Pull the oil filter off in a couple hundred miles or less and open it up and see how much stuff is stuck in it. Take pics if you do so all of us can see!
2008 Ford Escape 4 cyl driven w/o oil in it
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Originally Posted By: Klutch9
I agree that they hang down, but IMO this doesn't usually cause a problem. Both of our cars use this filter, and the bumpers still hang lower than the filter. I've measured for FL-400s clearance on my Focus (bigger version of the 910) and it still had room. Not that they can't somehow be ripped off, but you'd pretty much have to take the bumper off on that curb before the filter is even touched.
Never underestimate the abilities of the general public at causing damage to vehicles that break the laws of physics. I have talked to vehicle engineers that say some of the failures they see on returned parts they have no idea how it happened.
I also double checked and Ford does not service any bearings or gaskets on the bottom end of this engine. You can get parts for the head and valvetrain, but anything lower end is only service in a longblock.
I agree that they hang down, but IMO this doesn't usually cause a problem. Both of our cars use this filter, and the bumpers still hang lower than the filter. I've measured for FL-400s clearance on my Focus (bigger version of the 910) and it still had room. Not that they can't somehow be ripped off, but you'd pretty much have to take the bumper off on that curb before the filter is even touched.
Never underestimate the abilities of the general public at causing damage to vehicles that break the laws of physics. I have talked to vehicle engineers that say some of the failures they see on returned parts they have no idea how it happened.
I also double checked and Ford does not service any bearings or gaskets on the bottom end of this engine. You can get parts for the head and valvetrain, but anything lower end is only service in a longblock.
You can get bottom end bearings no problem, just source them outside of Ford. There is a healthy performance aftermarket for these engines, so rebuild parts shouldn't be an issue.
As for the oil filters, assuming a person uses the correct filter, there shouldn't be an issue. I know when these Duratec motors first came out some parts places were using the older focus filter off the Zetec, the FL-400s. These are longer then the correctly speced FL-910, and led to some curb strike issues. Once the word got out however, I don't know of any further issues. Like another poster said, you'd have to pretty much rip off the front bumper and radiator supports before you'd get to the filter. The filter actually sits higher then the subframe, so even if you got the car airborn (which I have
), it wouldn't come crashing down on the filter.
As for the noise, its hard to tell. The audio in that video is pretty distorted. It honestly sounds like bottom end noise to me, however it could also be the injectors. Its just too distorted IMO. I live with injector tick everyday on my focus, and it sounds nothing like that...but like I said, the audio is a bit distorted.
As for the oil filters, assuming a person uses the correct filter, there shouldn't be an issue. I know when these Duratec motors first came out some parts places were using the older focus filter off the Zetec, the FL-400s. These are longer then the correctly speced FL-910, and led to some curb strike issues. Once the word got out however, I don't know of any further issues. Like another poster said, you'd have to pretty much rip off the front bumper and radiator supports before you'd get to the filter. The filter actually sits higher then the subframe, so even if you got the car airborn (which I have
), it wouldn't come crashing down on the filter.As for the noise, its hard to tell. The audio in that video is pretty distorted. It honestly sounds like bottom end noise to me, however it could also be the injectors. Its just too distorted IMO. I live with injector tick everyday on my focus, and it sounds nothing like that...but like I said, the audio is a bit distorted.
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Originally Posted By: addyguy
Just out of curiosity, what oil did you put in for the first post-repair fill?
Mobil Super 5000. Two qts of 5W20 and a little over 2 & 1/2 qts of 5W30. So I guess it sort of has 5W26 in it or thereabouts.
As far as the sound quality in the vid, I used a Canon PowerShot SX100 camera, which is not a video cam but a photo cam with an avi video function. Mic is not the best I guess.
Just out of curiosity, what oil did you put in for the first post-repair fill?
Mobil Super 5000. Two qts of 5W20 and a little over 2 & 1/2 qts of 5W30. So I guess it sort of has 5W26 in it or thereabouts.
As far as the sound quality in the vid, I used a Canon PowerShot SX100 camera, which is not a video cam but a photo cam with an avi video function. Mic is not the best I guess.
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