Originally Posted By: Vspec
*scratch that above post, I made it rather aburptly and decided to expand*
I'd give you that stock the Cobalt drives very well and the STi has some decent body roll, however in the defense of both the STi and the EVO, driving them is a different world from FWD or RWD especially on a track. In most situations where I would usually lift off the throttle in a FWD or RWD car, with AWD you have to stay planted in it, and usually give it more throttle to pull out, its like when the 2004 STi came to the states, due to the type of differential the car employed (suretrac) alot of review websites gave it harsh handling ratings because you need to stick it to the floor, rather then lift off and get body roll and understeer.
Not to mention if you take either care to the next level with modifications the Cobalt can no longer compare by any means. The AWD through cornors with a experienced driver makes chumpchange of most FWD cars and some RWD cars too, and you can bet that almost every subaru enthusiast that may track his or her car will have it modified.
Heres some good proof of what solid modifications can do for the platform.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH44Nb6Pf2A
Theres my proof, not a online review site. STi vs Z06 Vette.
A *stock* Z06 vette has done the Nurburgring in 7:42, a stock STi wouldn't stand a chance. Now you bring up - wait 'til it's modified. There's lots of people modifying all kinds of cars, not just Subarus and you can find videos of Miatas out lapping 911s at race tracks. Driver is the biggest factor, tires are the second. We're talking huge factors and variables even before modifications begin.... apples to oranges
The Car and Driver results are apples to apples tests. Take the stock cars the manufactures provide and wring them out same day, same track, same experienced drivers, to see what their best hot-lap potential is. And of course in the Car and Driver test the *base* Corvette, with the ~$1,700 Z51 option absolutely destroys(almost 19 seconds/lap!!!) the Subaru STi even worse than the Cobalt rips the STi. Just like it does at the Nurburgring.
See results here:
http://www.caranddriver.com/content/down...008+Results.pdf
*scratch that above post, I made it rather aburptly and decided to expand*
I'd give you that stock the Cobalt drives very well and the STi has some decent body roll, however in the defense of both the STi and the EVO, driving them is a different world from FWD or RWD especially on a track. In most situations where I would usually lift off the throttle in a FWD or RWD car, with AWD you have to stay planted in it, and usually give it more throttle to pull out, its like when the 2004 STi came to the states, due to the type of differential the car employed (suretrac) alot of review websites gave it harsh handling ratings because you need to stick it to the floor, rather then lift off and get body roll and understeer.
Not to mention if you take either care to the next level with modifications the Cobalt can no longer compare by any means. The AWD through cornors with a experienced driver makes chumpchange of most FWD cars and some RWD cars too, and you can bet that almost every subaru enthusiast that may track his or her car will have it modified.
Heres some good proof of what solid modifications can do for the platform.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH44Nb6Pf2A
Theres my proof, not a online review site. STi vs Z06 Vette.
A *stock* Z06 vette has done the Nurburgring in 7:42, a stock STi wouldn't stand a chance. Now you bring up - wait 'til it's modified. There's lots of people modifying all kinds of cars, not just Subarus and you can find videos of Miatas out lapping 911s at race tracks. Driver is the biggest factor, tires are the second. We're talking huge factors and variables even before modifications begin.... apples to oranges
The Car and Driver results are apples to apples tests. Take the stock cars the manufactures provide and wring them out same day, same track, same experienced drivers, to see what their best hot-lap potential is. And of course in the Car and Driver test the *base* Corvette, with the ~$1,700 Z51 option absolutely destroys(almost 19 seconds/lap!!!) the Subaru STi even worse than the Cobalt rips the STi. Just like it does at the Nurburgring.
See results here:
http://www.caranddriver.com/content/down...008+Results.pdf
