I suggest that in 5-10 years the V6 could actually have better resale value. Most trucks are bought today with V8s, so V6 trucks will be less common. Gasoline could be 8 bucks a gallon. The V6 low power stigma will be dead by then. With really high gas prices, a V6 could save serious money every month and be in great demand.
2014 Silverado Double Cab Opinions
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ls1mike
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I think that this 4.3 will make an excellent motor and do a lot of things well. Someone already said it. This motor is evolutionary not revolutionary. It stared with the LS1 in 1997 and they have only made improvements since then. This is an LS motor minus two pistons.
Originally Posted By: dareo
I suggest that in 5-10 years the V6 could actually have better resale value. Most trucks are bought today with V8s, so V6 trucks will be less common. Gasoline could be 8 bucks a gallon. The V6 low power stigma will be dead by then. With really high gas prices, a V6 could save serious money every month and be in great demand.
I don't agree; IMO if gas were to hit $8/gallon people would still buy V8's. They would just park 'em and use 'em more appropriately; and drive something else when they can. Or not buy at all. I say that as, when gas spiked to what, $5 just prior to the crash, people were just starting to drive less in response.
Just my opinion, but I think the market would still stay strong for V8, if only for the prestige. Look at V8 pony cars, the V6 and I4 models just never truly caught on, everyone would rather spend the extra few bucks to have their dream rather than "compromise".
I suggest that in 5-10 years the V6 could actually have better resale value. Most trucks are bought today with V8s, so V6 trucks will be less common. Gasoline could be 8 bucks a gallon. The V6 low power stigma will be dead by then. With really high gas prices, a V6 could save serious money every month and be in great demand.
I don't agree; IMO if gas were to hit $8/gallon people would still buy V8's. They would just park 'em and use 'em more appropriately; and drive something else when they can. Or not buy at all. I say that as, when gas spiked to what, $5 just prior to the crash, people were just starting to drive less in response.
Just my opinion, but I think the market would still stay strong for V8, if only for the prestige. Look at V8 pony cars, the V6 and I4 models just never truly caught on, everyone would rather spend the extra few bucks to have their dream rather than "compromise".
^True for owners that don't really have to have a truck. I was talking about the people who couldn't live/work without it. They have to drive one, and if one is cheaper to drive, they will want it.
Demand for V6 could far outstrip used supply in a high gas price situation. Workers with huge companies will likely buy new trucks but regular small business type contractors will be snatching up a clean V6 fast.
Demand for V6 could far outstrip used supply in a high gas price situation. Workers with huge companies will likely buy new trucks but regular small business type contractors will be snatching up a clean V6 fast.
After reading the pros/cons from this thread and across the interwebz, I think I will take the plunge on a doublecab 6 banger. Nothing fancy....just a 2WT trim, 2 wheel drive, with towing package. Got another question though....these trucks come with a "G80-Locking differential, Rear" (per the spec sheet). Is this just a modern version of the limited slip differential? Anybody know anything about it?
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
People like to make a big deal out of nothing, especially on this forum.
I'm sure the new GM motors are just fine, and my next truck will have one. Besides they have a 5 year 100k warranty so if the motor pops its covered.
I'll get the V6 as well since I want the mileage and have the V6 currently. 285hp is plenty, its not a race car and I have nothing to tow other than an aluminum boat.
I have the old V6 and a truck set up the way I use it, ie 2wd 8ft bed regular cab its plenty. My only complaint is you have to beat the transmission with a stick to get it to downshift. Its very much like driving a 1970's and 80's Mercedes in that regard. Floor it, beg for downshift, beg for downshift...please....and it shifts!
My engine with the new 6spd and would probably be plenty and I have 90hp less than the new 4.3.
I drive 40k a year I need something dependable. I dont want to have to trade ever 2.5 years just cause the warrenty is up. Thats why I am sticking with the proven tech right now.
People like to make a big deal out of nothing, especially on this forum.
I'm sure the new GM motors are just fine, and my next truck will have one. Besides they have a 5 year 100k warranty so if the motor pops its covered.
I'll get the V6 as well since I want the mileage and have the V6 currently. 285hp is plenty, its not a race car and I have nothing to tow other than an aluminum boat.
I have the old V6 and a truck set up the way I use it, ie 2wd 8ft bed regular cab its plenty. My only complaint is you have to beat the transmission with a stick to get it to downshift. Its very much like driving a 1970's and 80's Mercedes in that regard. Floor it, beg for downshift, beg for downshift...please....and it shifts!
My engine with the new 6spd and would probably be plenty and I have 90hp less than the new 4.3.
I drive 40k a year I need something dependable. I dont want to have to trade ever 2.5 years just cause the warrenty is up. Thats why I am sticking with the proven tech right now.
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I see that a 2WT will get you chrome wheels and deep tinted glass as standard equipment.
Those aren't standard on the 1WT, and would be the FIRST thing that I'd get as optional equipment.
I can't stand the look of any double or crew cab pickup without deep tint glass on the back windows and rear window, and it screams "cheap".
But you don't have to worry.
I'd also be checking the box for the $60 LED light strips for the bed.
Those aren't standard on the 1WT, and would be the FIRST thing that I'd get as optional equipment.
I can't stand the look of any double or crew cab pickup without deep tint glass on the back windows and rear window, and it screams "cheap".
But you don't have to worry.
I'd also be checking the box for the $60 LED light strips for the bed.
Originally Posted By: dareo
^True for owners that don't really have to have a truck. I was talking about the people who couldn't live/work without it. They have to drive one, and if one is cheaper to drive, they will want it.
Demand for V6 could far outstrip used supply in a high gas price situation. Workers with huge companies will likely buy new trucks but regular small business type contractors will be snatching up a clean V6 fast.
V6 work trucks last time gas spiked demanded a premium. People who need a truck for work and have to drive them want to reduce their fuel costs.
Than again a lot of contractors are not the brightest bulbs in the box and will put themselves in the poor house running a 10mpg 1 ton 30k miles a year, because of truck.
As soon as times are good they run out and buy a big truck, then when the economy corrects it eats them alive.
^True for owners that don't really have to have a truck. I was talking about the people who couldn't live/work without it. They have to drive one, and if one is cheaper to drive, they will want it.
Demand for V6 could far outstrip used supply in a high gas price situation. Workers with huge companies will likely buy new trucks but regular small business type contractors will be snatching up a clean V6 fast.
V6 work trucks last time gas spiked demanded a premium. People who need a truck for work and have to drive them want to reduce their fuel costs.
Than again a lot of contractors are not the brightest bulbs in the box and will put themselves in the poor house running a 10mpg 1 ton 30k miles a year, because of truck.
As soon as times are good they run out and buy a big truck, then when the economy corrects it eats them alive.
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GM increased their truck prices back in October (~$1500 increase I think). Took me a few days of hunting, but I found a 2WT with a pre-Oct sticker. That means I am getting the 2WT for less than a more recent 1WT. My dad alerted me to look for those older trucks since he just recently purchased a pre-Oct reg cab 2WT at a really good price.
Post up some pics if you get it asap.
Even if gas stays around $3 during the whole ownership of your truck, i don't think you will see much lower resale than the money you save today+gas savings. If you save 1,000 and only $15 a month in gas, and earn 5% return on that you have 2,605.48 at the end of 6 years.
No way it will be 2600 less than the same truck with a V8.
No way it will be 2600 less than the same truck with a V8.
Originally Posted By: Geauxtiger
GM increased their truck prices back in October (~$1500 increase I think). Took me a few days of hunting, but I found a 2WT with a pre-Oct sticker. That means I am getting the 2WT for less than a more recent 1WT. My dad alerted me to look for those older trucks since he just recently purchased a pre-Oct reg cab 2WT at a really good price.
They increased the price, and at the same time offered a $1500 rebate. So, it's a wash for the later models, but would indeed be a bonus for the earlier stickered models.
GM increased their truck prices back in October (~$1500 increase I think). Took me a few days of hunting, but I found a 2WT with a pre-Oct sticker. That means I am getting the 2WT for less than a more recent 1WT. My dad alerted me to look for those older trucks since he just recently purchased a pre-Oct reg cab 2WT at a really good price.
They increased the price, and at the same time offered a $1500 rebate. So, it's a wash for the later models, but would indeed be a bonus for the earlier stickered models.
I'll get pics up over the weekend. OK, I learned of another incentive to purchase the V6 after I started this thread. Cant remember the right number, but GM is offering either $500 or $1000 incentive to purchase the V6 Silverado vs the V8. So, my 'savings' for going with the V6 nets either $1500 or $2000. Makes the V6 choice look even better.
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
I think that this 4.3 will make an excellent motor and do a lot of things well. Someone already said it. This motor is evolutionary not revolutionary. It stared with the LS1 in 1997 and they have only made improvements since then. This is an LS motor minus two pistons.
No it isn't. it's a brand new engine. why did you post that?
I think that this 4.3 will make an excellent motor and do a lot of things well. Someone already said it. This motor is evolutionary not revolutionary. It stared with the LS1 in 1997 and they have only made improvements since then. This is an LS motor minus two pistons.
No it isn't. it's a brand new engine. why did you post that?
Originally Posted By: satinsilver
Have you driven the Tundra lately? I'm not saying I'd buy it over the Silverado but I would be driving both of them to compare. Plus it helps when negotiating. When test driving one truck bring it to the opposing dealer to compare side by side.
do you realize how "non helpful" a reply like that is?
Have you driven the Tundra lately? I'm not saying I'd buy it over the Silverado but I would be driving both of them to compare. Plus it helps when negotiating. When test driving one truck bring it to the opposing dealer to compare side by side.
do you realize how "non helpful" a reply like that is?
What color are you looking at, I like white and blue. White always looks clean after being parked on dusty job sites.
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Originally Posted By: FXjohn
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
I think that this 4.3 will make an excellent motor and do a lot of things well. Someone already said it. This motor is evolutionary not revolutionary. It stared with the LS1 in 1997 and they have only made improvements since then. This is an LS motor minus two pistons.
No it isn't. it's a brand new engine. why did you post that?
Well technically it is derived from the current LT1, which was derived from the LS1, the engine is a clean design from the old 4.3 but uses a standard LT1/LSx design. We have been discussing it for months on the LS boards. So that is why I would say that about it.
4.3
Directly from GM
“Rather than adapting a V6 intended for use in passenger cars, we built a new engine from the ground up based on the unique demands of a truck. Sierra’s 4.3L engine shares its basic design architecture with the latest iterations of the V8 engines that GMC owners have trusted for generations”.
Yes it is new but like I said, has it roots in the LS series of engines. I supposed I simplified it by saying it is an LS minus two pistons. It is more current LT1.
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
I think that this 4.3 will make an excellent motor and do a lot of things well. Someone already said it. This motor is evolutionary not revolutionary. It stared with the LS1 in 1997 and they have only made improvements since then. This is an LS motor minus two pistons.
No it isn't. it's a brand new engine. why did you post that?
Well technically it is derived from the current LT1, which was derived from the LS1, the engine is a clean design from the old 4.3 but uses a standard LT1/LSx design. We have been discussing it for months on the LS boards. So that is why I would say that about it.
4.3
Directly from GM
“Rather than adapting a V6 intended for use in passenger cars, we built a new engine from the ground up based on the unique demands of a truck. Sierra’s 4.3L engine shares its basic design architecture with the latest iterations of the V8 engines that GMC owners have trusted for generations”.
Yes it is new but like I said, has it roots in the LS series of engines. I supposed I simplified it by saying it is an LS minus two pistons. It is more current LT1.
I see, thanks Mike. it should be plenty of motor for most people
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Originally Posted By: FXjohn
I see, thanks Mike. it should be plenty of motor for most people
It is light, some guys are already trying to figure out how to get them for their sand rails. So much better than the old 4.3. DRY INTAKE! Finally. Plus good power from a big V6 as compared to the old 4.3. I loved my old 4.3, but a power house it was not.
I see, thanks Mike. it should be plenty of motor for most people
It is light, some guys are already trying to figure out how to get them for their sand rails. So much better than the old 4.3. DRY INTAKE! Finally. Plus good power from a big V6 as compared to the old 4.3. I loved my old 4.3, but a power house it was not.
2014 Silverado Doublecab with 2WT Package
The pic that shows part of a front tire and fender well was my feeble attempt to show Chevy's new sound-reducing fender well. It is, as best I can describe, a tightly packed felt-like material. It is supposed to help absorb sound and, I think, reduce noise from water spray off of the tires. My trim level only has it on the front. But, higher trim levels have it on the back also. From what I have read, it is not as hard to clean as it may seem. (?). The cab is really quiet and the ride quality, at least for me, strikes a very nice balance....bumps are absorbed nicely, but yet it has enough firmness to provide an impressive level of handling (in my amateur opinion).
Sorry about the poor pic quality....it is a lousy weather day to try to take pics.
The pic that shows part of a front tire and fender well was my feeble attempt to show Chevy's new sound-reducing fender well. It is, as best I can describe, a tightly packed felt-like material. It is supposed to help absorb sound and, I think, reduce noise from water spray off of the tires. My trim level only has it on the front. But, higher trim levels have it on the back also. From what I have read, it is not as hard to clean as it may seem. (?). The cab is really quiet and the ride quality, at least for me, strikes a very nice balance....bumps are absorbed nicely, but yet it has enough firmness to provide an impressive level of handling (in my amateur opinion).
Sorry about the poor pic quality....it is a lousy weather day to try to take pics.
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