2004 Passat question

[Dieselbob]

I am doing some work on a 2004 VW Passat with the 2.8 V6 for a friend and he wants the oil changed. I looked up to see what oil is reccomended and have gotten conflicting answers. I have come up with 5W40 Syn, 0W40 Syn, and 5W30 Syn, and that the oil must meet VW 502. I also was told the engine held 6.5 quarts, but nowhere near that much came out when I drained it. The owner is clueless, and the owner's manual is missing. Can anybody shed some light on this?

 

[Corvette Owner]

I would go to Amsoil website, I have found them correct for everything.

Note the difference in oil capacity for FWD and AWD ! Also note the special fill instructions ( use .. 1/2 quart less and run engine before adding all oil).

Here is what they say:

2004 - VOLKSWAGEN - PASSAT - 2.8L 6-cyl Engine Code ATQ
LUBRICANTS & FLUIDS:
Engine Oil
Grade 1......SEO[1]

Synthetic 5W-40 European Oil (EFMQT)

Performance AMSOIL European Car Formula 100% Synthetic 5W-40 Motor Oil (AFLQT)
All TEMPS......5W-30, 5W-40
Manual Transmission,012 (5-SPD)......GL-4
All TEMPS......75W-90 [2]
Synthetic Manual Transmission and Transaxle Gear Lube (75W-90) API GL-4 (MTGQT)
Automatic Transmission,01V......AE [3]
Synthetic Multi-Vehicle Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATFQT)
Differential, Rear......GL-4
All TEMPS......75W-90 [4]
Synthetic Manual Transmission and Transaxle Gear Lube (75W-90) API GL-4 (MTGQT)
Differential, Front......GL-4
All TEMPS......75W-90 [5] [6]
Synthetic Manual Transmission and Transaxle Gear Lube (75W-90) API GL-4 (MTGQT)
Transfer Case,4 Motion......GL-4
All TEMPS......75W-90 [6]
Synthetic Manual Transmission and Transaxle Gear Lube (75W-90) API GL-4 (MTGQT)
Fluids
Clutch Fluid......HBH
AMSOIL Brake Fluid DOT-4 (BF4SN)
Brake Fluid......HBH
AMSOIL Brake Fluid DOT-4 (BF4SN)
Clutch Fluid......
No AMSOIL Product Recommendation
Power Steering Fluid......PS
Power Steering Fluid (PSFCN)
[1] Use engine oil meeting Volkswagen Oil Standard 502 00
[2] VW part no. G 052 911 A1 (synthetic), or equivalent
[3] VW part no. G 052 162 A2
[4] Audi part no. G 052 145 S2 or equivalent
[5] Final drive for Automatic transmission only.
[6] VW part no. G 052 145 (synthetic), or equivalent
FILTERS:
Oil Filter MANN Oil Filter (W93021)
Air Filter Absolute Efficiency Air Filter (EAA239)
Air Filter MANN Air Filter (C26168)
Cabin Air Filter MANN Cabin Air Filter (CU2882) [1]
Fuel Filter MANN Fuel Filter (WK8307)
Transmission Filter WIX 58609 Auto Tran Filter
[1] Not all models may be outfitted with a cabin air filter. Please verify before ordering.
NGK PLUGS AND WIRESETS:
GPSERIES PLUG BKR6EGP NGK7092
IXIRIDIUM PLUG BKR6EIX NGK6418
PREMIUMPLATINUM PLUG BKR6EQUP * NGK3199
STANDARD PLUG BKR6EKUB
VPOWER PLUG BKR6E NGK6962
WIRESET WIRESET RC-VWC036 NGK57055
WIPER BLADES:
Blade Class Driver Passenger Rear
ExactFit T2112 T1912 T151
NeoForm T162112 [1] T161912 [1] T37150
[1] OE Design
CHASSIS LUBRICATION:
0 Fittings, 0 Plugs
CAPACITIES:
Engine, AWD, with filter..........5.3 quarts [1]
Engine, FWD, with filter..........6.3 quarts [1]
Cooling System, Initial Fill..........8.5 quarts
AMSOIL Antifreeze and Engine Coolant
Automatic Transmission, 01V Initial Fill..........2.7 quarts
Automatic Transmission, Total Fill
5 speed 01V..........9.5 quarts
Manual Transmission, 012 (5-SPD)..........4.9 pints
Differential, Front..........1.5 pints [2]
Differential, Rear..........3.2 pints
Transfer Case, 4 motion..........1.7 pints
[1] To prevent overfilling during oil changes, add 0.5 liter
(0.5 quart) less than capacity shown, start engine, let run
until engine operating temperature is approx. 60 °C (140 °F)
, switch engine off, wait 3 minutes, check dipstick,
fill to full mark as indicated on dipstick (may be more or
less than 0.5 liter (0.5 quart) depending on model).
[2] Final drive for Automatic transmission only.
TORQUES:
Oil Drain Plug.....22 ft/lbs
Manual Transmission 012/01W
Fill Plug 18 ft/lbs
Drain Plug NA ft/lbs
Manual Transmission 02M
Fill Plug 22 ft/lbs
Drain Plug NA ft/lbs

 

[bigjl]

You will never know if the oil capacity it the same as what came out unless you checked the oil before draining it.

Though in my experience lots of cars take little less oil than in the book.

In the UK I have I my ever seen the 2.8 v6 engine in the fourmotion model and then I would use 0w40 Mobil 1 New Life.

Though I suspect any 5w40 with the appropriate VW spec would be equally as good.

I personally wouldn't drop to a 5w30 in this era of VW vehicle unless it was on the extended drain interval service schedule as then I have seen it is sometimes specced up with a low saps 5w30.

I think the VW oil spec for extended drain servicing is different than the one you mention.

incidentally the extended drain interval in Europe is 30k km or two years, normal interval is 15k km's or one year.

Posted at the same time as previous poster.

They never had the fwd version of the 2.8 v6 in Europe, but I take it the reduced quantity mentioned would indicate the one you are talking about is a FWD.

 

[scurvy]

Mobil 1 0w40 is a good choice albeit pricey.

Were it my Passat, I would rest easy with Shell Rotella T6 5w40 in the sump. 502.00 is not a modern or difficult oil specification.

 

[Trav]

Mobil 1 0w40, good stuff, meets the specs, sleep well!

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: Dieselbob
I have come up with 5W40 Syn, 0W40 Syn, and 5W30 Syn, and that the oil must meet VW 502.

The SAE grade is not as important as meeting the VW 502.00 spec. Stick with any oil that meets this spec and you'll be golden.

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I also was told the engine held 6.5 quarts, but nowhere near that much came out when I drained it.

Was the car low on oil at the time?