2018 Toyota Sequoia Castrol Edge 0W-30

[chris719]

Agree to disagree -- if the effect was negligible, OEM's would have no issues using high SAPS oils across the board. OEM's have to warranty catalysts for as long as 150K in some states and clearly, this continues to be a concern.

Mid/low SAPS only became a thing when DPF/OPF/GPF came along, for Euros anyway. A car with a conventional cat alone has nothing to worry about. Some early 2000s BMW V8s drink oil and they have 20 years of high SAPS oil but I never hear of cat problems.

 

[f355spider]

Here is the UOA of Castrol Edge 0W30 in Sequoia. I am a bit disappointed with this new version. Zinc and Phosphorus are down compared to the previous version. Overall, it is good report, but IMO, nothing exceptional about this Castrol now. We'll see how it does in BMW, which has a much harder life than the Sequoia.

What would you consider a replacement for the Castrol, if you decide to switch? Mobil 1 ESP 0w-30?

 

[edyvw]

What would you consider a replacement for the Castrol, if you decide to switch? Mobil 1 ESP 0w-30?

Sequoia will see ESP 0W30 eventually. I have a lot of Motul left over on my shelf, so using that.
BMW, I will run Castrol 0W30 again to see how it lands. BMW has a much tougher life than the Sequoia. It is daily, I take it to ski, etc. Sequoia is basically a road trip car.
This sample had, though, maybe 7-8 ski runs, a trip to Vegas with numerous 30-minute idling sessions for breastfeeding baby, etc. So, oil was probably pushed more than your average Sequoia.

 

[chris719]

Sequoia will see ESP 0W30 eventually. I have a lot of Motul left over on my shelf, so using that.
BMW, I will run Castrol 0W30 again to see how it lands. BMW has a much tougher life than the Sequoia. It is daily, I take it to ski, etc. Sequoia is basically a road trip car.
This sample had, though, maybe 7-8 ski runs, a trip to Vegas with numerous 30-minute idling sessions for breastfeeding baby, etc. So, oil was probably pushed more than your average Sequoia.

The additive pack is almost identical looking to TPT 0W-30 now except a bit more Ca+Mg. It could actually be better in theory with the reduction of ZDDP being offset by the reduction in the detergent content from the previous version. I still don't like the idea of A3/B4 with this low ZDDP even if BMW was already doing it with TPT... but maybe it works.

 

[edyvw]

The additive pack is almost identical looking to TPT 0W-30 now except a bit more Ca+Mg. It could actually be better in theory with the reduction of ZDDP being offset by the reduction in the detergent content from the previous version. I still don't like the idea of A3/B4 with this low ZDDP even if BMW was already doing it with TPT... but maybe it works.

Will see once I do a different lab. Is this just a mistake.
Based on this, ESP 0W30 has more ZDDP.

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

Oh my goodness 0W-30 in a Newer Toyota and it hasn't blown-up!

 

[edyvw]

Oh my goodness 0W-30 in a Newer Toyota and it hasn't blown-up!

Not any 0W30. Almost 0W40 lol.

 

[addyguy]

There are now 2 Castrol Edge 0W-30’s - the old-school style API SL, A3 oil, and a newer one. We just got this ‘new’ one in at work the other day; I didn’t check the specs, but I suspect it is an ‘LV’ version with lower AW treat rates.

 

[EllieMae94]

Oh how the mighty have fallen.

 

[edyvw]

Oh how the mighty have fallen.

The more I think the less I trust this UOA.
TAN is way too high. If this was in my BMW that is driven very hard, hot engine, I would say, maybe.
But 3UR-FE is really not known as being hard on oil. This car does not see extensive city use.
I will run sample in BMW once I am due for next oil change, 5k and see where it lands, using different lab.

 

[FZ1]

Here is the UOA of Castrol Edge 0W30 in Sequoia. I am a bit disappointed with this new version. Zinc and Phosphorus are down compared to the previous version. Overall, it is good report, but IMO, nothing exceptional about this Castrol now. We'll see how it does in BMW, which has a much harder life than the Sequoia.

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Even my Honda Lawnmower prefers 10w-30 Valvoline Advanced or Quaker State syn to the Castrol . I treat my LM reel good.

 

[edyvw]

Even my Honda Lawnmower prefers 10w-30 Valvoline Advanced or Quaker State syn to the Castrol . I treat my LM reel good.

There is nothing wrong with engine wear etc.
The oil itself is in question. Based on TAN, I am thinking this might require another test by some other lab.

 

[FZ1]

There is nothing wrong with engine wear etc.
The oil itself is in question. Based on TAN, I am thinking this might require another test by some other lab.

Yep, the Castrol seems ho-hum, even John Force ain't usin' it.

 

[edyvw]

Yep, the Castrol seems ho-hum, even John Force ain't usin' it.

Any oil that has MB 229.5 approval is not ho-hum.
I used their 0W40 API SN version on track in sessions as long as 1.5hrs in 101f ambient temperature at 5,100ft altitude, 5k OCI, and didn’t do any worse than regular 5k OCI without track time.

 

[svenson]

The more I think the less I trust this UOA.
TAN is way too high. If this was in my BMW that is driven very hard, hot engine, I would say, maybe.
But 3UR-FE is really not known as being hard on oil. This car does not see extensive city use.
I will run sample in BMW once I am due for next oil change, 5k and see where it lands, using different lab.

well ,the right thing would be to run it ,to the same engine-car with a different lab.its the right comparison i think.

 

[edyvw]

well ,the right thing would be to run it ,to the same engine-car with a different lab.its the right comparison i think.

True. Maybe. BMW engine is harder on oil. Also, ZDDP values are going to be reflected in both engines. Maybe I just give it a run in Sequoia again. I still have some Motul 5W40 I use in BMW.

 

[buster]

Go with OAI next.