2016 Infinity Q50 2.0t review

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This past week I had the pleasure of renting an Infinity Q50 with the 2.0 turbocharged 4 cylinder (rear wheel drive) with 2800 miles since new! Interesting car, not sure it's worth $40K, but interesting for sure.

I found the car very comfortable and easy to understand. The leather seats were easy to adjust to my liking, and the "fit" was great. The "sport" settings on steering and performance were enough to keep me entertained. The ride was taught, firm and well damped. I drive the same roads in NJ/NY with all of my rental cars and this car handled the quality pavement (hahaha) of the NorthEast and NYC with ease. Even with spirited driving. None of the typical GM faults of suspension topping out harshly and/or the car getting out of shape. It simply worked properly.

As for outright cornering power, I found it excellent, period. The tires had 41-42 PSI so they were a touch higher than spec, but I like that too. Steering feel was interesting and just a bit odd.

The engine is a 4 cylinder, (Mercedes based I think) , direct injection, turbocharged thing. It sounds and acts like a 4 cyl. The power is adequate, as is the response, with just a hint of lag, with sufficient, but not copious levels of low and mid range torque.

However, the 208HP direct injection/turbo engine sounds and feels exactly like a European Mercedes taxicab diesel or VW diesel at typical cruise RPM of about 1900. It makes a not unpleasant, but unrefined, little growl and has that characteristic BrBrBrBrBrBr noise. Very unlike the typical port injected Japanese 4 cylinders of yesterday. While it has a good torque curve and rev's out nicely, it's simply down on power (or pull) where it counts, in the midrange. To make the car "go" requires 3 downshifts and 5000+ RPM. I'd guess the car will do 0-60 in 7 real-world seconds. As it's not particularly fast off the line.

Strangely, both Ford and GM do a far better job with their 4 cylinder turbo's. As both make far more midrange torque and 80-100 more HP. An Ecoboost Escape, for example, has a more refined engine, with a good bit more "pull" on tap.

Even so, the Q50 was quite a pleasure to drive, and I'm fairly sure a simple "tune" would wake up that little engine.

MPG was another downside. I saw 19MPG in city driving and 25 highway. Even when I set the cruise control and reset the MPG, it's numbers were never much over 30. So, it would take a very cautious driver and below traffic speeds to achieve 30 highway MPG in this car.
 
That's the thing that I simply do not understand. Going to small, 4 cylinder turbo engines in economy oriented cars is one thing, but putting them in, what goes around as premium or luxury brands, and then not providing adequate power and no appreciable fuel savings is simply bonkers IMO. On top of that, why would anyone spend north of $40k for such a vehicle?

Thanks for the review and my reaffirmation to stay away from the glorified econobox engines in such vehicles.
 
Earlier this year I shopped a 328i and ATS. In terms of engine alone, the BMW was fantastic to drive. It was responsive through the rev. range, sounded good, and had adequate power. But at idle with the AC on I could feel the vibration in the steering wheel and my wife said she could feel it in the passenger seat. Considering I can't drive without being stopped with the AC on, I asked myself if I want to pat $XX more per month for that. No, I don't.
The engine in the ATS had good power and was more refined than the BMW however turbo lag was terrible.
Curious if you can relate that experience with the MB 2.0T to mine with the BMW?

(after driving those cars I drove a 340i...WOW...I'm holding out for one of those)
 
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
That's the thing that I simply do not understand. Going to small, 4 cylinder turbo engines in economy oriented cars is one thing, but putting them in, what goes around as premium or luxury brands, and then not providing adequate power and no appreciable fuel savings is simply bonkers IMO.

Agreed. The Q50 weighs about 3,700 lbs, if I'm not mistaken, so it's not light. A small engine is going to have to work extra hard to get any kind of brisk acceleration.

I suppose the point of offering such cars with small engines is to have a more attractive base price point to attract new market segments into dealer showrooms. I think starting price on Q50 is $34K. That's about the same as top of the line Accord. So now all of a sudden, a buyer who was initially considering a lower end car can potentially get himself in a luxury brand for about the same price, even though that luxury car will be slower and may be missing many options/gadgets that a top of the line Accord has.
 
Originally Posted By: gofast182
(after driving those cars I drove a 340i...WOW...I'm holding out for one of those)

Yup. If I had to buy a new car today, 340i would probably be it. Its looks are not particularly great/unique, IMO, but the drivetrain is well sorted out. It's responsive, quick, handles well, and sounds quite refined. I recently drove one back to back with the new Jag XE 3.0 supercharged. The Jag just did not impress me. It was not as engaging, not as communicative, and the engine had this metallic sound to it that I just did not care for. On top of that, interior materials and fit and finish were a mixed bag - some nice touches alongside some cheap plastics and poorly fitting elements. Then again, I'm not a huge fan of current 3-series interiors either.
 
Originally Posted By: Cujet

As for outright cornering power, I found it excellent, period. The tires had 41-42 PSI so they were a touch higher than spec, but I like that too. Steering feel was interesting and just a bit odd.

The engine is a 4 cylinder, (Mercedes based I think) , direct injection, turbocharged thing. It sounds and acts like a 4 cyl. The power is adequate, as is the response, with just a hint of lag, with sufficient, but not copious levels of low and mid range torque.


Strangely, both Ford and GM do a far better job with their 4 cylinder turbo's. As both make far more midrange torque and 80-100 more HP. An Ecoboost Escape, for example, has a more refined engine, with a good bit more "pull" on tap.


I have driven one also. I felt that my 2.0 Turbo Malibu was quicker and just as, if not more, fun to drive.
It gets bad press because of the small back seat. My family and I are small people.
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Then again, I'm not a huge fan of current 3-series interiors either.



shame, the 3er used to be known for one of the nicest and well thought-out interiors
 
Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Then again, I'm not a huge fan of current 3-series interiors either.



shame, the 3er used to be known for one of the nicest and well thought-out interiors

Yup. The older style E36 and E46 interiors are more to my liking, but that's just my personal taste. I'm probably in the minority.
 
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
That's the thing that I simply do not understand. Going to small, 4 cylinder turbo engines in economy oriented cars is one thing, but putting them in, what goes around as premium or luxury brands, and then not providing adequate power and no appreciable fuel savings is simply bonkers IMO. On top of that, why would anyone spend north of $40k for such a vehicle?

Thanks for the review and my reaffirmation to stay away from the glorified econobox engines in such vehicles.


Because rental fleets buy them, and people with no sense but that need to feel "fancy" lease them.

Poor implementation. It's sad because id think that Nissan could make a decent, sporty small car.
 
Drove a Ford Escape all wheel drive with the 2.0 liter turbo and I thought it had plenty of power. This thing was loaded, big moon roof, power tailgate up and down, awd, big wheels, etc. So prob around 3800 lbs I'm guessing with no shortage of power.

The coupe version of the same car has a V6 turbo option with a little over 400 hp. With a 60k base msrp to go along with all that power.

The OP has an S2000 that was turbo charged and I think that's a 2 liter engine.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Because rental fleets buy them, and people with no sense but that need to feel "fancy" lease them.

Yes, Infiniti has been threatening to do this for years with the vehicle. They claimed that, believe it or not, women drivers were a bit intimidated by the power of the 3.7 so they wanted something a little less daunting.
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Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
3,700 lbs car powered by a 2L 208 hp(turbo or not) is sure to be slow. If Q50 is a 2,500 lbs car then the engine is adequate.


Strangely, it's not slow. It pulls nicely and is really fun to drive once well into the rev range. It's just not fast off the line, as it takes a second to build up steam. Won't spin the tires, for example, even with traction control "off" and an open differential.

My S2000 is the 2.2L, with an oversized, laggy turbo. 407RWHP, uncorrected. It's fast, but the big turbo is not responsive.
 
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