2023 Mach-E Tires down to 4/32nds after 29.7K miles.

[Brons2]

Ok here's a data point so all you BITOGers can say "I told you so"

The factory Michelins are down to 4/32nds in the back after less than 30K. The fronts are about 6/32nds. Probably time to just go ahead and replace them all, it's my wife's car. We tend to have torrential downpours inbetween long dry periods, so good tread is important to weather those infrequent gullywashers.

I noticed this because my wife got a nail stuck in the back tire. The app on my phone started squawking when I was at the office that the pressure was unusually low or something to that effect, and I saw that it was down to 24 PSI.

Car has no spare but it comes with an air compressor with the goop built in. I used that to pump the tire in question up to close to max sidewall pressure, about 47psi. So far it's holding after 2 days, I've been driving it to the office the last two days. The nail is still in it. Discount Tire refused to fix it because they said it's in the shoulder. It's definitely not in the sidewall, but whatever. I'll drive one of those cheap Amazon plugs into it this weekend when I have time to jack it up. Started looking for tire sales and rebates for a full set.

Costco has an overall better deal because they don't charge for mounting and balancing the new tires, even though a Continental at Discount is about $40 less per tire, but they make it back in mounting and road hazard. For Defender 2s in 225/55R19 it's $252/tire. $80 instant rebate, about $960 out the door with disposal fees. Over 800 UTQG. Still ouchy on the price, but all these new cars have expensive tires with their big wheels.

You can have off-brands shipped from TireRack to Discount Tire and the mounting fee is $126 for all 4. I guess it really comes down to whether we keep it off lease or not, the buyout is pretty cheap and it hasn't given us any trouble.

 

[ripcord]

EV's are pretty heavy. Shouldn't those Mach-E's have load range E tires?

All jokes aside, I bet you will never get the warrantied life out of most tires due to the combination of a very heavy vehicle, excess torque and acceleration compared to other cars and a lead footed wife.

 

[Astro_Guy]

@Brons2 Thanks for the data point. Facts are always friendly. Google says that your vehicle has a 50/50 weight distribution. Is yours the AWD or RWD? Have the tires been rotated?

 

[JeffKeryk]

Maybe ask Discount Tire for a little help on the Contis? I'm not proud...
I got like 22K on the original tires on our Model 3 Performance, but that is to be expected for the summer tire Pirelli P-Zero.

EVs are heavy. Other cars as well, but just the same, short tire life is an EV tax we gotta pay. The Continentals on our 2018 Model 3 Mid Range lasted much longer; they were fine when I traded the car in.

 

[Brons2]

@Brons2 Thanks for the data point. Facts are always friendly. Google says that your vehicle has a 50/50 weight distribution. Is yours the AWD or RWD? Have the tires been rotated?

It's the AWD, small battery and subsequently pretty small range, although because ours is LFP and the big battery is NMC, the small battery actually weighs more.

Tires were rotated at 15K. I was going to do it again at 30K, but maybe I should have cut my interval down to keep things more even.

 

[Brons2]

Maybe ask Discount Tire for a little help on the Contis? I'm not proud...
I got like 22K on the original tires on our Model 3 Performance, but that is to be expected for the summer tire Pirelli P-Zero.

EVs are heavy. Other cars as well, but just the same, short tire life is an EV tax we gotta pay. The Continentals on our 2018 Model 3 Mid Range lasted much longer; they were fine when I traded the car in.

TireRack had some summer-only Bridgestones on sale for around $140/ea, but the UTQG is 320, I imagine those would probably only last around 22K also.

 

[JeffKeryk]

TireRack had some summer-only Bridgestones on sale for around $140/ea, but the UTQG is 320, I imagine those would probably only last around 22K also.

I just pay and drive on. What's a poor boy to do?

 

[jghall00]

I think the weight concerns are overstated. My Blazer is nearly as heavy as my Expedition but is much harder on tires. I think it's the right foot and that torque delivery that kills the tires. Instead of an mpg gauge, there should be a tire-friendliness driving gauge.

It can be a little graphic of skid marks and the more aggressive your low speed acceleration, the darker and longer the skid marks.

 

[Legs4Arms]

Seems about right.
You can hear those things rolling along from blocks away late at night.

 

[GrumpyCat]

Some say EVs are heavy but fail to note EVs wear appropriately sized tires for their load.

When shopping for EV tires one should pay attention to low rolling resistance. Can make a huge difference in range.

 

[Torrid]

EV's are pretty heavy. Shouldn't those Mach-E's have load range E tires?

All jokes aside, I bet you will never get the warrantied life out of most tires due to the combination of a very heavy vehicle, excess torque and acceleration compared to other cars and a lead footed wife.

Right? Driving style has a lot to do with it. With nearly the same car and nearly the same weight my wife always goes through tires much faster than I do. Her rear tires were completely gone at 21k miles on the Model 3 RWD. Her driving is mostly in town stop and go and she has a heavy foot. Same when we both had V8 Jaguars. She went through her tires twice as fast as I do. I still have 6/32s on the tires on my Model Y Performance at 23k miles now and I can't rotate my tires due to the staggered width. A lot of my driving is highway speeds.

 

[RhondaHonda]

My Model Y Performance OE Michelins and 42,900 miles are:

Fronts: 5-6/32”
Rears: 3/32”

I’ll get new tires this summer. The inner shoulders of the tires are more worn. No complaints, I was expecting to replace them at 15,000 from all the stuff I read online,

 

[Torrid]

My Model Y Performance OE Michelins and 42,900 miles are:

Fronts: 5-6/32”
Rears: 3/32”

I’ll get new tires this summer. The inner shoulders of the tires are more worn. No complaints, I was expecting to replace them at 15,000 from all the stuff I read online,

Yeah, with the lower suspension especially the rears do see some inner tire wear compared to the standard model. I've thought about correcting it, but it's common in performance cars and really it's not that aggressive unless you have a heavy foot which amplifies it from the rear suspension compressing accelerating hard. Realistically the negative camber should help with cornering harder anyway.

 

[RhondaHonda]

Yeah, with the lower suspension especially the rears do see some inner tire wear compared to the standard model. I've thought about correcting it, but it's common in performance cars and really it's not that aggressive unless you have a heavy foot which amplifies it from the rear suspension compressing accelerating hard. Realistically the negative camber should help with cornering harder anyway.

I found a guy here that will align the stock suspension as best he can to minimize tire wear. I’ll pay him a visit when I get new tires but so far I’m very happy with how long the OE tires lasted.

Now to figure out what tires are next.

 

[pezzy84]

50k on the Michelin CC2's on my ID.4 - rears are ~5/32's and fronts are probably ~6-7/32's. I'll probably let them go another 10-15k miles then replace. They are getting a little noisy and standard Michelin cracking is showing up but they have been overall fantastic.

Debating replacing them with the OE Kumho Crugen HP71 when I get to that point as they are ~$400 cheaper than the CC2's for the set, however the wear on the CC2's is stellar so I am worried there may be no savings there if the Kumho's end up wearing out faster.

 

[Torrid]

50k on the Michelin CC2's on my ID.4 - rears are ~5/32's and fronts are probably ~6-7/32's. I'll probably let them go another 10-15k miles then replace. They are getting a little noisy and standard Michelin cracking is showing up but they have been overall fantastic.

Debating replacing them with the OE Kumho Crugen HP71 when I get to that point as they are ~$400 cheaper than the CC2's for the set, however the wear on the CC2's is stellar so I am worried there may be no savings there if the Kumho's end up wearing out faster.

Have you considered Hankook ION Evo? That's what came on my Model Y Performance and Hankook is the brand I always buy when I replace tires. They're the first OEM set I've had that I want again. They're so quiet even on my staggered 21" setup.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Have you considered Hankook ION Evo? That's what came on my Model Y Performance and Hankook is the brand I always buy when I replace tires. They're the first OEM set I've had that I want again. They're so quiet even on my staggered 21" setup.

Glad you like the Hankooks; the price is good. Having said that, I replaced the OE Hankooks on my friend Mani's '19 CRV-EXL with Continentals. OMG it was a different vehicle. I have to believe Honda would sell a lot more with the Contis. Night and day.

 

[Torrid]

Glad you like the Hankooks; the price is good. Having said that, I replaced the OE Hankooks on my friend Mani's '19 CRV-EXL with Continentals. OMG it was a different vehicle. I have to believe Honda would sell a lot more with the Contis. Night and day.

I did like the Continentals that my Jaguars came with, but I did end up putting Hankooks on those cars when I replaced them. To be fair I've never had a set of really worn Hankooks, so maybe they aren't so great when they get older. We'll see how I feel about them when it's time to replace them.

 

[pezzy84]

Have you considered Hankook ION Evo? That's what came on my Model Y Performance and Hankook is the brand I always buy when I replace tires. They're the first OEM set I've had that I want again. They're so quiet even on my staggered 21" setup.

We have those on the '22 (came on the car at CPO purchase) and I do like them for how luxury they ride. I priced them out a few months back and they were +$400 in price beyond the Michelins so they are a no go, will double check again once it comes time.

 

[Torrid]

We have those on the '22 (came on the car at CPO purchase) and I do like them for how luxury they ride. I priced them out a few months back and they were +$400 in price beyond the Michelins so they are a no go, will double check again once it comes time.

Yikes. I'm not used to Hankooks being the more expensive option.