers around here...
Well, I know people who love their EVs but "will never own a Tesla". So there's that; it takes all kinds.
