10 Second cars...

[jazeo]

Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: jazeo
I think there's lots of people out there that don't realize how fast some 1/4 times are. Once you break into low 11's and faster a car can become a real handful to drive. I'm referring to older hotrods not showroom fresh cars, however I'm sure they can be scary at times also.


I absolutely AGREE!

A sub 11 second, purpose built drag race ride with skinnies, no front sway bar, etc. will be MUCH 'squirrelier', and hard to control, especially when they 'dance around' at the top end, than a showroom stock ~11 second ride with all of the handling helpers intact.


Yep, that's exactly the point I was trying to make! Squeezing the steering wheel with my left hand as hard as I could so the car didn't make a right hand turn when launching...lol

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: nutsbolts
I built my Ranchero with about 10,000 total and it runs 6.770 best at 101.76 in the 1/8 mile.
all my stuff was used junk nobody really wanted and I am known at my track as one fast Ford
Driven to and from the track every fri nite
Unfortunatly a few weeks ago the block let go
after 10 years of abuse, but it was fun while it lasted!

[removed non site sponsor links]
Videos below!

[removed non site sponsor links]

The true art of Hot Rodding !!!!

 

[Gene K]

A 10 second car is not a fast car. Of course a fast street car is an oxymoron.

To give you some idea a relatively mild big-block powered dragster (850 bhp) that runs a 4.9 eighth and high 7 quarters will go 0-60 mph by the 60' mark. Just a hair over 1.0 second.

 

[SteveSRT8]

There is no arbitrary number that constitutes 'fast' or 'quick'.

It's all relative. Imagine what the 10 second car feels like to a guy who drives a top fuel car.

 

[postjeeprcr]

Originally Posted By: Gene K
A 10 second car is not a fast car. Of course a fast street car is an oxymoron.

To give you some idea a relatively mild big-block powered dragster (850 bhp) that runs a 4.9 eighth and high 7 quarters will go 0-60 mph by the 60' mark. Just a hair over 1.0 second.


Dragsters that go that fast have more horsepower then 850.

 

[Unearthed]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
There is no arbitrary number that constitutes 'fast' or 'quick'.

It's all relative. Imagine what the 10 second car feels like to a guy who drives a top fuel car.


I remember the first time I drove my friends STI...I couldn't imagine going any quicker.

 

[ItsuMitsubishi]

Originally Posted By: Gene K
A 10 second car is not a fast car. Of course a fast street car is an oxymoron.

To give you some idea a relatively mild big-block powered dragster (850 bhp) that runs a 4.9 eighth and high 7 quarters will go 0-60 mph by the 60' mark. Just a hair over 1.0 second.


Theres a lot more than peak HP going on to achieve that- full on slicks and straight up traction.

 

[ProStreetCamaro]

Originally Posted By: ItsuMitsubishi
Originally Posted By: Gene K
A 10 second car is not a fast car. Of course a fast street car is an oxymoron.

To give you some idea a relatively mild big-block powered dragster (850 bhp) that runs a 4.9 eighth and high 7 quarters will go 0-60 mph by the 60' mark. Just a hair over 1.0 second.


Theres a lot more than peak HP going on to achieve that- full on slicks and straight up traction.


What you meant to say was "light as a feather". I know a guy running a dragster with a bone stock 502 crate engine (older 502 502hp model) going mid 8's. The ONLY thing he changed was the cam.

 

[VNTS]

Originally Posted By: crrdvr6
I've seen 4 cylinder hondas run 9 second in the .25 mile. All it will take is money.


yes and they replace the motor every other run LOL

Friend has a shop specializing in Hondas, loves em since when they get down to 13 sec and faster they break all the time. Has over 45 transaxles and a couple hundred sets of axles pulled from local yards to service the local ricers who want to be fast. He has a 93 integra with 14000$ in the engine to run high 12's in a gutted car.

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: ProStreetCamaro
Originally Posted By: ItsuMitsubishi
Originally Posted By: Gene K
A 10 second car is not a fast car. Of course a fast street car is an oxymoron.

To give you some idea a relatively mild big-block powered dragster (850 bhp) that runs a 4.9 eighth and high 7 quarters will go 0-60 mph by the 60' mark. Just a hair over 1.0 second.


Theres a lot more than peak HP going on to achieve that- full on slicks and straight up traction.


What you meant to say was "light as a feather". I know a guy running a dragster with a bone stock 502 crate engine (older 502 502hp model) going mid 8's. The ONLY thing he changed was the cam.
Those engines put out lots of useable torque and horsepower .

 

[saberz]

With enough money you can do anything, even make an an Echo run 10 seconds.

 

[shpankey]

Originally Posted By: pavelow
Originally Posted By: sciphi
One of the new ones, yeah, probably when they get a forced induction kit.

Or buy a 2011 Mustang GT. They're rumored to be high 10's with a few bolt-ons.
Not quite. They run low 12s with sticky tires and a good driver. MMFF just tested one. The average Joe on street tires will likely see high 12s. With bolt-ons and a good driver, I'd say mid 11s tops. It will still take a power adder or going inside the engine to get the new 5.0 into the 10s.

Weird, I was hearing the same as you, but low 11's with just sticky tires. My buds are probably all misinformed, as usual.

 

[L_Sludger]

Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Absolutely we had one when i worked at a race shop. We took out the V6, put in a 5.4L DOHC V8 a 92mm turbo, powerglide and a 9" and it actually cut mid 8's. Technically it was still a v6 mustang

drooooooollll

 

[L_Sludger]

Originally Posted By: NateDN10
Do you realize how fast a 10 second 1/4 mile is?

Consider this: in Car & Driver's review of the 2009 Corvette ZR1 (a $105,000 car) ran the 1/4 in 11.3 seconds.

Now, you can surely mod a lighter-weight car to have more power, but will it be safe or reliable?

I've seen plenty of times where someone pays someone else to get their car more power (turbo, new cam, etc), and winds up going past schedule, over budget. If you're going to do it, do it yourself, and resign yourself to the fact that it won't be cheap, easy or quick.


Or you could put it another way,
a $1.3 million McLaren F1 LM runs the 1/4 mile in 11.3 seconds.

 

[L_Sludger]

Originally Posted By: Unearthed

I remember the first time I drove my friends STI...I couldn't imagine going any quicker.

aside: wow, that's mind-blowing. I had a turbo Supra a few years ago, and test drove a WRX STi. While I was stunned by the rail-like handling and awesome brakes, the power felt completely underwhelming.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Beware of the "butt dyno". The results are usually inaccurate.

I had a 421 Pontiac that only revved to 5800 rpm, didn't 'feel' very fast. But it was faster/quicker than my 1970 Chevelle with 454-4 speed/3.73 gears!

 

[Rhymingmechanic]

Those big Pontiacs had torque, which means more than horsepower in the real world. There's a guy named Jim Hand who does mid and low elevens with a Pontiac station wagon, running pump gas and mufflers. He has been tinkering with the car for more than 20 years, though, at who knows what price.

Whether your go-fast plan is low revs and big torque or high revs and a small engine, it takes cubic money to go fast, and to keep going fast.

 

[HangerHarley]

Originally Posted By: van5150halen
Well. Actually I was just shooting for that.. I'd like to go faster. More speed is always better. Haha


Do you plan on driving this car on the street, too? Or Track only?

If "Someone owes you a 10-second car" like that Supra in Fast and Furious.. Dude, that movie was some [censored] i mean it was watchable, the first one was watchable anyways, somewhat. But i think ive outgrown that movie somewhat.

And if you want to drive this car as normal. Cheater slicks are needed. They have 1" of tread down the middle so they are not "Slicks."

How legal is this car going to be

btw... Olds 442 = "Hard 9's"

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Beware of the "butt dyno". The results are usually inaccurate.

I had a 421 Pontiac that only revved to 5800 rpm, didn't 'feel' very fast. But it was faster/quicker than my 1970 Chevelle with 454-4 speed/3.73 gears!
Pontiac motors are really interesting engines. Untill I started to assemble a friends 66 GTO that he got in a box I never paid much attention to pontiac engines.