04 Toy 3.4L V6....thicker oil or no??

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Question actually is whether or not I can run Rotella synthetic 5w-40 in this engine. It has nearly 100k, does not use, leak or burn any oil. It's just my other 2 trucks use this oil, and it would be so much easier to have all 3 on the same oil.

Plus, I like the added detergents of a diesel oil.
 
If it simplifies your stock and given your mileage it shouldn't be a problem. This is providing no additional benefit to the motor other if it is not having any issues with standard PCMO 5w30. The beneifit is to you and simplyfying your oil purchasing. It won't hurt the truck, it is out of the Emmissions warranty and this engine is not to effecient for the power anyway.
 
Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
why go thicker if it dont burn or leak sm 5w30 conventional would be fine in this engine..


Why go thicker??? In his post he said he uses 5w40 in the 2 trucks and he wants the same oil for all three. I agree with him, having one type of oil is hassle free and easy to find deals. To the OP, Rotella T. is one stout oil, I would not hesitate to use it all year long.
 
Originally Posted By: Ramblin Fever
Question actually is whether or not I can run Rotella synthetic 5w-40 in this engine. It has nearly 100k, does not use, leak or burn any oil. It's just my other 2 trucks use this oil, and it would be so much easier to have all 3 on the same oil.

Plus, I like the added detergents of a diesel oil.

My 2002 has 97K. Was using Mobil 0W30, currently using GC. Next fall ill go back to the Mobil 0W30 since ive got enough for one more oil change....after that ill keep using GC.
 
5w30 will keep the bearings a little cooler and will get into the extremely tight clearances of the bearings and other parts of that engine a little faster .. if he used 20w50 in his 2 trucks would it be hassle free for him to use it in this engine???
Maybe for a short while then it would no longer be hassle free I guess if everyone used what the engine manufacturer tells them to use my business would be down 60% because all we do are engines, Period!
Todays oil are superior to oils offered 20 yrs ago thin is in believe it or not.
 
I have no issues to continue running 5w30 if it for sure is superior to Rotella synthetic 5w-40, which, however, some thick 5w30's are not much thinner then the Rotella is.

I'm not, nor would I run anything thicker then the 5w-40 in this engine or in my other gas engine.

Thin is in for gas engines, however, I can not run a 5w30 in my cummins diesel....so to say thin is in is kind of a general statement that doesn't go too far for gas/diesel engines that were labeled for heavier oils; i.e. Isuzu and Cummins are my other 2 trucks.

I have no problems staying with the 5w30; just felt the RTS has better detergents, anti-wear additives, etc and is easier to buy in quantity since I run it in everything else I own.
 
My question is why use the 5W-40 in your other vehicles? 5w30 should do nicely for most engines, and give you better hydrodynamic lubication.
 
Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
5w30 will keep the bearings a little cooler and will get into the extremely tight clearances of the bearings and other parts of that engine a little faster .. if he used 20w50 in his 2 trucks would it be hassle free for him to use it in this engine???
Maybe for a short while then it would no longer be hassle free I guess if everyone used what the engine manufacturer tells them to use my business would be down 60% because all we do are engines, Period!
Todays oil are superior to oils offered 20 yrs ago thin is in believe it or not.


I tend to agree. I'd go through the extra tiny hassle and continue using the 5W30 oil. My 2 cents.
 
Where you live might be a consideration, not sure where Timberline is, unless you're saying you live in the mountains at the tree line.

It's been well documented that a thinner 20 weight works well in moderately hot climates, but I don't think the same can be said about thicker oils working well in colder climates, at least in engines designed for thinner oils.
 
My 02 taco 4x4 v6 gets 5w30 and 10w30 synthetic or Pennzoil Conventional.. she has 128k miles on her and does not use or leak a drop of oil unless i am going speeds of over 90mph (which i dont do but did one time and noticed) stick with the 30wts bro your motor is just now getting broke in. I wont even think about a 40wt until she is in the 200k's
 
You can absolutely use the 5W40 in all of your rigs. The Rotella 5W40 is an excellent oil.

All of these arguments about 40 weight being too thick or not cooling the bearings as well don't hold ANY water. An oil pump is a positive displacement pump, and will pump the exact same amount of oil (unless you're in bypass) with just a slightly higher pressure. Thus, bearings operate with the same flow of oil. A 40 weight is only slightly thicker than a 30 weight at full operating temp.

And about the engine rebuilder on this site that keeps claiming thick oils are killing engines because the oil can't get into the "smaller" clearances of today's motors. Many things wrong with this claim:

1. Bearing clearances are not smaller.

2. Motors around the world (including the OP's Toyota V6) are using much thicker oils than they are here, and they last forever just the same. For severe service, thicker is the way to go.

3. If a 40 weight "cannot get into the crevaces" of the motor as well as thinner oils, such as 30 or 20 weights, why don't all car engines fail when they are started cold and the oil is WAY thicker than any 30, 40, 50, 60, or 70 weight is at operating temperature???

4. The owner's manuals of vehicles outside of North America normally list a wide range of viscosities that are acceptable to use, depending on ambient temps and type of vehicle usage. They often span everything from a 20 weight to a 50 weight. Why can non-North American motors use many different oil weights, but only use one here?


Use the Rotella 5W40 if it makes your life simpler and rest easy at night. Your truck will last a long time either way.
 
The one thing I have experienced with Toyota engines is that they love thicker oil. The thinner I went, the noisier the engine. I would have no problems using Rotella 5w40. It actually might be the perfect viscosity for the 3.4L V6 engine
 
Originally Posted By: deven
The one thing I have experienced with Toyota engines is that they love thicker oil. The thinner I went, the noisier the engine. I would have no problems using Rotella 5w40. It actually might be the perfect viscosity for the 3.4L V6 engine


is this a general statement or one backed by proof (used oil analysis) i have no issue using thicker oil but thats a bold statement. just bc it quietens the motor does not mean its better for it.. just sayin :-)
 
Oh no not another thick thin debate.
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Originally Posted By: PT1
I only use 5w30 in all of the Toyota V6 engines I have and have had. 5w40 is too thick IMO.


I'm with you and demarpaint, use 5W30. if/When it starts leaking and burning move up to a 40wt.

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