10% apparently is better than 90%

[simple_gifts]

http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/26/technology/apple_microsoft/index.htm?cnn=yes

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On Wednesday, Apple's market capitalization edged past its longtime rival's as investors made official what consumers have long suggested: Microsoft is no longer the industry's alpha dog.

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"What this really means is that Wall Street has more confidence in Apple's growth prospects than it does in Microsoft's growth prospects," said Matt Rosoff, lead analyst at Directions on Microsoft, an independent firm.

"Apple is showing high growth, with the launch of its iPad and its new iPhone coming out, and while Windows is a great competitor versus the Mac, Microsoft just hasn't come up with new areas of growth."


Additional good observations on the fact MS doesn't really need to compete in consumer space, but feel they have to, they can just stick to the corporate market where there is no impetus to look elsewhere for solutions

Feel free to read this on your Iphone or whatever MS's competing product is called....

 

[Dr_No]

Read this on my iPhone.. Lol

 

[ToyotaNSaturn]

Originally Posted By: Dr_No
Read this on my iPhone.. Lol


me too LOL

however, my late '08 Macbook runs better with Win2008 Server R2 (same as Win 7 x64) than OSX 10.6.3.

Apple is now suffering the 'we don't make it better, we make it bigger' nonsense that Microsoft has long done prior to Win7.

 

[Mystic]

Apple is making a lot of consumer electronics products like the iPhone, iPod, iPad, and so forth. And Apple makes a huge profit on what computers they do sell. And they are selling hardware computers and not just software. Some two thirds of Apple's profits come from consumer electronic stuff so in many ways Apple is really a consumer electronics company. Steve Jobs himself had the word 'Computer' taken from Apple Inc.'s name.

For a lot of different reasons I moved away from Apple products. The bottom line is a Windows computer costs less and can do everything a Mac can do. Maybe 90% is wise enough to use what is reasonable in price and can do what is necessary. The other 10% can walk around and brag how they are superior to the other 90%. And the Linux 1% (desktop computers) can brag about how they are superior to both.

I would rather just be able to get my work done using a computer that cost a reasonable amount of money and has very good software/hardware compatibility.

 

[simple_gifts]

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The bottom line is a Windows computer costs less and can do everything a Mac can do


It's not about the Mac, herein lies the problem. It is about mobile computing and connectivity.

Your analogy also hold true about the Kia Rio and BMW 335, but I don't see people banging down the door to buy the former.

 

[ddrumman2004]

Here is a thought...

If Apple is "alpha" now, maybe the hackers will leave us Window users alone and concentrate on them.

 

[PandaBear]

The way I see it is that MS got bloated over the years with politics and less with innovation. I have some new co-workers who join us from MS' Windows Mobile team, and they have 2000 engineers (software/firmware/etc) and the volume of stuff they sell is what, 7%? I don't know what isn't bloated, Apple's mobile software group (iPod, iPad) is only 250 last year and 500 this year, so I think there is a lot of room to clean up in MS.

Also the mentality of people has changed recently. No longer is "can I run the softwares I bought since 1996" an important issue when the new priority is "can I get it do what I need, on the net". The new standard is now web based, and as long as you can run a browser you are good to go. Apple do it with style and price, Google will do it with cost and simplicity. I don't know what will MS do if they don't come up with something quick.

Right now it is the business and gaming market that holds MS in its place, if Google found a way to implement game API and graphics engines for future games in OSX, MS, and Linux, I'd say the future of MS is toasted.

 

[simple_gifts]

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If Apple is "alpha" now, maybe the hackers will leave us Window users alone and concentrate on them.


The lions know how to pick the weakest ones, no matter how big the herd may be.

 

[Mystic]

I think mobile computing is overrated. I like to go places and do photography but the last thing I want to do is lug a laptop computer with me everywhere. I would rather have light weight extra memory cards. After shooting photographs all day the last thing I want to do is to go to my hotel room and work on photos. I can do that at home using my desktop computer.

I think that connectivity deal is overrated also. I want to be connected enough to be safe but somehow I don't feel too safe watching somebody on a cellphone driving a car near me down the highway.

A lot of the stuff Apple makes is like expensive toys for wealthy people. My little cellphone works fine-I don't need an iPhone. I have never owned an iPod. And the iPad looks like an expensive toy to me.

I think online computing, at least today, is greatly overrated. I don't trust Google very much. And I would prefer to have Photoshop on my desktop computer. A lot of online applications are a complete joke. And what about security? Does anybody really trust Google?

Cloud security? That is a joke! I want my own hardware firewall, and A/V and software firwall! After the endless failures of any kind of online security the last thing I will trust is some kind of 'cloud security.' I am not going to trust important personal information to Google or anybody else. As far as I am concerned, Google has already failed the security test!

 

[simple_gifts]

Good point, mobile computing is overrated, just like mobile communications. If I want to talk to someone on the phone, I'll just drive home and do it there....

 

[Mystic]

Obviously a cellphone can really come in handy if you see an accident in some remote area or if you feel threatened somewhere by some lunatics. If you experience an accident yourself it is nice to be able to call for help if you are able to. I don't make telephone calls deliberately while driving however. And I don't appreciate somebody being on a cellphone near me on the highway or checking their email on their iPhone while driving down the highway and endangering other people.

A businessman or businesswoman might have a real need to be able to check their emails or go online in their hotel rooms.

For the amount of money people spend on various expensive toys they could get a good desktop computer to use at home.

If I am on vacation somewhere the last thing I want is to be answering telephone calls every 5 minutes.

 

[simple_gifts]

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I want is to be answering telephone calls every 5 minutes.


I hear the good ones have off switches.

Not sure why you equate mobile phones with irresponsible driving; the two are unrelated. All technology can be responsibly used (or not)

 

[Mystic]

You have never seen people driving down the road at 75 miles an hour with a cellphone stuck on their ear? You have never seen anybody checking their email on an iPhone or Blackberry while driving 75 miles an hour down the highway? Taking their eyes off the road so they can check that critical email? And now they will be checking stuff on their iPads!

There have been so many accidents, deaths, injuries, etc., because of people using cellphones and checking their emails while driving that there has been talk in some states about outlawing use of a cellphone while driving. You have never heard about any of this?

Maybe where you live the highways are shorter and speeds are slower but I live in a BIG state (Colorado). And there are long highways and 75 mph speed limits. I have personally seen people who were so intent on their iPhones that they nearly drove off the road.

 

[ToyotaNSaturn]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
I have never owned an iPod. And the iPad looks like an expensive toy to me.


Prior to June of last year, I was dead set against spending $$ on a smart phone of any type. Then we decided to go for it. iPhone was our choice as we were already AT&T customers.

iPhone has completely change the way I use computers. Far less time behind a laptop/desktop and more computing on the go. Facebook isn't evil and I've made a few new friends along the way. Twitter is great for reading breaking news on the go. And in that, Twitter has changed the way I watch news...I barely watch it anymore as I'm better informed and know all the stories the TV wants me to wait 30 or 60 minutes to watch. MLB...I can listen to my favorite teams on the phone. Podcasts...easily download them directly to the device. Uber convenient.

Mobile communications isn't overrated, it's just right.

Even if you don't buy a smart phone, buy an iPod Touch and use it around the house/workplace/coffee shop. You'll be amazed at how handy it is!

 

[Virtuoso]

Mobile is the way it's going to be, in some form or another.

Eventually, we will all be connected to "cloud computers", most if not all of our apps will run on a remote "server", and very little data will be stored locally. Basically our computers will just be glorified terminals.

Or I could be totally wrong, but that sure seems like the direction everything is going.


Apple's products are AWESOME IMHO (and I'm NOT an Apple fanboy). I just don't like the inflated price, or the chokehold they are starting to take on users of iPhones and iPads..

 

[Mystic]

With all of the security issues that have come up involving Google, loss of personal information, etc., it will be a very long time before I start doing any 'cloud computing.' I think a lot of companies and governmental agencies will think twice before committing important information to the internet.

Actually right now I don't wait for the news on TV. I can get the news from many sources right on the internet with my desktop computer.

How many of you are willing today to answer questionaires that come over the telephone? Just today I received a telephone call and I told the guy I did not answer any questions over the telephone for surveys.

Are you really ready to commit personal information, important business information, etc., to unknown servers located who knows where and to unknown people?

Would you hand a briefcase filled with your business information to some unknown person who showed up at your place of business?

Who are these unknown people handling your personal, business, and confidential information on the internet? Would you hire somebody without a background check?

Where are the servers located? Are they located in China? Are they located in Brazil? Are they located in Russia?

Better have answers to all of these questions BEFORE you trust mysterious strangers with your personal, confidential, and business information.

There have been massive security incidents involving servers thought to be secure on the internet. And Google, among others, has been accused of being loose with the personal information it possessed about people.

 

[OVERKILL]

I'm sure those servers just needed a copy of NIS 2010 and they would have been just fine! Security schmerity, the software would have called in a sniper team and had the perpetrator assassinated!

NIS 2010 does it all.

I think I'll go burn my 1841 and then plug my PC directly in the Internet. NIS 2010 will keep me safe. My good buddy Mystic said so.

 

[Mystic]

Why are you attacking me personally OVERKILL? I said nothing about Norton 2010 being able to defend against personal information being lost on the internet when people start using online applications and relying on companies like Google to safeguard their personal information. In fact I said that I will not personally rely on 'cloud computing' and online applications and Google apps. I questioned how secure it would be for people who allow their personal information and business information to get out on the internet and how safe it would be to rely on unknown people who control the servers and the online software. I said nothing about Norton being able to safeguard a person when they use online apps, entrust Google with their information, etc.

You are having a bad day OVERKILL. I am entitled to comment here the same as anybody else. Keep attacking me so that people can observe your personal attacks on me. I will not personally attack you. I don't know you. You don't know me. If I have a problem with what somebody says I attack the message and not the messenger.

You say below "I think I'll go burn my 1841 and then plug my PC directly in the internet. NIS 2010 will keep me safe. My good buddy Mystic said so." I said no such thing. In fact, if anybody checks what I said above I said that I don't trust sending personal information and business information to the internet. I said I don't trust Google to safeguard my personal information. I said nothing about Norton 2010 protecting a person if they send their personal information and business information out to the internet.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
Why are you attacking me personally OVERKILL? I said nothing about Norton 2010 being able to defend against personal information being lost on the internet when people start using online applications and relying on companies like Google to safeguard their personal information. In fact I said that I will not personally rely on 'cloud computing' and online applications and Google apps. I questioned how secure it would be for people who allow their personal information and business information to get out on the internet and how safe it would be to rely on unknown people who control the servers and the online software. I said nothing about Norton being able to safeguard a person when they use online apps, entrust Google with their information, etc.

You are having a bad day OVERKILL. I am entitled to comment here the same as anybody else. Keep attacking me so that people can observe your personal attacks on me. I will not personally attack you. I don't know you. You don't know me. If I have a problem with what somebody says I attack the message and not the messenger.

You say below "I think I'll go burn my 1841 and then plug my PC directly in the internet. NIS 2010 will keep me safe. My good buddy Mystic said so." I said no such thing. In fact, if anybody checks what I said above I said that I don't trust sending personal information and business information to the internet. I said I don't trust Google to safeguard my personal information. I said nothing about Norton 2010 protecting a person if they send their personal information and business information out to the internet.


I appear to have failed at comedy. I was TEASING YOU.

RELAX.

 

[simple_gifts]

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I said I don't trust Google to safeguard my personal information.


Best to trust it to a vendor with a solid security track record, MS.