2012 Mazda5 One-Month Review

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About a month ago we bought a 2012 Mazda5 with 56,000 miles on Craigslist. We got a good deal on it - there are a couple interior cosmetic issues (read: spilled drinks), but mechanically it seems to be in great shape.

- For a minivan, it's not bad to drive. In cornering, body lean is minimal - at least much much less than my Cobalt or my wife's old Outback. In my wife's words, "When you do a quick maneuver, it makes you feel like a race car driver rather than an idiot."
- Steering effort is pretty light, but there's some feedback through the steering wheel and the effort is pretty linear, so it's not bad. The steering wheel tilts and telescopes (first car I've had with that feature), so it's very easy to get a comfortable driving position.
- Brakes are very communicative and not spongy at all like my Cobalt.
- The throttle pedal took some getting used to. It seems like they try to give the illusion of having more low-end torque by making throttle response nonlinear and biased toward the low end. Before we got winter tires on it, it was very easy to chirp the tires in the wet. I think this is a Mazda thing - my brother's 2008 Mazda3 with the 2.0L engine acts similar.
- As for acceleration, it's about what you'd expect with a 157-hp engine in a nearly 3500-lb vehicle - it's not gonna win any drag races.
- The automatic transmission is the best I've ever driven. It responds very quickly, both for upshifts and downshifts. It nearly always selects the gear I would've if I were shifting. On the highway you wind up at 2000 rpm at 60 mph. It'll stay in gear if you increase the throttle a little bit, such as to maintain speed up a small hill, but will downshift quickly when you put the pedal down. I'll say it again: it's a very nice transmission.
- In the first 3 fuel ups, we've averaged just under 25 mpg, as measured at the pump, with mixed city/highway driving.

- There's plenty of head, foot, and arm room in the first two rows - it really feels fairly cavernous from the driver's seat. The third row, however is fairly tight and only children could sit there comfortably. Which is fine for us, because we only ever intend on having children sit there.
- With the rear seat up, there's enough trunk room for a grocery run if you're OK with stacking things. With the rear seat down, there's ton's of room.
- Interior noise is pretty low - there's some wind noise, but engine noise is very well damped. I'm used to having more auditory feedback in relation to the speed I'm going, and there have been several instances where I've eclipsed the speed limit significantly without realizing it because of how quiet it is.
- It has automatic climate control, which took some getting used to but I like it a lot now, and prefer it over manual.

I don't have a picture of it (and it's covered in road salt now anyhow), but here's a picture from Mazda's website, in the color we have.
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Excellent choice man! Our family has had 4 Mazdas over the years and all have been great cars. I have actually given up BMWS for Mazdas because Mazda (IMHO) is a more sports car driven company. My newest Mazda is a 2013 Mazdaspeed 3 (my 2nd one) and I love it! Speed, utility, frugal with gas, excellent driving dynamics and reliability all add up to great cars. And it has a dipstick, spare tire, jack and lug wrench.
Enjoy your new car !
 
its kind of weird looking but in an ok way. those mazda front ends just look like they are smiling.
 
Its a drive by wire thing.. I wish manufacturers would get of the "cute" tuning.

have the throttle feel like it goes 0-40% in the first 20% of travel is retarded and hostile to driving a stick shift.

then once you get halfway down you are basically done at full throttle.

Feels peppy. Not impressed. I will probably remap mine to be linear after its out of warranty.
 
We are on Mazda number 4 and 5 currently. Wife drives a 2012 Mazda 2 (BTW, a ton of fun to drive) and I have a 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring with the 2.5 engine. Prior ones were an 06 Miata Grand Touring, an 07' Mazda 3 Sport, and Protege 5 wagon.
Loved them all. Already having an internal debate over the next one being a new Mazda 6 or the new Mazda 3.
NEVER a visit to the dealer or shop for any kind of problems. I'm hooked.
 
Originally Posted By: Rand
Its a drive by wire thing.. I wish manufacturers would get of the "cute" tuning.

have the throttle feel like it goes 0-40% in the first 20% of travel is retarded and hostile to driving a stick shift.

then once you get halfway down you are basically done at full throttle.

Feels peppy. Not impressed. I will probably remap mine to be linear after its out of warranty.



I don't think it is just the fault of DBW, with cables and what not you could make tip in aggressive too on the old setups. But otherwise I agree, I hate the aggressive tip in, it makes it harder to drive smoothly.
 
Originally Posted By: NateDN10

- The throttle pedal took some getting used to. It seems like they try to give the illusion of having more low-end torque by making throttle response nonlinear and biased toward the low end. Before we got winter tires on it, it was very easy to chirp the tires in the wet. I think this is a Mazda thing - my brother's 2008 Mazda3 with the 2.0L engine acts similar.


That's odd. My Mazda6 doesn't.

It reminds me of a BMW 528i in Normal mode (not Sport+). The throttle tip in that is. The pedal itself feels like a Japanese top mount pedal, not a bottom hinged pedal. But it is very linear and makes it a bit easier to control in the ice.

Might be a Mazda thing though because my 6 has a Duratec (Ford) engine. Engine management is all Mazda and Denso but it is still a Ford. My previous Mazdas had throttle cables

My wife's former car, a V6 powered Eclipse, had the worst throttle tip in ever. Worse than the above mentioned BMW in Sport+. Look at the pedal wrong and it lurches forward. It does give you the impression that the car is powerful but it is a pain to drive in bad traction conditions. The car has a jumpy throttle but doesn't really do that much more when you hammer it down.
 
Originally Posted By: Spazdog
NateDN10 said:
My wife's former car, a V6 powered Eclipse, had the worst throttle tip in ever. Worse than the above mentioned BMW in Sport+. Look at the pedal wrong and it lurches forward. It does give you the impression that the car is powerful but it is a pain to drive in bad traction conditions. The car has a jumpy throttle but doesn't really do that much more when you hammer it down.


That sounds like the throttle on my old CBR. Riding through parking lots was always a PITA.
 
How comfortable are they? My wife has fibromyalgia and needs something that won't beat her up, but at the same time she enjoys driving zippy cars like the Mazda. Surprisingly she feels that my GTI is magical, which makes me think that the main thing she needs is firm, supportive seats. But she also thinks the last model Camry is also extremely comfortable. The problem with the Camry is that it isn't exactly known for its handling prowess.

I've been thinking that a Mazda could be the answer, but at the same time we'd like a little more horsepower for merging on freeways (where we live can be difficult if you can't get up to speed swiftly, and her Scion doesn't cut it).
 
Originally Posted By: Mykl
How comfortable are they? My wife has fibromyalgia and needs something that won't beat her up, but at the same time she enjoys driving zippy cars like the Mazda. Surprisingly she feels that my GTI is magical, which makes me think that the main thing she needs is firm, supportive seats. But she also thinks the last model Camry is also extremely comfortable. The problem with the Camry is that it isn't exactly known for its handling prowess.

I've been thinking that a Mazda could be the answer, but at the same time we'd like a little more horsepower for merging on freeways (where we live can be difficult if you can't get up to speed swiftly, and her Scion doesn't cut it).


Why not just get her a GTI then?
 
Originally Posted By: glock19
Why not just get her a GTI then?


That's an interesting idea that for some reason I hadn't actually considered. I'll price out some used Golfs and see what I can come up with.
 
Originally Posted By: supton
... But otherwise I agree, I hate the aggressive tip in, it makes it harder to drive smoothly.


Originally Posted By: Spazdog
... It does give you the impression that the car is powerful but it is a pain to drive in bad traction conditions. The car has a jumpy throttle but doesn't really do that much more when you hammer it down.


Well said both, I agree wholeheartedly.

I have also noticed that some new cars have aggressive brake tip in.
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Seriously, it's hard to do gentle braking in such cars.
 
I have to agree with the statement about the automatic transmission. My daughter's '06 mazda3 2.0L 4 spd auto is the smoothes/nicest auto transmission that I've driven. Comparing to my '04 Altima(non CVT) and wife's Lexus. It just resopnds so smoothly and unnoticably between gears to allow the little engine make decent power. I like the way Mazda does this
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Originally Posted By: BearZDefect


I have also noticed that some new cars have aggressive brake tip in.
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Seriously, it's hard to do gentle braking in such cars.


Every 2013 Altima I have ever driven. Okay, my foot is touching the pedal. I will gently depress the brake pedal and WE ARE SLAMMING ON THE BRAKES! Most ridiculously grabby brakes ever.
 
The automatic in a 2.0L CX-5 that I used to drive sometimes, was what an auto should be. Smooth, crisp and more importantly it was consistent and predictable.
 
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