2011 Cruze, What is the best Dexos oil?

[wolfc70]

Originally Posted By: crinkles
Originally Posted By: HACCOFFICER
I saw Mobil 1 and PP are both now Dexos 1 Approved. I got rid of the Chevy Aveo aka Daewoo POS and bought a 2011 Cruze which requires the Dexos approved oil. I used Valvoline in the Aveo. Between the two major oils that are Dexos approved. Which would you pick? I want full syn and the best protection possible for my new baby.


you do know that the chevy cruze is a rebadged DAEWOO don't you?


I was gonna say the same thing!! The 1.8L is basically a Daewoo D-Tec that was used in many Daewoo vehicles. I believe Opel used the TwinPort name of the same engine. The Cruze was designed by GM Daewoo (nee, GM Korea) and engineered by Opel.

Back on topic; I would run any xW-30. This engine has been sold in the US for more than a few years now, and in pretty much every Country on a global scale. I doubt this engine needs the Dexos oil.

 

[HACCOFFICER]

Originally Posted By: crinkles
Originally Posted By: HACCOFFICER
I saw Mobil 1 and PP are both now Dexos 1 Approved. I got rid of the Chevy Aveo aka Daewoo POS and bought a 2011 Cruze which requires the Dexos approved oil. I used Valvoline in the Aveo. Between the two major oils that are Dexos approved. Which would you pick? I want full syn and the best protection possible for my new baby.


you do know that the chevy cruze is a rebadged DAEWOO don't you?


No sir, the chevy cruze is built in Lordsdale Ohio, the engine is made in Mexico and the transmission is made in australia. Coming from a Chevy badged Daewoo (AVEO), I did my homework on this one. With the chevrolet sonic coming out later in the year. I believe the GM Daewoo brand in the USA is gone. GM spent 315 Mil on retooling the lordsdale plant just for the Cruze. SO, [censored] no its not a GM Daewoo product!

With that said I read that there are Daewoo versions of the Cruze that are manufactured in south korea, however the US Cruze is not, make here in the good old USA. My door even has an american flag sticker on the door that states it was assembled in Lordsdale ohio

 

[Brons2]

It may be screwed together in the US, but it was designed in Korea.

Not that there's anything wrong with that - I drive a Kia.

 

[HACCOFFICER]

Originally Posted By: Brons2
It may be screwed together in the US, but it was designed in Korea.

Not that there's anything wrong with that - I drive a Kia.


There is something wrong if its a GM daewoo vehicle, the aveo I had was poor quality and high maintenance. I vowed to never buy another daewoo product again.

It may be Daewoo designed, but from what I am getting as I looked into it is there are no daewoo parts in it. Daewoo can design it all they want long as they leave there junky [censored] parts out of it.

The 1.8L engine has some pretty impressive features like piston oil cooling jets and some other things I never heard of. the engine is extremely popular and people love it in europe. The quality of the car is the opposite of what I have seen in daewoo vehicles. I am still amazed by the quality.

 

[HACCOFFICER]

Not that anyone cares, and I know we should probably get back on topic........

According to edmunds:

"The Cruze is also a global machine — it was penned at the former Daewoo facility in Incheon, South Korea, while engineering was based at GM's European headquarters in Russelsheim, Germany. But despite the Cruze's foreign roots, U.S. and Canadian versions are built at GM's Lordstown, Ohio, plant."

The only hand daewoo has was designing it. It was engineered in Germany and Built in the USA. According to my research there are no daewoo parts in it. The engine is based on an Opel design but so is many of the ecotec engines, even the one in the cobalt. The only hand Daewoo had in it was design, so to say the cruze is a rebadged Daewoo is highly incorrect.

Sorry for being all defensive. If you owned an Aveo you would understand. Rant off...........

 

[pbm]

Originally Posted By: Ram01
i dont understand by gm requesting Dexos in a chevy cruze with that weak [censored] 1.4vvti turbo motor. the hyundai elantra is a much better car



I test drove both and the Cruze is a higher quality vehicle, IMO.
I'm not saying it will outlast a Hyundai but the fit and finish are superior.
PS: I bought a new Cruze with the 1.4T because I had $4K in GM incentives as a GM card holder and a Buick owner. Even though I bought it in Jan. I still have only 90 miles on the car. I'll start driving it more now that the good weather is coming and I'll post my impressions. The fit and finish far exceed the Cobalt, Cavalier etc..
If it weren't for the incentives I would have bought a Focus.

 

[wolfc70]

Originally Posted By: HACCOFFICER
Not that anyone cares, and I know we should probably get back on topic........

According to edmunds:

"The Cruze is also a global machine — it was penned at the former Daewoo facility in Incheon, South Korea, while engineering was based at GM's European headquarters in Russelsheim, Germany. But despite the Cruze's foreign roots, U.S. and Canadian versions are built at GM's Lordstown, Ohio, plant."

The only hand daewoo has was designing it. It was engineered in Germany and Built in the USA. According to my research there are no daewoo parts in it. The engine is based on an Opel design but so is many of the ecotec engines, even the one in the cobalt. The only hand Daewoo had in it was design, so to say the cruze is a rebadged Daewoo is highly incorrect.

Sorry for being all defensive. If you owned an Aveo you would understand. Rant off...........


Ecotec is just a name. The iron block 1.8l in the Cruze is a Family 1 engine. It is in no way related to the all aluminum 2.2l engine in the Cobalt, which is a Family II engine. The 1.4 in the Cruze is a Family 0 engine. Each family was designed at different points in the past for different purposes.

 

[pbm]

On the back of the Castrol Edge with Syntec Technology 5w30 container it states "meets dexos1 performance requirements". I was under the impression that Castrol was not going to dexos1 certify their oils. I assume this means that Castrol believes this oil meets the certification requirements but they refuse to pay the licensing fee?


On an advertisement comparing this new formulation of (the former black container) Syntec to Edge (the gold container) it states: Target Consumer:
Syntec: "Current user of conventional, high mileage or synthetic blend oils".
Edge: "Current user of synthetic oils".


I'm not exactly sure what to make of that verbiage.

It also states that Edge w/Syntec Technology "maintained maximum horsepower" 30% longer than the former Syntec while Edge maintained it 60% longer.

It's strange (IMO) that Castrol 'targets' Syntec against conventional and semi-synthetic oils and Edge against full synthetics.

 

[dwendt44]

Quote:
On the back of the Castrol Edge with Syntec Technology 5w30 container it states "meets dexos1 performance requirements". I was under the impression that Castrol was not going to dexos1 certify their oils. I assume this means that Castrol believes this oil meets the certification requirements but they refuse to pay the licensing fee?


Correct.
Amsoil and others say something similar: they meet the requirements/specifications. But they haven't been certified/licensed.

 

[fsskier]

This looks like an easy decision to me.

1. DEXOS is a slightly higher standard than GF-5
2. Pennzoil, QS, Mobil 1, others all offer a product that is Dexos certified at competitive prices.
3. Other oils, some that cost more are not DEXOS certified.
4. Bringing your lawyer to argue "Magnuson-Moss" act with your service manager would be a stressful and expensive experience...WHY?

As one who was burned badly by a "non-certified MLM oil" years ago that voided my warranty and cost me a huge amount of money.....yes I considered a lawyer, but the non-certifed lubricant issue soon became dominant.. The dealer had active members in the SCCA (at that time I was also crewing on a formula car) and knew I was using the highly marketed MLM brand....... yeah, I lost. This quickly got quite ugly, I had purchased the oil from my "techy friends" and they quickly determined that "abuse" was the cause, since their product was certainly perfect. There was no abuse, the original tires on that car lasted 80,000 miles!!! Now, both the dealer and the MLM supplier have an argument to explain why your nearly new vehicle has failed, and they both dove for cover, leaving me holding the bag.

Shortly there after the MLM product was reformulated, and flyers were sent to all the sales people about it and "4x times better wear protection" I suspect they were having many other failures also.
Buy the approved oil, you have no reason to search for trouble.

 

[Jehartley]

Originally Posted By: fsskier
This looks like an easy decision to me.

1. DEXOS is a slightly higher standard than GF-5
2. Pennzoil, QS, Mobil 1, others all offer a product that is Dexos certified at competitive prices.
3. Other oils, some that cost more are not DEXOS certified.
4. Bringing your lawyer to argue "Magnuson-Moss" act with your service manager would be a stressful and expensive experience...WHY?

As one who was burned badly by a "non-certified MLM oil" years ago that voided my warranty and cost me a huge amount of money.....yes I considered a lawyer, but the non-certifed lubricant issue soon became dominant.. The dealer had active members in the SCCA (at that time I was also crewing on a formula car) and knew I was using the highly marketed MLM brand....... yeah, I lost. This quickly got quite ugly, I had purchased the oil from my "techy friends" and they quickly determined that "abuse" was the cause, since their product was certainly perfect. There was no abuse, the original tires on that car lasted 80,000 miles!!! Now, both the dealer and the MLM supplier have an argument to explain why your nearly new vehicle has failed, and they both dove for cover, leaving me holding the bag.

Shortly there after the MLM product was reformulated, and flyers were sent to all the sales people about it and "4x times better wear protection" I suspect they were having many other failures also.
Buy the approved oil, you have no reason to search for trouble.





+1

It is so much simpler this way. I have been a user of Amsoil for years, but when I bought my new truck, I just decided that it's time to go with the flow, because cheaper oils that are just as good are available now, and are right down the road. Why tempt fate?

I have tried Quaker State Ultimate Durability, which ran great, and I am now using the new Mobil 1, which is also running great. I was able to run to the store within a few minutes, pay a very reasonable amount, and have awesome oils that GM won't give me a minutes problem over if there is a failure because both oils are on THEIR list. Win, win.

I do miss Amsoil, though.

 

[mrwilmoth]

for the $12.00 they charge for labor at my local dealer (on top of parts) its cheaper to just have them change it for me! Plus I don't have to get dirty and dispose of the oil! (39.95 + tax after rebate)