What engine does a 2007 Colbalt LT have in it?
2007 Cobalt LT
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2.2L Ecotec.
Is the 2.2L Ecotec a good engine?
Which Cobalts came with the 2.4L or 2.0L engines?
Which Cobalts came with the 2.4L or 2.0L engines?
these are fantastic engines. of course GM loses money on the Cobalt, the only good car they make, and so they are discontinuing it.
They make huge money on trucks and SUV's, but don't realize how stupid and short sighted this is, so they are going to go bank rupt as a company, while Honda, Toyota, Subaru, are all thriving, by making tiny cars, the size of Cobalts, with engines similar to the Cobalt. How can the Japanese make money at it and Americans lose money at it: simple, for the Japanese it is a matter of national pride to be frugal, whereas the American is proud to be huge and wasteful. As a result, the American is turning into a dinosaur. This is the result of a worker who just goes to work to collect a pay cheque. The US worker should GO ON STRIKE, and DEMAND that GM make a small practical car, and DEMAND from the government to impose taxes on guzzlers, and tax breaks on small cars, that will break the US dependence on foreign oil. Instead everyone is just counting their fat pay cheques, from the line worker to the CEO, from the war profiteer, to the oil executive, while the goose that laid the golden egg is being cooked for dinner.
They make huge money on trucks and SUV's, but don't realize how stupid and short sighted this is, so they are going to go bank rupt as a company, while Honda, Toyota, Subaru, are all thriving, by making tiny cars, the size of Cobalts, with engines similar to the Cobalt. How can the Japanese make money at it and Americans lose money at it: simple, for the Japanese it is a matter of national pride to be frugal, whereas the American is proud to be huge and wasteful. As a result, the American is turning into a dinosaur. This is the result of a worker who just goes to work to collect a pay cheque. The US worker should GO ON STRIKE, and DEMAND that GM make a small practical car, and DEMAND from the government to impose taxes on guzzlers, and tax breaks on small cars, that will break the US dependence on foreign oil. Instead everyone is just counting their fat pay cheques, from the line worker to the CEO, from the war profiteer, to the oil executive, while the goose that laid the golden egg is being cooked for dinner.
Look at the UOA results posted here! I'd say the Ecotec family of engines is GMs best. In fact, racing teams use a lot of factory parts.
The 2.0L Ecotec currently comes in the SS version and is turbocharged. The 2.4L use to come in the 4 door SS I believe but now comes in the Sport models. All others get the 2.2L.
I'm impressed so much with these engines that my next vehicle purchase will likely be either a Cobalt or a Malibu with the 2.4L.
The 2.0L Ecotec currently comes in the SS version and is turbocharged. The 2.4L use to come in the 4 door SS I believe but now comes in the Sport models. All others get the 2.2L.
I'm impressed so much with these engines that my next vehicle purchase will likely be either a Cobalt or a Malibu with the 2.4L.
Originally Posted By: scoobie
these are fantastic engines. of course GM loses money on the Cobalt, the only good car they make, and so they are discontinuing it.
They make huge money on trucks and SUV's, but don't realize how stupid and short sighted this is, so they are going to go bank rupt as a company, while Honda, Toyota, Subaru, are all thriving, by making tiny cars, the size of Cobalts, with engines similar to the Cobalt. How can the Japanese make money at it and Americans lose money at it: simple, for the Japanese it is a matter of national pride to be frugal, whereas the American is proud to be huge and wasteful. As a result, the American is turning into a dinosaur. This is the result of a worker who just goes to work to collect a pay cheque. The US worker should GO ON STRIKE, and DEMAND that GM make a small practical car, and DEMAND from the government to impose taxes on guzzlers, and tax breaks on small cars, that will break the US dependence on foreign oil. Instead everyone is just counting their fat pay cheques, from the line worker to the CEO, from the war profiteer, to the oil executive, while the goose that laid the golden egg is being cooked for dinner.
Why would they go on strike for a small practical car?
Americans LOVE big cars and SUVs and they love alot of power.
The government charging you because they do not like the car your driving dose not sound like a free nation.
Whats next, taxing on people who use to much heating oil, to much water, not recycling the way the government sees fit, breathing to much air.
The car makers along with the governments wishes, could make cars more efficient. In 20 years im sure they will be.
But taxing someone for there car choice sounds a bit like a commie idea.
Also, I do not see how the cobalt is GMs "only good car they make"
Its there bottom of the line econo car.
Yes Americans are proud to be huge. Wasteful is not a thing we aim for, but it was a outcome of being huge.
That same pride got us to be a World super power in less then 300 years. While countries like Egypt, ect. . . that have been around for many 100s of years, are where they are.(no offence to Egypt)
Yes Americans are not the most "eco-friendly" people.
these are fantastic engines. of course GM loses money on the Cobalt, the only good car they make, and so they are discontinuing it.
They make huge money on trucks and SUV's, but don't realize how stupid and short sighted this is, so they are going to go bank rupt as a company, while Honda, Toyota, Subaru, are all thriving, by making tiny cars, the size of Cobalts, with engines similar to the Cobalt. How can the Japanese make money at it and Americans lose money at it: simple, for the Japanese it is a matter of national pride to be frugal, whereas the American is proud to be huge and wasteful. As a result, the American is turning into a dinosaur. This is the result of a worker who just goes to work to collect a pay cheque. The US worker should GO ON STRIKE, and DEMAND that GM make a small practical car, and DEMAND from the government to impose taxes on guzzlers, and tax breaks on small cars, that will break the US dependence on foreign oil. Instead everyone is just counting their fat pay cheques, from the line worker to the CEO, from the war profiteer, to the oil executive, while the goose that laid the golden egg is being cooked for dinner.
Why would they go on strike for a small practical car?
Americans LOVE big cars and SUVs and they love alot of power.
The government charging you because they do not like the car your driving dose not sound like a free nation.
Whats next, taxing on people who use to much heating oil, to much water, not recycling the way the government sees fit, breathing to much air.
The car makers along with the governments wishes, could make cars more efficient. In 20 years im sure they will be.
But taxing someone for there car choice sounds a bit like a commie idea.
Also, I do not see how the cobalt is GMs "only good car they make"
Its there bottom of the line econo car.
Yes Americans are proud to be huge. Wasteful is not a thing we aim for, but it was a outcome of being huge.
That same pride got us to be a World super power in less then 300 years. While countries like Egypt, ect. . . that have been around for many 100s of years, are where they are.(no offence to Egypt)
Yes Americans are not the most "eco-friendly" people.
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Indeed.
Small cars are for people who want, like or NEED small cars.
I drive a 20 year old BIG car. I like big cars. I have a big family. That's not wasteful nor ignorant, and I do not like the idea that somebody feels I should be TAXED because I drive a LARGER vehicle than them.
Completely goes against the very ideals that North American society is based upon.
Japan is a TINY country; it's smaller than Nova Scotia! When your COUNTRY has a huge population and tiny land mass, how would one EVER expect that they would DESIRE large vehicles? Canada and the United States are IMMENSE land masses, with long, straight highways that are more comfortably travelled by people in numbers, in larger, more spacious vehicles. This is why we had Station Wagons and Mini Vans......
You cannot contrast, with any respect for common sense, Japan's NEED, and thus success at producing small cars, to North America's desire and use of larger vehicles. It has been FUEL prices that have driven North Americans away from larger vehicles, NOT a desire for small cars; those that DO desire smaller cars are the minority, hence past sales of SUV's and vans.
This is why we see Japanese auto manufacturers producing LARGE trucks and SUV's!! The Sequoia, Pilot, RAV4....etc.
Small cars are for people who want, like or NEED small cars.
I drive a 20 year old BIG car. I like big cars. I have a big family. That's not wasteful nor ignorant, and I do not like the idea that somebody feels I should be TAXED because I drive a LARGER vehicle than them.
Completely goes against the very ideals that North American society is based upon.
Japan is a TINY country; it's smaller than Nova Scotia! When your COUNTRY has a huge population and tiny land mass, how would one EVER expect that they would DESIRE large vehicles? Canada and the United States are IMMENSE land masses, with long, straight highways that are more comfortably travelled by people in numbers, in larger, more spacious vehicles. This is why we had Station Wagons and Mini Vans......
You cannot contrast, with any respect for common sense, Japan's NEED, and thus success at producing small cars, to North America's desire and use of larger vehicles. It has been FUEL prices that have driven North Americans away from larger vehicles, NOT a desire for small cars; those that DO desire smaller cars are the minority, hence past sales of SUV's and vans.
This is why we see Japanese auto manufacturers producing LARGE trucks and SUV's!! The Sequoia, Pilot, RAV4....etc.
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Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Indeed.
Small cars are for people who want, like or NEED small cars.
I drive a 20 year old BIG car. I like big cars. I have a big family. That's not wasteful nor ignorant, and I do not like the idea that somebody feels I should be TAXED because I drive a LARGER vehicle than them.
Completely goes against the very ideals that North American society is based upon.
Japan is a TINY country; it's smaller than Nova Scotia! When your COUNTRY has a huge population and tiny land mass, how would one EVER expect that they would DESIRE large vehicles? Canada and the United States are IMMENSE land masses, with long, straight highways that are more comfortably travelled by people in numbers, in larger, more spacious vehicles. This is why we had Station Wagons and Mini Vans......
You cannot contrast, with any respect for common sense, Japan's NEED, and thus success at producing small cars, to North America's desire and use of larger vehicles. It has been FUEL prices that have driven North Americans away from larger vehicles, NOT a desire for small cars; those that DO desire smaller cars are the minority, hence past sales of SUV's and vans.
This is why we see Japanese auto manufacturers producing LARGE trucks and SUV's!! The Sequoia, Pilot, RAV4....etc.
+1
I have been to Ireland and England. They do not have SUVs, and pick ups. They have very small cars.
Just for the simple reason that there roads are very badly designed. Dublin city has sidewalks for streets!!! its a need for small cars in tight roads and cities not a want for econo reasons. Just like in Town centers of China and Japan.
The Asian car makers know USA loves big cars, the new 4 door Honda Accord,Toyota Camry, Hyundai Genesis, Toyota Tacoma, Nissan Maxima, Nissan Titan, ECT . . . are all Made for the big loving Americans.
I drive a big Lincoln V8. Its comfortable, powerfull, and I can hit a wall going 60MPH with out blowing my knees through my radiator.
Indeed.
Small cars are for people who want, like or NEED small cars.
I drive a 20 year old BIG car. I like big cars. I have a big family. That's not wasteful nor ignorant, and I do not like the idea that somebody feels I should be TAXED because I drive a LARGER vehicle than them.
Completely goes against the very ideals that North American society is based upon.
Japan is a TINY country; it's smaller than Nova Scotia! When your COUNTRY has a huge population and tiny land mass, how would one EVER expect that they would DESIRE large vehicles? Canada and the United States are IMMENSE land masses, with long, straight highways that are more comfortably travelled by people in numbers, in larger, more spacious vehicles. This is why we had Station Wagons and Mini Vans......
You cannot contrast, with any respect for common sense, Japan's NEED, and thus success at producing small cars, to North America's desire and use of larger vehicles. It has been FUEL prices that have driven North Americans away from larger vehicles, NOT a desire for small cars; those that DO desire smaller cars are the minority, hence past sales of SUV's and vans.
This is why we see Japanese auto manufacturers producing LARGE trucks and SUV's!! The Sequoia, Pilot, RAV4....etc.
+1
I have been to Ireland and England. They do not have SUVs, and pick ups. They have very small cars.
Just for the simple reason that there roads are very badly designed. Dublin city has sidewalks for streets!!! its a need for small cars in tight roads and cities not a want for econo reasons. Just like in Town centers of China and Japan.
The Asian car makers know USA loves big cars, the new 4 door Honda Accord,Toyota Camry, Hyundai Genesis, Toyota Tacoma, Nissan Maxima, Nissan Titan, ECT . . . are all Made for the big loving Americans.
I drive a big Lincoln V8. Its comfortable, powerfull, and I can hit a wall going 60MPH with out blowing my knees through my radiator.
Originally Posted By: scoobie
these are fantastic engines. of course GM loses money on the Cobalt, the only good car they make, and so they are discontinuing it.
They make huge money on trucks and SUV's, but don't realize how stupid and short sighted this is, so they are going to go bank rupt as a company, while Honda, Toyota, Subaru, are all thriving, by making tiny cars, the size of Cobalts, with engines similar to the Cobalt. How can the Japanese make money at it and Americans lose money at it: simple, for the Japanese it is a matter of national pride to be frugal, whereas the American is proud to be huge and wasteful. As a result, the American is turning into a dinosaur. This is the result of a worker who just goes to work to collect a pay cheque. The US worker should GO ON STRIKE, and DEMAND that GM make a small practical car, and DEMAND from the government to impose taxes on guzzlers, and tax breaks on small cars, that will break the US dependence on foreign oil. Instead everyone is just counting their fat pay cheques, from the line worker to the CEO, from the war profiteer, to the oil executive, while the goose that laid the golden egg is being cooked for dinner.
Ugh. All this anti-Americanism and whining about GM is already way past old. People need to give it a rest already. If you don't understand the cultural difference between Japan and the US, and the way their companies do business, then you'll never get it.
these are fantastic engines. of course GM loses money on the Cobalt, the only good car they make, and so they are discontinuing it.
They make huge money on trucks and SUV's, but don't realize how stupid and short sighted this is, so they are going to go bank rupt as a company, while Honda, Toyota, Subaru, are all thriving, by making tiny cars, the size of Cobalts, with engines similar to the Cobalt. How can the Japanese make money at it and Americans lose money at it: simple, for the Japanese it is a matter of national pride to be frugal, whereas the American is proud to be huge and wasteful. As a result, the American is turning into a dinosaur. This is the result of a worker who just goes to work to collect a pay cheque. The US worker should GO ON STRIKE, and DEMAND that GM make a small practical car, and DEMAND from the government to impose taxes on guzzlers, and tax breaks on small cars, that will break the US dependence on foreign oil. Instead everyone is just counting their fat pay cheques, from the line worker to the CEO, from the war profiteer, to the oil executive, while the goose that laid the golden egg is being cooked for dinner.
Ugh. All this anti-Americanism and whining about GM is already way past old. People need to give it a rest already. If you don't understand the cultural difference between Japan and the US, and the way their companies do business, then you'll never get it.
I'm considering going to look at an SS this weekend. I love to car shop and often do it when it's not even a necessity. But now is probably the BEST time to buy a car. GM is giving them away. Well, SUVs more than small cars, but their prices seem very good on everything right now.
Originally Posted By: scoobie
these are fantastic engines. of course GM loses money on the Cobalt, the only good car they make, and so they are discontinuing it.
The Cobalt will be replaced by the Chevy Cruze.
Chevrolet Cruze
these are fantastic engines. of course GM loses money on the Cobalt, the only good car they make, and so they are discontinuing it.
The Cobalt will be replaced by the Chevy Cruze.
Chevrolet Cruze
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Originally Posted By: Johnny
Is the 2.2L Ecotec a good engine?
Which Cobalts came with the 2.4L or 2.0L engines?
Johnny, I have had my 2007 Cobalt for over a year and love it. Mine is the more basic LS model (roll up windows, no power locks, no cruise). It's an excellent little car.
Is the 2.2L Ecotec a good engine?
Which Cobalts came with the 2.4L or 2.0L engines?
Johnny, I have had my 2007 Cobalt for over a year and love it. Mine is the more basic LS model (roll up windows, no power locks, no cruise). It's an excellent little car.
Then why did GM lose 2.5 Billion dollars the last quarter, and GM stock is back to the value of the 1950's. Because it's a severely mismanaged company. Your manufacturing sector is bleeding jobs, and the unemployment rate is the highest in 15 years. If you want to be prosperous, you need to be SMART, is all I'm saying. If you want to be stupid, like the Easter Islanders, and CUT DOWN EVERY LAST TREE ON THE ISLAND, then be my guest. Your country has only been a world power since the end of WWii,because Europe was devastated. The Europeans are smart, and tax oil heavily. This encourages the people to be SMART, and you will find the standard of living in Europe is excellent, with health benefits for everyone, free prescription drugs, old age pensions, etc. Huge cars are a quick way to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. You obviously don't care about your children, or you would not be squandering their inheritance.
If you cared about your children, you would be interested in making sure that there were good high paying jobs for them to do, in the manufacturing sector, making small efficient cars that people want to drive. I drive an Impreza, not because I'm anti-American, and I'm not anti-American, I'm anti stupidity, and I drive the Impreza, because it is the best d@$mn car that money can buy, it has the highest safety rating, yes, even higher than your Town Car, it has stability control, all time AWD, the shortest stopping distance of any production vehicle, and the STI will leave your Shelby in the dust, and do circles around it in the winter when all other cars have spun off the road.
If you cared about your children, you would be interested in making sure that there were good high paying jobs for them to do, in the manufacturing sector, making small efficient cars that people want to drive. I drive an Impreza, not because I'm anti-American, and I'm not anti-American, I'm anti stupidity, and I drive the Impreza, because it is the best d@$mn car that money can buy, it has the highest safety rating, yes, even higher than your Town Car, it has stability control, all time AWD, the shortest stopping distance of any production vehicle, and the STI will leave your Shelby in the dust, and do circles around it in the winter when all other cars have spun off the road.
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And kill you when you get run over by a transport, Excursion, F-250/350/450/550, Dodge 1500,2500,3500 or Chevy 1500,2500,3500....etc. Small car vs large truck isn't going to matter much how fantastic your safety rating is when the bumper is at the level of your WINDSHIELD.
I'm a fellow Canadian by the way, and what's going on south of the border does indeed affect us up here as well. Oshawa is a good example, with GM being the bread and butter of that area....
I don't work in manufacturing, nobody in my family does. I'm an Network Engineer, and come from a family of engineers and teachers. We don't do "grunt work" (at anything other than the hobby level), not that I knock those that do, but I'm hardly squandering the inheritance of my children driving a car that's 20 years old. My father owns four income properties worth a substantial amount of money and drives an '03 Town Car, sounds like he's squandering MY inheritance right?
Nobody drives a Shelby in the winter. A 1967 Shelby is worth about as much as TEN STI's. A Shelby is a collectors item, not a "tuner" car like the STI.
If you want to compare a car's performance to that of the STi, feel free to compare the 03/04 Cobra, who's STOCK engine can handle 1,000HP.
Some comparison figures ('04 STi vs '03/04 Cobra)
Stock STi runs 13.1. Stock Termi has gone 12.26.
Stock STi pulls .91G's on the skid-pad, stock Termi is .90G's
Stock STi stops in 110ft from 60Mph, stock Termi is 116ft
Both are very capable cars, similarly moddable, with a similar price-tag, with the Termi holding the obvious power-making advantage in stock form, especially when stipulating stock-internals.
As far as the Impreza being the best car one can buy, well, I'm sure M5 owners would disagree. I'm sure people with large families would disagree and for the commuter looking for the best fuel mileage possible, that they would disagree. It's all relative.
Ford made a car like the Imprezza many years ago (80's), it was the RS200 Cosworth. 650HP (capable; race-trim) Turbo 4-cylinder, AWD. Popular in Europe until a lot of spectators died when accidents due to the cars flying off the track put a damper on things.....
BTW, the shortest STOCK stopping distance I could find is the BMW M3, in 100ft; 10ft shorter than the STi.
I'm a fellow Canadian by the way, and what's going on south of the border does indeed affect us up here as well. Oshawa is a good example, with GM being the bread and butter of that area....
I don't work in manufacturing, nobody in my family does. I'm an Network Engineer, and come from a family of engineers and teachers. We don't do "grunt work" (at anything other than the hobby level), not that I knock those that do, but I'm hardly squandering the inheritance of my children driving a car that's 20 years old. My father owns four income properties worth a substantial amount of money and drives an '03 Town Car, sounds like he's squandering MY inheritance right?
Nobody drives a Shelby in the winter. A 1967 Shelby is worth about as much as TEN STI's. A Shelby is a collectors item, not a "tuner" car like the STI.
If you want to compare a car's performance to that of the STi, feel free to compare the 03/04 Cobra, who's STOCK engine can handle 1,000HP.
Some comparison figures ('04 STi vs '03/04 Cobra)
Stock STi runs 13.1. Stock Termi has gone 12.26.
Stock STi pulls .91G's on the skid-pad, stock Termi is .90G's
Stock STi stops in 110ft from 60Mph, stock Termi is 116ft
Both are very capable cars, similarly moddable, with a similar price-tag, with the Termi holding the obvious power-making advantage in stock form, especially when stipulating stock-internals.
As far as the Impreza being the best car one can buy, well, I'm sure M5 owners would disagree. I'm sure people with large families would disagree and for the commuter looking for the best fuel mileage possible, that they would disagree. It's all relative.
Ford made a car like the Imprezza many years ago (80's), it was the RS200 Cosworth. 650HP (capable; race-trim) Turbo 4-cylinder, AWD. Popular in Europe until a lot of spectators died when accidents due to the cars flying off the track put a damper on things.....
BTW, the shortest STOCK stopping distance I could find is the BMW M3, in 100ft; 10ft shorter than the STi.
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As far as handling:
Nurburgring Times:
2009 Viper: 7:22.1
2009 Corvette ZR1: 7:22.4
2009 Nissan GT-R: 7:29
Ford GT: 7:40.6
BMW M3: 7:50
Cadillac CTS-V: 7:59
Audi R8: 8:04
WRX STi Spec-C: 8:06
2004 Subaru Impreza: 8:24
Nurburgring Times:
2009 Viper: 7:22.1
2009 Corvette ZR1: 7:22.4
2009 Nissan GT-R: 7:29
Ford GT: 7:40.6
BMW M3: 7:50
Cadillac CTS-V: 7:59
Audi R8: 8:04
WRX STi Spec-C: 8:06
2004 Subaru Impreza: 8:24
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Also, 2003+ Town Car, Crown Vic and Grand Marquis got a "G" on the IIHS test, the same as the Impreza.
Leg/Foot (left) was "A" (acceptable) on the Townie
"Safety Cage" got an "A" (acceptable) on the Subaru for side-impact.
Neither one is markedly superior in terms of safety than the other.
Leg/Foot (left) was "A" (acceptable) on the Townie
"Safety Cage" got an "A" (acceptable) on the Subaru for side-impact.
Neither one is markedly superior in terms of safety than the other.
Originally Posted By: scoobie
Then why did GM lose 2.5 Billion dollars the last quarter, and GM stock is back to the value of the 1950's. Because it's a severely mismanaged company. Your manufacturing sector is bleeding jobs, and the unemployment rate is the highest in 15 years. If you want to be prosperous, you need to be SMART, is all I'm saying. If you want to be stupid, like the Easter Islanders, and CUT DOWN EVERY LAST TREE ON THE ISLAND, then be my guest. Your country has only been a world power since the end of WWii,because Europe was devastated. The Europeans are smart, and tax oil heavily. This encourages the people to be SMART, and you will find the standard of living in Europe is excellent, with health benefits for everyone, free prescription drugs, old age pensions, etc. Huge cars are a quick way to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. You obviously don't care about your children, or you would not be squandering their inheritance.
If you cared about your children, you would be interested in making sure that there were good high paying jobs for them to do, in the manufacturing sector, making small efficient cars that people want to drive. I drive an Impreza, not because I'm anti-American, and I'm not anti-American, I'm anti stupidity, and I drive the Impreza, because it is the best d@$mn car that money can buy, it has the highest safety rating, yes, even higher than your Town Car, it has stability control, all time AWD, the shortest stopping distance of any production vehicle, and the STI will leave your Shelby in the dust, and do circles around it in the winter when all other cars have spun off the road.
Well since you know everything, I guess eyeryone should go out and buy a Impreza.
O0o0o yes GMs poor buisness managment is USAs fault.
Europe living is great for ones with money. I have personally been in down town Dublin in Ireland, and many cities in England. They have slums and problems just like USAs.
I love you have a Impreza because your "anti-stupdity". I see you mean everyone else on this forum is "stupid" for not driving a small impreza.
Perhaps a Impreza forum will be better for your narrow mind.
You keep talking about were killing the goose that laid the egg.
I am not sure what your talking about.
It cant be fuel, since we have yet to put a dent in the massive amount of oil on this planet.
Not to mention all the new alternatives to oil use coming out.
GMs issues are there issues. Not USAs. You have a problem, write them!!!
"Your country has only been a world power since the end of WWii,because Europe was devastated. The Europeans are smart, and tax oil heavily"
I love this statement. Europe was devastated so there smart because they tax oil.
Look at the price of gas in europe compared to USA. Then tell me whos smart. USA dose not tax the people alot of money because it dose not do anything for the people.
Your ideas are fine, but calling people "stupid" for not following your ideas is not welcomed by me. Especially from some one with 70 some posts.
Then why did GM lose 2.5 Billion dollars the last quarter, and GM stock is back to the value of the 1950's. Because it's a severely mismanaged company. Your manufacturing sector is bleeding jobs, and the unemployment rate is the highest in 15 years. If you want to be prosperous, you need to be SMART, is all I'm saying. If you want to be stupid, like the Easter Islanders, and CUT DOWN EVERY LAST TREE ON THE ISLAND, then be my guest. Your country has only been a world power since the end of WWii,because Europe was devastated. The Europeans are smart, and tax oil heavily. This encourages the people to be SMART, and you will find the standard of living in Europe is excellent, with health benefits for everyone, free prescription drugs, old age pensions, etc. Huge cars are a quick way to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. You obviously don't care about your children, or you would not be squandering their inheritance.
If you cared about your children, you would be interested in making sure that there were good high paying jobs for them to do, in the manufacturing sector, making small efficient cars that people want to drive. I drive an Impreza, not because I'm anti-American, and I'm not anti-American, I'm anti stupidity, and I drive the Impreza, because it is the best d@$mn car that money can buy, it has the highest safety rating, yes, even higher than your Town Car, it has stability control, all time AWD, the shortest stopping distance of any production vehicle, and the STI will leave your Shelby in the dust, and do circles around it in the winter when all other cars have spun off the road.
Well since you know everything, I guess eyeryone should go out and buy a Impreza.
O0o0o yes GMs poor buisness managment is USAs fault.
Europe living is great for ones with money. I have personally been in down town Dublin in Ireland, and many cities in England. They have slums and problems just like USAs.
I love you have a Impreza because your "anti-stupdity". I see you mean everyone else on this forum is "stupid" for not driving a small impreza.
Perhaps a Impreza forum will be better for your narrow mind.
You keep talking about were killing the goose that laid the egg.
I am not sure what your talking about.
It cant be fuel, since we have yet to put a dent in the massive amount of oil on this planet.
Not to mention all the new alternatives to oil use coming out.
GMs issues are there issues. Not USAs. You have a problem, write them!!!
"Your country has only been a world power since the end of WWii,because Europe was devastated. The Europeans are smart, and tax oil heavily"
I love this statement. Europe was devastated so there smart because they tax oil.
Look at the price of gas in europe compared to USA. Then tell me whos smart. USA dose not tax the people alot of money because it dose not do anything for the people.
Your ideas are fine, but calling people "stupid" for not following your ideas is not welcomed by me. Especially from some one with 70 some posts.
I think the same mind that built the USA suburbs, and the same mind that was behind pushing the giant Cadillac and SUV, is the same mind that cut down the last tree on Easter Island. And if you cannot learn from history, then you are doomed to repeat it. I for one, would like to leave a liveable planet for my children, and leave them a country with a prosperous economy, where they can find jobs and prosper themselves. The price of gas is very high in Europe, because they place a value on their future. Americans only live for the present = their motto = "what? me worry?" We pave over our farm land, so we can live in McMansions. What - grow food, I thought that comes from supermarkets. I'm not calling people stupid for not following my ideas, I'm saying that if people do not think, then they will be out of jobs. And a man without a job is like a dog.
You still didn't answer why sales of Subaru Foresters are at an all time high, and GM cannot even sell its Hummer Division to the Chinese, who are flush with US cash after selling us their cheap cr#%p in China-Mart. (Hint, they are not that stupid).
You still didn't answer why sales of Subaru Foresters are at an all time high, and GM cannot even sell its Hummer Division to the Chinese, who are flush with US cash after selling us their cheap cr#%p in China-Mart. (Hint, they are not that stupid).
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Paul Hogan isn't doing the commercials anymore, thus the increase in sales?
And just to quench any stereotypes, not all Canadians think Americans are morons who love to consume excessive amounts of fuel because of it's "rock bottom" price compared to Europe, and love to pave parking lots over every farm field they see.
As we rape the Albertan oil sands, cut the BC pines, pollute lake Ontario and build our own "McMansion" equivalents around the GTA, I don't think the general consensus is that what is going on up here is vastly different (nor superior) from what is going on south of the border......
Regardless of what scoobie seems to be trying to convey here. Don't worry folks, Canada is not Europe! Though some apparently wish it were?
And just to quench any stereotypes, not all Canadians think Americans are morons who love to consume excessive amounts of fuel because of it's "rock bottom" price compared to Europe, and love to pave parking lots over every farm field they see.
As we rape the Albertan oil sands, cut the BC pines, pollute lake Ontario and build our own "McMansion" equivalents around the GTA, I don't think the general consensus is that what is going on up here is vastly different (nor superior) from what is going on south of the border......
Regardless of what scoobie seems to be trying to convey here. Don't worry folks, Canada is not Europe! Though some apparently wish it were?
Canada and USA is basically run by the same group of oligarchy goons, and we're stupid enough to elect our very own "Bush-lite" prime minister Harper, in order to serve the oligarchy.
I don't like to think of people as morons. That would be disrespectful. People's thinking has been subverted and manipulated by mass media, education has been watered down, schools are where people learn not to think, and as a result, the place is going to H*(l in a Handbasket. What is needed, is for the internets to become a place for thinking to flourish, and for ideas to change from a concept to a reality. That is how BHO was able to get elected, a black half-rican, who first defeated the system candidate Clinton, and then massively defeated an old white war hero prisoner of war married to the rich elite ruling class.
I don't like to think of people as morons. That would be disrespectful. People's thinking has been subverted and manipulated by mass media, education has been watered down, schools are where people learn not to think, and as a result, the place is going to H*(l in a Handbasket. What is needed, is for the internets to become a place for thinking to flourish, and for ideas to change from a concept to a reality. That is how BHO was able to get elected, a black half-rican, who first defeated the system candidate Clinton, and then massively defeated an old white war hero prisoner of war married to the rich elite ruling class.
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