2023 VW Jetta

Just curious as so many new(er) vehicle are gravitating to 15,000 mile oil changes. Seems like a lot to ask of the oil and filter, depending on driving style and environment. Just doesn't "feel" right!

Is anyone testing their oil with this kind of milage to see how it is performing/enduring these lengthy in-service intervals?

I usually change every 7/8,000 miles or two years - all German cars. Mobil 1 and Castrol full syn. have served me well so far.
 
Bigdude2468 said:
My point was we have been exclusively GM, Ford, Chrysler purchaser's, have never had an Asian or Euro vehicle in the family.
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I had one a few guys on here still have one. The car is no good in the snow - massive wheel hop problems on hills with the stick shift. Maybe they fixed that. But I got Fantastic fuel mileage in the upper 30's, smooth ride.

That chassis has a big undertray that must be removed, if you don't have a lift your are not going to be doing oil changes at home.
There is a massive thread on here about VW 508 oil. I found it too thin for my engine and had to substitute a litre of 0w40 Euro Mobil1 to not have excessive engine racket and loss of power when the oil was hot. That was on the 1.4L motor.

5k would be ABSOLUTELY too short an interval for the VW508/509 if your boy drives any distance regularly.

Finally, use the factory VW filter only.

a big 508 thread:

VW 508 question

Hey guys, I was checking my owner's manual and could not see anything about 508.00 0w20 approval. This is what it says So far I have put about 1400 kms on my '21 GLI. It burned 0.3 qt oil in the first 300 kms, and I topped it off to max. Now I am at 1350 km and I found that it burned another...
bobistheoilguy.com
 
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My Jetta handles extremely well in snow. I have chains but have never used them, including going over Cedar Pass in the NE corner of CA during blizzard. Wheels were slipping at the end on that one though. At 311,000 miles with 5K oil changes, my Jetta still does not use oil.

I starting ignoring the VW oil recommendation at 100 K miles and use M-1 TDT. So, I think the Mobil 1 0w-20 ought to work fine but wonder if a 5w-30 would not be better. I would not use anything less than a full synthetic in a car with a turbo.
 
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2005jettatdi said:
My Jetta handles extremely well in snow. I have chains but have never used them, including going over Cedar Pass in the NE corner of CA during blizzard. Wheels were slipping at the end on that one though. At 311,000 miles with 5K oil changes, my Jetta still does not use oil.

I starting ignoring the VW oil recommendation at 100 K miles and use M-1 TDT. So, I think the Mobil 1 0w-20 ought to work fine but wonder if a 5w-30 would not be better. I would not use anything less than a full synthetic in a car with a turbo.
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What year? the new gen are quite a different animal
 
VW approved oils must meet tougher specs than API/ILSAC. Although below is not meant for comparison between specifications, it gives you an idea of what those specs and approvals must meet...

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VW508.00 is the toughest 0W-20 approval in the industry as of this post.
 
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I was reading this thread and hoping the original poster would have let us know what he had chosen to do with regard to the oil. I don't own a VW but their oil specifications have always fascinated me.

Early this morning I was doing a comparison between Amsoil's VW approved 508/509 and Mobil-1's ESP X2 0W20 and I was pleasantly surprised to see that my local Autozone sells the Mobil product and actually has it in stock. It was comparably priced to the Amsoil at a savings of $0.60 per quart.

A previous poster mentioned getting a 508/509 oil from the dealership for $7.50 per quart so if that's still the case then that would be the economical choice.
 
Bigdude2468 said:
First time anyone in the family has purchased an "import", I am the family mechanic. My older son just bought a 2023 VW Jetta 1.5T Sport, 1.5liter DOHC TSI turbo. Any recommendations about oil? Looks like he gets free maintenance for 30,000 miles. My guess is I will want to change oil in between whatever VW says the interval is.
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Valvoline Euro 0W-20.

VW 508.00 approval is outdated and not sufficient. Ensure that it has either API SN PLUS or higher (API SP) or ACEA C6 in addition to VW 508.00; otherwise, you will not get LSPI protection, which is very important for these TGDI engines.

 
Gokhan said:
Valvoline Euro 0W-20.

VW 508.00 approval is outdated and not sufficient. Ensure that it has either API SN PLUS or higher (API SP) or ACEA C6 in addition to VW 508.00; otherwise, you will not get LSPI protection, which is very important for these TGDI engines.

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Infineum delivers 2nd generation of Volkswagen 0W-20 fuel economy lubricant | Automotive World

Infineum P6088: designed to meet the requirements of the latest generation of the Volkswagen Standards VW 508 00 / 509 00, also known as “Volkswagen BlueOil”
www.automotiveworld.com www.automotiveworld.com

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Building on the strength of Infineum’s response to VW’s 1st generation BlueOil, Infineum P6088 has been developed for wider geographic coverage, meeting demanding fuel economy requirements while improving engine protection. This includes going above and beyond the requirements of the specification and adding additional features, notably, LSPI protection.
 
wemay said:

Infineum delivers 2nd generation of Volkswagen 0W-20 fuel economy lubricant | Automotive World

Infineum P6088: designed to meet the requirements of the latest generation of the Volkswagen Standards VW 508 00 / 509 00, also known as “Volkswagen BlueOil”
www.automotiveworld.com www.automotiveworld.com

From above...
Building on the strength of Infineum’s response to VW’s 1st generation BlueOil, Infineum P6088 has been developed for wider geographic coverage, meeting demanding fuel economy requirements while improving engine protection. This includes going above and beyond the requirements of the specification and adding additional features, notably, LSPI protection.
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Good but note that VW 508.00 is not a specification by itself. There is also the year suffix, like VW 508.00 2022. Unless the oil is also ACEA C6 or API SP approved, you are not getting VW 508.00 2022 but something like VW 508.00 2016, which has no LSPI protection, and it will show as a high-calcium/low-magnesium non-LSPI-approved oil in a VOA/UOA.
 
Yes but this was published in 2019. I doubt you'd find an oil with VW508.00 on sale that's this old. This article also presents in the context of being something new. This leads one to believe that from the start, 508 has had LSPI protection baked in.
 
wemay said:
Yes but this was published in 2019. I doubt you'd find an oil with VW508.00 on sale that's this old. This article also presents in the context of being something new. This leads one to believe that from the start, 508 has had LSPI protection baked in.
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No, for example this 2019 UOA shows Castrol Edge Professional Long-Life IV FE 0W-20 VW 508.00 being high-calcium/low-magnesium with no LSPI protection.

2018 Audi S4 Castrol 0W20 508.00

Here is my second UOA of my 2018 Audi S4 with 12k miles on the clock. This sample was taken at 4.5k miles and was not changed. My wife drives this car and has a round trip of 22 miles a day. It gets driven probably 90/10 city to highway. She does get on it pretty good as I can hear the d@mn...
bobistheoilguy.com
 
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