My '07 Corolla, with largely the same engine, LOVED Havoline Deposit Shield (same as Chevron Supreme). The Havoline DS is a pretty thin 5w30 to begin with, so it'd work well with her short trips. Even a Purolator Classic filter would be just fine, but with the relatively low cost of a PureOne these days, that would certainly work also.
2002 Toyota Corolla
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Originally Posted By: Gene K
2-3 mile trips cry out for a low viscosity oil. I would use Toyota 0W-20 (Mobil supplied but cheaper) and pull annual samples with a pump. Change when analysis says to.
If you cant bring yourself to deviate from the manual I would go with whichever SM/SN 5W30 you can get the cheapest every 12 months.
Actually Toyota has backed spec'd their 0W-20 for use in the 2002 Corolla and that's what I'd recommend as well. Castrol Edge 0W-20 and Honda's 0W-20 would be two alternates.
2-3 mile trips cry out for a low viscosity oil. I would use Toyota 0W-20 (Mobil supplied but cheaper) and pull annual samples with a pump. Change when analysis says to.
If you cant bring yourself to deviate from the manual I would go with whichever SM/SN 5W30 you can get the cheapest every 12 months.
Actually Toyota has backed spec'd their 0W-20 for use in the 2002 Corolla and that's what I'd recommend as well. Castrol Edge 0W-20 and Honda's 0W-20 would be two alternates.
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Originally Posted By: Gene K
2-3 mile trips cry out for a low viscosity oil. I would use Toyota 0W-20 (Mobil supplied but cheaper) and pull annual samples with a pump. Change when analysis says to.
If you cant bring yourself to deviate from the manual I would go with whichever SM/SN 5W30 you can get the cheapest every 12 months.
Actually Toyota has backed spec'd their 0W-20 for use in the 2002 Corolla and that's what I'd recommend as well. Castrol Edge 0W-20 and Honda's 0W-20 would be two alternates.
Actually, they back spec'd the 2006 and newer Corollas for 5W-20, but I can't imagine it not working in a 2002 Corolla with the same engine. The 0W-20 was spec'd for the 2AZ-FE engine.
http://www.rensports.com/store/pictures/eneos/toyotabulletin.pdf
Originally Posted By: Gene K
2-3 mile trips cry out for a low viscosity oil. I would use Toyota 0W-20 (Mobil supplied but cheaper) and pull annual samples with a pump. Change when analysis says to.
If you cant bring yourself to deviate from the manual I would go with whichever SM/SN 5W30 you can get the cheapest every 12 months.
Actually Toyota has backed spec'd their 0W-20 for use in the 2002 Corolla and that's what I'd recommend as well. Castrol Edge 0W-20 and Honda's 0W-20 would be two alternates.
Actually, they back spec'd the 2006 and newer Corollas for 5W-20, but I can't imagine it not working in a 2002 Corolla with the same engine. The 0W-20 was spec'd for the 2AZ-FE engine.
http://www.rensports.com/store/pictures/eneos/toyotabulletin.pdf
If its using some oil now, I would just stick with 5W30 and with her low annual mileage, use a decent dino and change it once a year.
The car in question is a 2003. It was the 09-02 Corollas (8th gen) that are know as oil burners (in many, but not every case). I wouldn't be surprised to see any granny driven and maintained 7 year old car using a little oil, regardless. Some 9th gen will use it more toward the end of the OCI, simply from the oil beginning to breakdown over time and/or mileage. Another reason I'd stick with the spec'd 5W30, as it should have a higher HTHS than the same brand 5W20.
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The car in question is a 2003. It was the 09-02 Corollas (8th gen) that are know as oil burners (in many, but not every case). I wouldn't be surprised to see any granny driven and maintained 7 year old car using a little oil, regardless. Some 9th gen will use it more toward the end of the OCI, simply from the oil beginning to breakdown over time and/or mileage. Another reason I'd stick with the spec'd 5W30, as it should have a higher HTHS than the same brand 5W20.
-Spyder
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Originally Posted By: hate2work
Actually, they back spec'd the 2006 and newer Corollas for 5W-20, but I can't imagine it not working in a 2002 Corolla with the same engine. The 0W-20 was spec'd for the 2AZ-FE engine.
http://www.rensports.com/store/pictures/eneos/toyotabulletin.pdf
Not the same motor as far as capacity of the engine in motor oil. The 2006+ held almost .6 qts MORE oil than the 1998-2005. Since we know that the dipstick is shorter which makes the engine hold more oil did they change anything else? (ie windage trays or such?)
As an owner of a 2005, I'll stick with what works well. 5w30 of any type (API-SL/SM/SN) and get on with it. Will 5w-20 work? Most likely but I'd not gain anything using it.
Take care, bill
Actually, they back spec'd the 2006 and newer Corollas for 5W-20, but I can't imagine it not working in a 2002 Corolla with the same engine. The 0W-20 was spec'd for the 2AZ-FE engine.
http://www.rensports.com/store/pictures/eneos/toyotabulletin.pdf
Not the same motor as far as capacity of the engine in motor oil. The 2006+ held almost .6 qts MORE oil than the 1998-2005. Since we know that the dipstick is shorter which makes the engine hold more oil did they change anything else? (ie windage trays or such?)
As an owner of a 2005, I'll stick with what works well. 5w30 of any type (API-SL/SM/SN) and get on with it. Will 5w-20 work? Most likely but I'd not gain anything using it.
Take care, bill
Of course the advantages of using Toyota's 0W-20 are many not the least of which is being 35% lighter at room temp' and 50% at 0C.
Toyota has back spec'd the 0W-20 to the 2000 model year for the Corolla.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/2145556/
Toyota has back spec'd the 0W-20 to the 2000 model year for the Corolla.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/2145556/
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Toyota has back spec'd the 0W-20 to the 2000 model year for the Corolla.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/2145556/
I would not say that definitively based on that chart full of errors.
Toyota has back spec'd the 0W-20 to the 2000 model year for the Corolla.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/2145556/
I would not say that definitively based on that chart full of errors.
Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
For what it's worth, my wife has the same car with 66k reliable miles on it so far.
It also uses a quart of oil between changes, and it never did that with the GTX.
Oil consumption in my early 03 Corolla started at the same mark. I blamed it on running oil midway between full and low, but it could be a coincidence. I also run mostly PYB.
For what it's worth, my wife has the same car with 66k reliable miles on it so far.
It also uses a quart of oil between changes, and it never did that with the GTX.
Oil consumption in my early 03 Corolla started at the same mark. I blamed it on running oil midway between full and low, but it could be a coincidence. I also run mostly PYB.
Hey, I'm back to talk about the Corolla again. The odometer is just over 21000 miles now.
So...my MIL's Corolla is about 11 months into the change I did with M1 5W30 and a PureOne. The engine has not used any oil btw.
She has just under 950 miles on this change (about 95 miles a month!) so I am beginning to think about changing it again in November.
By then she might have 1050 miles on the oil.
I have been calculating her GPM since I also keep it filled with gas. Get this, about 17 mpg! Probably because she just drives it down the street to K Mart and the grocery store 3 or 4 times a week.
I'm a little concerned with fuel dilution, the oil smells OK though, so I'm thinking I should change it annually even though the oil "looks" good.
This time I will use M1 0W30, since I use that in my Prius. Less oil for me to keep inventoried.
Going over a year might be a mistake, given the MPG, lack of engine warm up.
What do you guys think? Keep it in or get rid of it at 1 year?
So...my MIL's Corolla is about 11 months into the change I did with M1 5W30 and a PureOne. The engine has not used any oil btw.
She has just under 950 miles on this change (about 95 miles a month!) so I am beginning to think about changing it again in November.
By then she might have 1050 miles on the oil.
I have been calculating her GPM since I also keep it filled with gas. Get this, about 17 mpg! Probably because she just drives it down the street to K Mart and the grocery store 3 or 4 times a week.
I'm a little concerned with fuel dilution, the oil smells OK though, so I'm thinking I should change it annually even though the oil "looks" good.
This time I will use M1 0W30, since I use that in my Prius. Less oil for me to keep inventoried.
Going over a year might be a mistake, given the MPG, lack of engine warm up.
What do you guys think? Keep it in or get rid of it at 1 year?
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Why not just use conventional oil and save the expensive stuff for your car? Any oil should work just fine. Also check the tires for dry rot assuming they are probably original. My Grandpa had similar driving habits and we did yearly oil changes on his Chrysler Lebaron which had 24K miles after 14 years. We never had any major issues with the car and my sister and I put 100K on it in years 15-20 after grandpa traded up to a truck. We ended up losing that car to a flood.
Originally Posted By: Oldwolf
Hey, I'm back to talk about the Corolla again. The odometer is just over 21000 miles now.
So...my MIL's Corolla is about 11 months into the change I did with M1 5W30 and a PureOne. The engine has not used any oil btw.
She has just under 950 miles on this change (about 95 miles a month!) so I am beginning to think about changing it again in November.
By then she might have 1050 miles on the oil.
I have been calculating her GPM since I also keep it filled with gas. Get this, about 17 mpg! Probably because she just drives it down the street to K Mart and the grocery store 3 or 4 times a week.
I'm a little concerned with fuel dilution, the oil smells OK though, so I'm thinking I should change it annually even though the oil "looks" good.
This time I will use M1 0W30, since I use that in my Prius. Less oil for me to keep inventoried.
Going over a year might be a mistake, given the MPG, lack of engine warm up.
What do you guys think? Keep it in or get rid of it at 1 year?
Have you had it out on the highway to get it up to Temp? Wonder what the MPG would be then.
Hey, I'm back to talk about the Corolla again. The odometer is just over 21000 miles now.
So...my MIL's Corolla is about 11 months into the change I did with M1 5W30 and a PureOne. The engine has not used any oil btw.
She has just under 950 miles on this change (about 95 miles a month!) so I am beginning to think about changing it again in November.
By then she might have 1050 miles on the oil.
I have been calculating her GPM since I also keep it filled with gas. Get this, about 17 mpg! Probably because she just drives it down the street to K Mart and the grocery store 3 or 4 times a week.
I'm a little concerned with fuel dilution, the oil smells OK though, so I'm thinking I should change it annually even though the oil "looks" good.
This time I will use M1 0W30, since I use that in my Prius. Less oil for me to keep inventoried.
Going over a year might be a mistake, given the MPG, lack of engine warm up.
What do you guys think? Keep it in or get rid of it at 1 year?
Have you had it out on the highway to get it up to Temp? Wonder what the MPG would be then.
short trips like these, oil sees more oil contamination due to unburned fuel (frequent cold starts), water from condensation, etc.
Why waste premium synthetic motor oil in this situation when an ordinary motor oil should work nicely?
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Why waste premium synthetic motor oil in this situation when an ordinary motor oil should work nicely?
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Someguy – the tires are about 6 years old now. Tread is OK but I have been thinking about some new ties for it.
Mark_Walk – This car has never been on the highway in its life. But I should take it out now and then and so an Italian Tuneup.
Quest - For less than $2 a quart more, it holds 3.6 qts, I can go with synthetic. Don’t you think with all the cold starts a 0WXX might be best?
Mark_Walk – This car has never been on the highway in its life. But I should take it out now and then and so an Italian Tuneup.
Quest - For less than $2 a quart more, it holds 3.6 qts, I can go with synthetic. Don’t you think with all the cold starts a 0WXX might be best?
Originally Posted By: Oldwolf
Quest - For less than $2 a quart more, it holds 3.6 qts, I can go with synthetic. Don’t you think with all the cold starts a 0WXX might be best?
noted.
I, for one, don't seem to care too much about the extra advantage of using 0Wxx vs 5W30/5W20 even though occasionally, our winter here in Beaverland would dip down to -20C.
Cold start wear is pretty much over-rated ( I lived in the deep northern parts before were trying to cold start a carb'ed Suzuki 3-banger @ -36C w/o block heater was the norm).
mineral will do the job just fine (friend's dad bought a factory maintained/city driven corolla with over 230kkms and compression is good, no oil burning, passing aircare checks, etc.)
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Quest - For less than $2 a quart more, it holds 3.6 qts, I can go with synthetic. Don’t you think with all the cold starts a 0WXX might be best?
noted.
I, for one, don't seem to care too much about the extra advantage of using 0Wxx vs 5W30/5W20 even though occasionally, our winter here in Beaverland would dip down to -20C.
Cold start wear is pretty much over-rated ( I lived in the deep northern parts before were trying to cold start a carb'ed Suzuki 3-banger @ -36C w/o block heater was the norm).
mineral will do the job just fine (friend's dad bought a factory maintained/city driven corolla with over 230kkms and compression is good, no oil burning, passing aircare checks, etc.)
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I recently starting doing the oil changes on my mom's '03 Corolla w/39k miles. Little varnish on the dipstick. I've been using Mobil Clean 5000 w/Puralotor Oil Filters. 6mo. OCI regardless of mileage. Short trips mostly. I recently bought Pennzoil Platinum for $21 @ Wally world and if I use that oil in the future it will be for a 1 yr. interval. By all means check on the tires! I changed out her tires recently b/c her old tires were starting to dry-rot. (Plenty of thread left.) Put on Cooper Response Touring from Sears for $280 w/rebate. Nice tires. Ride smooth and handle fine.
I changed the oil in my '99 Corolla about a month ago with Mobil 1 0W-30 AFE. It is very smooth and I'm averaging 33mpg. Your '02 would do great on that oil regardless of the fact that your ambient temps do not reach extreme cold. My Corolla used to burn around 1 quart every 1000 miles, but since I have been using Mobil 1 products the consumption has dropped quite a bit. I already have around 500 miles on the 0W-30 and have only burned maybe 0.2 of a quart.
Go for the 0W-30 ... it will be easier for you to purchase as you stated your Prius uses this grade as well.
Go for the 0W-30 ... it will be easier for you to purchase as you stated your Prius uses this grade as well.
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