2005 Chevy Silverado.... drum brakes?

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I just bought a 2005 Silverado 1500 HD crew cab and it has discs all the way around on it. Maybe you need to upgrade to the HD to get discs on the rear
 
I have 99 S-10 4x4 with rear discs and I wish I HAD DRUM BRAKES! In 53,000 miles I have turned the rotors twice, replaced the pads and calipers and had to work on the parking brake twice. My Dad's 89 K1500 has 125,000 and the rear drum brakes have never been touched.
 
The discs on the new 1/2 ton dodges are cheap thin mercedes car crap. They warp the 1st time they get hot. Nice thing is they unbolt ez, you toss em and buy news ones that are fairly inexpensive.

Antilock braking needs 4 discs, disc are actully cheaper to put on than drums (unless you have a bunch of old drum stock laying around). E brakes on discs are a quick way to warp a rotor, don't use it if its not needed. The cam acting leverage and surface area of a drum makes it better to get big weight slowed down.
 
Most trucks only need rear ABS and there is no compelling reason to use rear discs except for the expectations of customers that dont know better. A well-designed rear disc setup has a separate drum parking brake. This extra parts count cannot be justified in a low-priced vehicle.
 
Wiley, you can have ABS with rear drums, but this is not too common.

Typcally, you'll have front discs/rear drums and a three-channel ABS setup: front wheels controlled independently, and the rears controlled together.

If I'm not mistaken, some trucks with cost-cutting rear-only ABS can have drums as well, and this would be a one-channel ABS setup.
 
GM went to 4 channel ABS on most of their cars in 1992. This includes the smaller ones with rear drums that make a lot of sense for them. I have gone through 14 winters with that set up, and it works well, very well. I am not sure about the trucks, but I expect you must go elsewhere for 3 channel compromises.

I am not even sure FRONT disks are that important now. In the 60's, most cars had 14'' wheels or even 13'' leaving very little room for drums. Now wheels are much bigger leaving more room for drums. With ABS to keep the thing pointed straight, and drums self actuating effect, maybe we could drop power booster for the brakes in the smaller cars. Of course, the image problem would be huge.

Not everybody wants to put money into features that mostly are needed to boost image.
 
Every 91-96 GM B-Body came with 3 channel ABS as a standard feature, whether rear-disc or not. The D-Body(Fleetwood) had 4-channel with drums.

The 3-channel works pretty well. Saved my car, maybe even my life, at least once.

Had a guy turn left in front of me during a pass on a 2 lane highway. With the ABS engaged, I made a full effort turn with him onto a rural backroad. There is no way I could have made that evasive action without ABS. It was just too close as it was. I was sold...

Have had a few other evasives that were no problem, that would have been nail-biters, otherwise
 
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Originally posted by labman:
GM went to 4 channel ABS on most of their cars in 1992. This includes the smaller ones with rear drums that make a lot of sense for them.

I stand corrected - good info to know
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I had a 94 Grand Cherokee with rear drums...bad idea... that probably why I got into that accident.

I got the 95 Grand with 4 wheel disks. It stops on a dime! It's a large difference. The rear disks are just as easy to maintain as the rear drums. Actually, they have been better. Dad changed the pads as a precausion when I went to school this past year and when he pulled them off, they were fine.
 
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