2019 VW Tiguan 2.0L 7k mi
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Good to know the oil holds up! My wife uses VW dealer and their 10k interval in her similar 2018 VW Tiguan with 94k.
i suppose the green tint is for warranty!! although YEARS ago i used a very good oil that cut my consumption by United Lubricants, + it was green + sold privately. but back then i knew little about lubricants but thanks to BITOG + other internet sites i learned a LOT.
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Looks like a good (unremarkable) report. I expect that iron will trend down as break-in tapers off.
A common Bitog sentiment which may be true but not in the way it is commonly expressed. The only actual fact we have is that VW has cautioned that 508 00 approved oil is not backwards compatible with other approvals, so rather than being a warranty issue with engines that specify 508 00 it is far more likely that it is to prevent its use in engines that do not specify the approval.
No engine damage will occur by using an oil with a higher HT/HS but engine damage can occur with an oil where the HT/HS is inadequate. VW is trying (and has stated) that they are attempting to prevent this from happening.
As an anecdote my dealer uses 504 00 oil in my new Tiguan at my request and doesn’t even ask why.
Looks good. Like the 7.53 vis after 6800 miles.
I honestly don't think the old oil is genuine VW 508. The genuine 508's usually hold viscosity even better than that. Add pack is not in line with the 508's I've seen either.
Oil still did fine for the shorter run but VW intends the 508 oils to go 10k and all the used oil analysis I've seen indicate it will do just that. This oil would not have made it.
Here's a chart of 508's, I'm sure it's not all of them but it's most of them 508 is not a real common spec. You'll see they all run Ca in the 1700-1900 ppm range with no magnesium . The Ca level and mediocre viscosity retention tells me that the drained oil in the used oil analysis was not 508.
Oil still did fine for the shorter run but VW intends the 508 oils to go 10k and all the used oil analysis I've seen indicate it will do just that. This oil would not have made it.
Here's a chart of 508's, I'm sure it's not all of them but it's most of them 508 is not a real common spec. You'll see they all run Ca in the 1700-1900 ppm range with no magnesium . The Ca level and mediocre viscosity retention tells me that the drained oil in the used oil analysis was not 508.
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It’s possible since we didn’t know when or what the oil fill was. We were told an oil change was done before he bought the car but no way to verify
My friend is afraid to put in anything other than what the owners manual calls for, for warranty purposes.
That's absolutely ok. There are several used oil analysis showing good results with
VW 508 00 oil. That said, Mobil 1 ESP x2 0W-20 is great oil, one of the best
VW 508 00. As is Fram Ultra similarly, however personally I'd use an OE
VW oil filter if the car's still under warranty and even for a while after.
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VW 508 00 oil. That said, Mobil 1 ESP x2 0W-20 is great oil, one of the best
VW 508 00. As is Fram Ultra similarly, however personally I'd use an OE
VW oil filter if the car's still under warranty and even for a while after.
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That's fine I tend to roll the same way, you did good with your selections.
If we wanted to split hairs I believe the "best" VW 508 is probably Ravenol VSE, but the VW 508 spec is so tough anything that meets it will be very good oil and in actual use it will not likely make any difference at all.
I'm running Liqui Moly because FCP Euro had it at a very competitive price, but any VW 508 will do.
Hard to say which is better, probably impossible to tell. Both are excellent.
Mobil 1 ESP x2 0W-20 is GTL + PAO + Polyolester, while Ravenol VSE is likely
(more of) PAO + Polyolester. Not sure if there's a VSE VOA, though you're
right, anything VW 508 00 approved is fine if used in the correct application.
VW (or Audi, as the 2.0T is an Audi development) did some tweaks on these
engines to 'strengthen' them for the use of thinner oil - e.g. they altered the
oil pump's chain drive (+10%).
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/mobil-1-esp-x2-0w20-voa.334027/
https://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/32753-mobil1-esp-x2-0w-20-svezhee/
https://oil-club.de/index.php?thread/3579-mobil1-esp-x2-0w-20/
Mobil 1 ESP x2 0W-20 is GTL + PAO + Polyolester, while Ravenol VSE is likely
(more of) PAO + Polyolester. Not sure if there's a VSE VOA, though you're
right, anything VW 508 00 approved is fine if used in the correct application.
VW (or Audi, as the 2.0T is an Audi development) did some tweaks on these
engines to 'strengthen' them for the use of thinner oil - e.g. they altered the
oil pump's chain drive (+10%).
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/mobil-1-esp-x2-0w20-voa.334027/
https://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/32753-mobil1-esp-x2-0w-20-svezhee/
https://oil-club.de/index.php?thread/3579-mobil1-esp-x2-0w-20/
There is a VOA of Ravenol VSE in the chart I posted above. Been a couple of used oil analysis on it here too, it holds up extremely well.
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