Originally Posted by Nickdfresh
Originally Posted by edyvw
It is. No doubt about it. When average Toyota driver drives 30mph below speed limit in left lane,
IDK, a bit of an overgeneralization. The Camry is pretty beefy when it comes to horsepower these days...
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Yugo engine will move most of their cars OK and pretty reliable.
Yeah, but the windshields would pop out!
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But take into consideration that VW VR6 engines are actually bulletproof and I would bet my money on that engine for longevity any time over 2GR-FE in SIenna.
Do not forget, Toyota's more complex engines (diesels for example) have abysmal reliability compared to pretty much anything.
No argument on the VR6, it was/is excellent, but the turbos have been problematic. We don't see enough Toyota diesels in this country to really judge. I know Toyota rarely updates their drivetrains and has obsolete engine tech in things like Corollas and whatnot, they've had some missteps with the "sludger" Camrys, etc. But overall, the 0W-20 full syn and blends have not had any serious problems, engine oil isn't even a factor anymore. Takata airbags? A different story...
I seriously doubt they'll advocate 0W-8 in their mainstream internal combustion engines. I think this is more of a future weight for small gas engines tied to a big battery pack...
Camry might have pretty beefy hp (I think they always had) but problem is that rest of vehicle cannot handle it pretty well, especially brakes.
Yugo and popping windshield? I am afraid of that every time I hike up music in Sienna. The amount of rattling in the vehicle is actually worse than in Yugo I had.
There is a reason why Toyota does not bring complex engines to US, among them diesels (I own Land Cruiser diesel in Europe). As for VW turbo? I have one, and would ALWAYS choose one over any Toyota/Lexus turbo vehicle.
There is a reason why Toyota is using rudimentary technology in the US. VW is using in Atlas VR6 for same reason although they have on the shelf available 2.5 VR6 turbo and 3.0 VR6 turbo.