2011 Kia Sportage

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With our kids grown and no real need to keep the minivan, the wife and I are thinking about eventually replacing our '03 MPV. I think we'd probably want to replace it with something that's at least partially as utilitarian as the minivan, only somewhat smaller, and hopefully something that gets better fuel economy.

I think a car is out of the question, but I do think a crossover would fill the bill. The one that's really grabbed my eye recently is the 2011 Kia Sportage. It's a very attractive vehicle inside and out, and it seems to be just about the perfect size for us. There are a couple of things that have me concerned though. We have had nothing but Japanese built vehicles in the family now for almost the last 10 years. My wife has the MPV, myself and my daughter drive Corollas, and my oldest daughter drives a Civic. All have been very reliable vehicles. Having never owned a Korean built vehicle, I'm concerned about how well these vehicles will hold up over the long haul. I've read many good comments about Korean vehicles by owners in forums, and they seem to get pretty good reviews in the magazine tests, but are they really built as well and are as reliable as Japanese vehicles? The last thing I want is to end up with buyer's remorse because of an unreliable vehicle. Since my wife will be the primary driver, I can't have the thing breaking down and leaving her stranded. We would just stick with Japanese vehicles, but they don't seem to currently have any vehicles that are as appealing (unless there are some models I'm overlooking, which is possible).

My other concern is fuel economy. Something doesn't look quite right about the EPA's estimated fuel economy for the Sportage. The Sportage is roughly 700 lbs. lighter than the MPV, and it has a 4 cylinder engine, compared the MPV's v-6, and yet it's only rated for 21 MPG city. Our MPV gets 19 city. One would think the mileage for the Sportage would be considerably better than that of the MPV given the differences in weight and engine size.

We also like the Hyundai Tucson, though not as much as the Sportage, and again, I have the same concerns about this vehicle as I do the Sportage. I'm probably overlooking comparable vehicles by other makes, and please voice your suggestions if you have them, but only vehicles that are comparable in size, price, and fuel economy (even better fuel economy would be great!)
 
I think your biggest concern with a Korean manufacturer should be resale value.

However, if you're replacing a 2003, it doesn't seem that you are the type to trade vehicles often.

I know two people who have Kia's (one is an older Sportage and the other a minivan) and both are literally running the wheels off of them.

Have you also considered a Honda CRV, a Toyota RAV4 or even a Chevy Equinox?
 
I can't say I'd be really worried about reliability versus other manufacturers. Modern Honda and Toyota reliability is nothing to write home about.

Iirc, those can be had with MT, which is how I'd go.
 
grampi, go here all kinds of reading about the Sportage from the first to the current.

http://www.kia-forums.com/kia-sportage-forum/

I don't have a Sportage but have a Rio that runs like a top with no problems since we've owned it. Just regular maintence.

Hope this helps.

BTW, Keep it waxed with Meguiers----------------Just joking, just joking
 
My wife has a 2010 Huyndai Tucson which has the same engine and transmission as the new KIA. It does well on gasoline and have no complaints. She had a 2005 Tucson before this and never had any trouble with it.

Gas mileage is much improved with it over the 2005 because of the new engine and 6 speed automatic transmission.

On some trips doing mixed driving we have gotten close to 30 mpg.

I had a 2007 Santa Fe and again no problems and bought a 2010 last January. No problems with it either.
 
I have two kia's 06 spectra & 08 rio both have been very reliable On the spectra the power steering pump had a very slight leak more like seepage ,dealer replaced no questions asked. On the rio, wheel bearing thats it beside oil and filter changes.
 
mrsilv04

You make a good point about the resale value, and it may just work in our favor. Since we rarely buy new, we could make out like a bandit buying say a year old Sportage. I'm not really woried about the resale value on the backend as we usually keep vehicles so long that we get our money's worth out of them.

The CRV and Rav are just too small for us. I like the Equinox, but comparitively equipped, it's considerably more pricey than the Kia. It does have slightly MPG numbers though.

JHZR2

True, I don't think the newer Hondas and Toyotas are built as well as they used to be, but Mazdas and Subarus are as good as they ever were. A MT won't work for us because my wife doesn't know how to drive one. She's not willing to learn either as I've offered to teach her. a 6 speed auto I think will be just fine!

jcwit

Thanks for the reading!

SrDriver

What kind of city MPGs does your wife's Tucson get? Since the majority of my wife's driving is city, I'm more concerned about city MPGs rather than highway mileage.
 
One other question. Don't all Kias come with a 10 year/100K mile warranty, and is that warranty transferrable to the 2nd owner? (I guess technically that's 2 questions).
 
On Kia and Hyundai, the 5yr/60k bumper to bumper is transferrable to a second owner, the 10year/100k is not.

I just got done small SUV shopping, and really had it down to Tucson/Sportage and Equinox/Terrain. I ended up ordering a 2011 Terrain that I should have mid December.

I stopped to look at a CRV and got right back in the car, RAV 4 doesn't interest me, I wasn't impressed with the CX-7 (although you can get some decent deals on them) and I avoided Nissan because I don't like CVTs.

The Tucson and Sportage are very similar, both are very nice values and I feel that both would be very reliable. The Tucson to me seems to be aimed at a little more upscale market, while the Sportage seems to be aimed at a younger buyer.

The Equinox/Terrain were by far the nicest vehicles I drove, they offered the best ride, best interior and the most features. I found the SLE-2 Terrain had every option that was important to me. Driving them back to back put the Terrain in a completely different category - and they are a couple thousand more and IMO well worth it.

Good luck! You can't go wrong with the Sportage/Tucson/Equinox/Terrain though (IMO)
 
Originally Posted By: dishdude
On Kia and Hyundai, the 5yr/60k bumper to bumper is transferrable to a second owner, the 10year/100k is not.

I just got done small SUV shopping, and really had it down to Tucson/Sportage and Equinox/Terrain. I ended up ordering a 2011 Terrain that I should have mid December.

I stopped to look at a CRV and got right back in the car, RAV 4 doesn't interest me, I wasn't impressed with the CX-7 (although you can get some decent deals on them) and I avoided Nissan because I don't like CVTs.

The Tucson and Sportage are very similar, both are very nice values and I feel that both would be very reliable. The Tucson to me seems to be aimed at a little more upscale market, while the Sportage seems to be aimed at a younger buyer.

The Equinox/Terrain were by far the nicest vehicles I drove, they offered the best ride, best interior and the most features. I found the SLE-2 Terrain had every option that was important to me. Driving them back to back put the Terrain in a completely different category - and they are a couple thousand more and IMO well worth it.

Good luck! You can't go wrong with the Sportage/Tucson/Equinox/Terrain though (IMO)


Who makes the Terrain? Also, did you drive a 2010 or a 2011 Sportage? The two models years are quite different.
 
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Fyi, don't know if you're in a hurry but the new Sportage is due to be fitted with the new 2.0T GDI in Jan. (as posted by a member ) OTOH, the Tuscon will not use the 2.0T.




Not in a hurry at all. The turbo model with undoubtedly have more power, and it'll probably get better fuel economy too. Should be worth the wait.
 
Originally Posted By: grampi
Who makes the Terrain? Also, did you drive a 2010 or a 2011 Sportage? The two models years are quite different.


The Terrain is made by GMC, and yes I did drive the new 2011 Sportage.
 
As other as said, you should not worry about Korean cars quality and reliability. They looked to have improve a lot in recent years.

As for other SUV/CUV, you could look at the Nissan Rogue. They did it a facelift for 2011, so you should get good prices of the 2010 leftovers if you are not that impressed with the changes (it seems you can put the 2011 bumper on 2008-10 Rogue if you are only interested in that part).
Outside look is subjective, but what I like a lot in the car is the quality of assembly inside.
Another thing is that the Rogue is one of the lightest of the CUV, so with the help of the CVT (need some getting use to it to get the best of it), you will get great fuel mileage.
Last thing, from what I read in Rogue forums I frequent, it is a really safe CUV in case you get into an accident.
 
Originally Posted By: CROWNVIC4LIFE
Originally Posted By: grampi
What is CVT?


Continuosly variable transmission.


I'm not familar with that. Is it something new? How do they work?
 
It is simple in principle (think skidoo), but since they add some electronic to it, it improves and complicates things at the same time.

Explanations:
Wikipedia
From the manufacturer itself

I'd rather give you links as I am not sure you will understand my explanation.

Just to let you know that I like it a lot as it gives you a smooth operation and better fuel economy than a conventional auto (close to manual ratings).

Oh, and since you live up north, the AWD system on the Rogue is known to be one of the best one, really reactive. Not as good as the Subaru or Audi system which are permanent, but close behind.
 
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