2005 Accord Smoke

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Originally Posted By: mechtech2
The flush worked.
What probably happened is that the valve seals/stems/guides were cleaned and now have a bit more clearance. More oil is flowing through them.


Exactly. People will naturally try to blame the flush, when all the flush did is remove the "material" build up at the seals.
 
But Buster has run only syns (I think) so how much "crud" could there be in his engine?
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Esp in the head area with things like valve guide seals?

Just wondering...

Sorry to hear you are having some concerns with the Accord. Is the smoke real dark? I had a 1971 F250 that had real issues with valve guides and when it started (first over night and towards the end everytime) it let out a BIG DARK cloud..

Bill
 
Bill - his engine probably is fairly visually clean, but if he's been burning oil since day one, I'll bet the valve stems are not super pretty. It doesn't take much clearance either way.
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Bill - his engine probably is fairly visually clean, but if he's been burning oil since day one, I'll bet the valve stems are not super pretty. It doesn't take much clearance either way.


Interesting. The reason why I ask is my Corolla does use some oil (depending on what brand and type I use anywhere from almost a quart 5k to 1/3 qt same miles) and I'm not seeing anything. This engine is the first one that I have had that does use something more than just a few OZ per OCI...

Thanks!
 
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
It'll go away.


Funny, because it did. This morning, no smoke. I'll keep an eye on it.
 
I think the flush actually worked. I'm going to follow up with one more flush using the new Amsoil flush and replace with either a HM oil, or PU.

Bill, the smoke had a very faint blue tint to it.

Thanks for all the input guys.
 
Question for you buster, did you drop the factory fill early ? I know the motor in my prelude has a world known oil consumption problem but no blue smoke at all.

But my car barely consumes oil, 250ml (1/4 qt ?) of oil for the entire 6-8k KM I push the PP. The only smoke I get is sometimes black (fuel?) when I'm pushing it close to redline :) (a little redline for a good time!)

My car was initially owned by a woman, so it most likely had the factory fill until the red light on the dash told her it was time to change it.

Just doing some research to add to my stats.
 
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Hi Mau. I drained the OEM oil out at 5,000 miles.

For break-in, i really didn't do much WOT. The two cars I owned that never consumed oil, where both broken in aggressively. I kind of lean towards thinking that engines should be broken-in somewhat hard, to full seat the rings. Especially the oil control ring.

The Honda saw a lot of stop/go driving during break-in with 300 miles driven over a two day period. This was about 5 years ago.

As I said before, the car runs great. Extremely quiet. I think the engine flush cleaned up around the vale seals. That's my best guess so far.

I'm going to continue to monitor the smoke in the morning. It may have been a 3 day event. lol
 
From someone on the Honda forums. I hope this Amsoil flush didn't do any harm. I highly doubt it did.

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The engine flush probably destroyed the valve stem seals.

Adding stuff like that in an already well maintained car is asking for trouble.
The chemicals in it probably hardened the seals. Hopefully it had no effect on the front and rear main oil seals.

Even though you pour it in and drain it, due to the design of the head, the stuff will sit and soak on the valves as it's slower to drain around that area.

You should start to see oil usage. If you see blue smoke on cold starts, that's probably what happened.

I'd also expect to see issues with the timing chain guides, I'm sure the plastic they use isn't too appreciative of that stuff.
 
Originally Posted By: buster
From someone on the Honda forums. I hope this Amsoil flush didn't do any harm. I highly doubt it did.

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The engine flush probably destroyed the valve stem seals.

Adding stuff like that in an already well maintained car is asking for trouble.
The chemicals in it probably hardened the seals. Hopefully it had no effect on the front and rear main oil seals.

Even though you pour it in and drain it, due to the design of the head, the stuff will sit and soak on the valves as it's slower to drain around that area.

You should start to see oil usage. If you see blue smoke on cold starts, that's probably what happened.

I'd also expect to see issues with the timing chain guides, I'm sure the plastic they use isn't too appreciative of that stuff.


That's a crock. The fact the blue smoke stopped proves it. Aside from that all the cars I've used it on had fine seals that lasted for 100's of thousands of miles!
 
Real question is why did you feel the need to add a flush chemical to your engine if you are keeping up with oil changes using a quality oil like a good BITOG member should?????

I have 249,000 miles on my 32 valve quad cam v8 using redline and the engine is clean as new without ever resorting to additives, flushes, or other such nonsense.
 
I have seen a few of the 2.4 engines that burn oil, but visible smoke would be a new one. Maybe it was residual flush chemical burning off.
 
Originally Posted By: qship1996
Real question is why did you feel the need to add a flush chemical to your engine if you are keeping up with oil changes using a quality oil like a good BITOG member should?????

I have 249,000 miles on my 32 valve quad cam v8 using redline and the engine is clean as new without ever resorting to additives, flushes, or other such nonsense.


I don't feel the need for flushing. The only time I do it is when changing an engine over from convetional, and lack of maintenance. If buster would have asked I would have said basically the same as you did. No need.

Well the smoking has stopped, so let's see if his consumption stays low.
 
I've had a bottle of Amsoil engine flush for awhile now, so I decided to use it. I figured it can't hurt.
 
Since he was burning oil for so long, flushing was a good idea. I'd have just used some kero, but nonetheless I suspect the engine is now in a better state. I suggest some HM oil. Try some 2-cycle oil in the fuel and see how consumption is now. I suspect it will be reduced. If not, try a piston soak and or a intake cleaning.

Good to hear things are back on track.
 
I guess it's possible, but the coolant level is still fine.
 
Smoke is a light white color. No blue tint. Happened this morning. It goes away in about 15 seconds. ???
 
White smoke is usually condensation, and this time of the year is pretty obvious where I live.
 
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