2000 Toyota Sienna ATF Quandry

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I'm trying to determine which ATF to use this time in a 2000 Sienna. I used Dex III for several years until that was no longer readily available, then I tried using Mobil 1 ATF. While shift quality was improved over the Dex III (much smoother and softer shifting), I experienced some lazy shifts and what felt like occasional slipping with the M1. So about 20K miles ago, I replaced most of the M1 fill with with Dexron VI. Shift quality has been very good with the Dex VI, and while the feeling of slipping went away, I still occasionally experience somewhat of a lazy 1-2 shift when cold and when driving uphill, although not nearly as noticable as with the M1.

So with an ATF change on the horizon, my quandary is whether or not continue using the Dex VI or to simply try Dex/Merc this time since, according to my understanding, that is more or less the continuation of the Dex III spec. What would you all recommend for an Aisin-Warner unit like what is installed in this Sienna? Transmission still seems very healthy overall after 108K miles, and I'd like to make it last as long as possible.
 
If I'm not mistaken, the sienna spec calls for the Toyota T-IV fluid. I would recommend trying the manufacturer's fluid. Mobil makes one, called 3309. Or the dealer will have some. Aisin transmissions are kinda picky about the fluid.
 
Originally Posted By: tinmanSC
If I'm not mistaken, the sienna spec calls for the Toyota T-IV fluid. I would recommend trying the manufacturer's fluid. Mobil makes one, called 3309. Or the dealer will have some. Aisin transmissions are kinda picky about the fluid.


First generation Sienna's called for DexronIII. Next gen in 04 called for T-IV.
 
The dipstick does call for Dex III on this application. I have done a pan drop on every change so far (I've done five changes total). There was actually very minimal metal on the magnets and everything was very clean the last time I opened it up. I guess I was most concerned about the occasional lazy shifting and just wanted to make sure that I'm using a fluid that will maximize the life of this transmission. I have not tried disconnecting the battery.

First generation Siennas did have some tranmsission failure issues, so I do agree that going back to a non-syn ATF is probably not a good call in this application if I want to try to maximize longevity. With that in mind, would you stick with the Dex VI that I have in there currently, or woud you recommend trying something like Amsoil or Redline ATF? Thank you all for the recommendations.
 
Just noticed that I missed the recommendation from unDummy above about the Redline or Amsoil Dex/Merc on first read. Might be worth a try. As mentioned above, the Mobil 1 ATF was not great in this application. Transmission whine was more noticeable too with M1 than with Dex VI.
 
Originally Posted By: Char Baby
Originally Posted By: tinmanSC
If I'm not mistaken, the sienna spec calls for the Toyota T-IV fluid. I would recommend trying the manufacturer's fluid. Mobil makes one, called 3309. Or the dealer will have some. Aisin transmissions are kinda picky about the fluid.


First generation Sienna's called for DexronIII. Next gen in 04 called for T-IV.



Oh, 2000, right. Leave it to me to get the wrong generation.
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Originally Posted By: tinmanSC
Originally Posted By: Char Baby
Originally Posted By: tinmanSC
If I'm not mistaken, the sienna spec calls for the Toyota T-IV fluid. I would recommend trying the manufacturer's fluid. Mobil makes one, called 3309. Or the dealer will have some. Aisin transmissions are kinda picky about the fluid.


First generation Sienna's called for DexronIII. Next gen in 04 called for T-IV.



Oh, 2000, right. Leave it to me to get the wrong generation.
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Easy on yourself!
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