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You're not wrong there. Our lives are all just worth a rounding error on some of these company's balance sheets with opinions like that. I forgot about the Iococca line.
Ioccocca was not confronted with the staggering court settlements witnessed today. The corporate giants in his day had legal departments that could grind claimants to death. That isn't the case today, The bigger they are, the more they pay! Punitive damages didn't really exist back then either.
 
No, this does not correlate. This is about new cars and the CR-V hybrid has only been out since 2020 anyway. The typical driver is a middle aged mother of 2.

The people your describing are driving a 15 year old CR-v handed down by said mother. Or perhaps a 15 year old civic/camry or Kia soul.

Also, why the hybrid - why not the ICE model also - its not even on the list?

Very strange indeed.
The typical CRV driver around here at least is 50-60 yr olds. Age of vehicle 7 yrs or newer myself included.
 
Tesla's high death rate is probably due to that awesome acceleration and people not knowing how to handle it. Also always using it.
 
While accurate, I think that's what drives the vehicle car wars so to speak. It just continues to get worse with vehicle weights.
Vehicles are generally getting lighter - with the exception of EV's due to battery weight. If you compare a base F150 to one 10 years ago its lighter. Of course people continue to choose to buy bigger and bigger - for example no one buys a single cab pickup anymore - even service companies that never use the back seat. I am not sure how to correlate that.

My Rav4 is lighter than the previous Gen, even though its larger.

The biggest risk careful drivers have is being rear-ended - its like one third of all accidents. I have seen people drive straight in to the back of someone else at a stop light. Clearly they were on a phone or something, didn't even lift. In that case I definitely want something heavier.
 
Vehicles are generally getting lighter - with the exception of EV's due to battery weight. If you compare a base F150 to one 10 years ago its lighter. Of course people continue to choose to buy bigger and bigger - for example no one buys a single cab pickup anymore - even service companies that never use the back seat. I am not sure how to correlate that.

The biggest risk careful drivers have is either being rear-ended - its like one third of all accidents. I have seen people drive straight in to the back of someone else at a stop light. Clearly they were on a phone or something, didn't even lift. In that case I definitely want something heavier.
Some have gotten lighter, but people keep choosing larger vehicles than they used to, so even with that the average car on the road is heavier.

The EV thing really baffles me. It makes sense in smaller vehicles, but the amount of battery needed for a large one adds a ton more weight and takes further away from the efficiency.
 
Some have gotten lighter, but people keep choosing larger vehicles than they used to, so even with that the average car on the road is heavier.

The EV thing really baffles me. It makes sense in smaller vehicles, but the amount of battery needed for a large one adds a ton more weight and takes further away from the efficiency.
Yes, people keep wanting larger. But can you blame them - even if its purely from the safety aspect? If I buy a small car, and everyone else doesn't - I am at a significant disadvantage. It only works if everyone drives smaller.
 
Yes, people keep wanting larger. But can you blame them - even if its purely from the safety aspect? If I buy a small car, and everyone else doesn't - I am at a significant disadvantage. It only works if everyone drives smaller.
People have a very flawed understanding about what is actually safer, but by actually just going bigger and heavier it only guarantees that it will be more dangerous, likely for someone else.
 
People have a very flawed understanding about what is actually safer, but by actually just going bigger and heavier it only guarantees that it will be more dangerous, likely for someone else.
It is well proven that larger / heavier vehicles generally fare better in a vehicle / vehicle collision - which is your most likely accident.

Your logic seems quite flawed. Its not my duty to protect the public. Its my job to protect my family.

The safest vehicle is the one with a driver paying attention. I have many times escaped being rear ended by getting out of the way. However someday I may not be able to do so, hence I would rather be in something heavy and safe.
 
It is well proven that larger / heavier vehicles generally fare better in a vehicle / vehicle collision - which is your most likely accident.

Your logic seems quite flawed. Its not my duty to protect the public. Its my job to protect my family.

The safest vehicle is the one with a driver paying attention. I have many times escaped being rear ended by getting out of the way. However someday I may not be able to do so, hence I would rather be in something heavy and safe.
I'd like to not continue the vehicle warzone to be honest. Big and heavy is also more expensive and more expensive to operate. It lost its feasibility when I started doing 20k miles a year. While I understand your reasoning, I think it's horribly short sighted and just further continues the problem.
 
And I've been lambasted repeatedly here for speaking out about heavier and larger vehicles on our roads.
Not everybody wants to drive a tinker toy. It's called choice, and if someone wants to drive a big heavy vehicle it shouldn't be anybody else's business. Certainly not governments business to say you can't have what you want.
 
Not everybody wants to drive a tinker toy. It's called choice, and if someone wants to drive a big heavy vehicle it shouldn't be anybody else's business. Certainly not governments business to say you can't have what you want.
I didn't know a midsize crossover was a tinker toy.
 
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