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#597254 - 08/25/04 06:21 AM Good Oil for Locks ?
1sttruck Offline


Registered: 03/20/04
Posts: 4378
Loc: Camas, WA
What's a good oil for locks, on houses and cars ? I've used Lockease (?) since I started working on stuff, and while it seems to work well enough I was wondering if there is something better. I like Lockease as it seems to help locks from freezing up, and to just keep them working. Breakfree CLP seems like a commonly available candidate.

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#597255 - 08/25/04 06:25 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
JustinH Offline


Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 5150
Loc: Texas
I have had good luck spraying a little PB blaster in there, it really works well.

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#597256 - 08/25/04 06:41 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
Bio-T Offline



Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 5336
Loc: London, AR
I think that the Schaeffer's Penetro 90 or Royal Purple Max Film are both super products. I have used both and I really like them. If I were to pick a winner it would be both, because the Penetro seems to be a better penetrating lube, and the Royal Purple Synthetic Max Film does excellent as a penetrant, the lasting oil film is really super. JMO

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#597257 - 08/25/04 07:08 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
tom slick Offline


Registered: 05/26/03
Posts: 9295
Loc: Central Coast, Calif.
local locksmith swears by triflow. i use it and it works well. they don't recommend powdered graphite.

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#597258 - 08/25/04 07:23 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
seotaji Offline


Registered: 02/16/04
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
i'm not that impressed by triflow.

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#597259 - 08/25/04 06:29 PM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
labman Offline


Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 8711
Loc: Nothern USA
Depends how often you want to relube it. Stick to Lock-Ease or powdered graphite, and you should be able to go years at time. WD-40, and it would be monthly if not weekly.

Lock-Ease has alcohol in it to melt any ice in the lock and leave graphite behind. If you drop your key in the snow, dry it off before you use.

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#597260 - 08/28/04 05:35 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
Rick in PA Offline


Registered: 01/04/03
Posts: 3203
Loc: Southeastern, PA
I swear by Lockease (the stuff with graphite). I've been treating my locks once a year in the fall with it for about 20 years, can't remember having a lock freeze-up.

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#597261 - 08/29/04 04:33 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
Lubricious Offline


Registered: 12/08/03
Posts: 103
Loc: NJ
White Lithium Grease

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#597262 - 08/29/04 11:15 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
moribundman Offline


Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 23591
I used to use the lock grease spray VW sells, but I switched to graphite powder years ago. I don't like the idea of grease attracting dirt inside a lock.

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#597263 - 08/29/04 06:54 PM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
Kestas Offline



Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 12279
Loc: The Motor City
I've heard the graphite lube isn't good for modern cars. Nowadays the locks have electrical contacts that can go buggy on you if you use the graphite lube. That's why some don't recommend it for automotive locks. I'll have to check out the triflow stuff.

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#597264 - 10/09/04 09:53 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
oilboy123 Offline


Registered: 12/05/03
Posts: 6953
Loc: Everett, Washington
That is a good point on the locks with electrical contacts and graphite. I,ll have to re think the graphite lock ease I use.

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#597265 - 10/09/04 01:21 PM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
MONKEYMAN Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 2204
Loc: St. Louis
Local locksmith shop recommended triflow, said to stay away from graphite since it gums up the lock. I had a house lock rebuilt that was worn out. It was full of chunks of graphite. Triflow seems to work well, but I had some binding in one lock after spraying it. I think it may have freed some of the dried graphite, but am not sure.

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#597266 - 10/10/04 12:11 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
Neil Womack Offline


Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 718
Loc: Central Texas
I take a pencil and rub the lead (graphite) on the the key and insert the key. The cost is as near zero as you can get and the lock is not flooded with any type of lubricant.

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#597267 - 11/16/04 12:56 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
Virtuoso Offline


Registered: 02/25/03
Posts: 2703
Loc: Lincoln, NE
I've always used a bit of whatever motor oil I have laying around. Perhaps this is a bad idea?

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#597268 - 11/25/04 04:06 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
brian fix Offline


Registered: 10/27/04
Posts: 563
Loc: wisconsin
Per lock lube,,I presume you want to lube the tumbler (where the key goes in),, first CLEAN the lock with Elec.contact cleaner and run key in and out,then use a ,spray silicon and inject into key slide,,,for the rest of lockuse a Dow Corning or similar light instrument grease...BL

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#597269 - 11/28/04 08:33 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
DNaatz Offline


Registered: 07/11/04
Posts: 11
Loc: Rochester, MN
So lotsa different advice(s) here.
My specific question relates on what's good for an ignition key that occasionally jams but always eventually starts the car.
I suggest WD40 which I have used in outside door locks and should not harm any electrical wiring it might get into - vs comments on graphite in earlier posts not being good for electrical contacts.

Any other thoughts for lubing the ignition switch tumblers?

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#597270 - 11/28/04 12:20 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
wileyE Offline


Registered: 11/18/04
Posts: 1967
Loc: Kitsap, WA
Could be your key is just getting worn out? teeth are getting rounded off etc. I found this true a few times on cars and just needed to make a new key off the original (after tearing the house apart trying to find it, LOL)

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#597271 - 11/28/04 06:52 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
DNaatz Offline


Registered: 07/11/04
Posts: 11
Loc: Rochester, MN
Both keys act up, one is a new key.
So methinks its tumblers sticking or the ignition assembly wearing out (40,000 mi seems too early for that).
On another forum a gentleman said never used WD40, use graphite spray. I may just check with a locksmith for their advice, hopefully they won't give me something to mess it up so they can make more money!

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#597272 - 12/07/04 05:02 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
seotaji Offline


Registered: 02/16/04
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
quote:
methinks its tumblers sticking or the ignition assembly wearing out (40,000 mi seems too early for that).
i had a dodge that had a defective ignition switch from the factory.

i wouldn't doubt that yours was defective either.

just replace it or rebuild it (so you don't have to walk around with two sets of keys ala chevy caprice.

also, i've never had to use anything in my (car/house/otherwise) locks and they've been working fine for decades.

[ December 07, 2004, 09:31 PM: Message edited by: seotaji ]

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#597273 - 12/07/04 09:05 PM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
luvs2drive Offline


Registered: 07/20/04
Posts: 263
Loc: Durham Region, Ontario, Canada
A quick shot of T-40 Krown rustproofing always works for me. My buddies VW doorlock use to suffer from freezing and was hard to turn. Now it works fine.

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#597274 - 12/08/04 04:52 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
Tones Offline


Registered: 11/28/03
Posts: 954
Loc: Houston, TX
This is a funny topic because there are a lot of strong opinions on this. Some say use nothing but powdered graphite, others use grease.

I have had excellent results using Remoil. It is a light gun cleaning oil spray with suspended teflon. The oil is not like WD-40, it will not evaporate. I have used it in sensitive electronics with great success. The excess oil will seep out, but it leaves a thin film of oil and the teflon behind. This stuff is very slick and keeps things lubricated for a long time. I use it on all kinds of hinges and locks. I think wallyworld carries it. I haven't had to buy any in a while (years) because a little goes a long way.

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#597275 - 12/08/04 05:52 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 47269
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
I don't like the left behind WD-40.

I second the contact cleaner and PB Blaster clean-up followed by a very light silicone lube on the key.

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#597276 - 12/16/04 05:06 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
ChrisW Offline


Registered: 11/04/03
Posts: 943
Loc: Central Valley, CA
I use to use graphite...hmm maybe not anymroe after reading this.

Perhaps GC would be ideal? It works great for cars! [Big Grin]

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#597277 - 12/27/04 10:36 PM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
Kestas Offline



Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 12279
Loc: The Motor City
quote:
Originally posted by Tones:
...I have had excellent results using Remoil. It is a light gun cleaning oil spray with suspended teflon. The oil is not like WD-40, it will not evaporate. I have used it in sensitive electronics with great success. The excess oil will seep out, but it leaves a thin film of oil and the teflon behind. This stuff is very slick and keeps things lubricated for a long time...

Perhaps I can finally put my old bottle of Slick 50 to good use!

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#597278 - 12/30/04 05:42 PM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
moribundman Offline


Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 23591
quote:
I've heard the graphite lube isn't good for modern cars. Nowadays the locks have electrical contacts that can go buggy on you if you use the graphite lube. That's why some don't recommend it for automotive locks. I'll have to check out the triflow stuff.
I suppose it depends on the lock and where it has electric contacts?

quote:
Local locksmith shop recommended triflow, said to stay away from graphite since it gums up the lock. I had a house lock rebuilt that was worn out. It was full of chunks of graphite.
Graphite is not ideal in a moist climate, because then it actually does attract dirt. It seem to work well in dry climate. Also, not very much powdered graphite is necessary to lube the lock properly. You wouldn't want to get they key greasy each time you lock or unlock you car.

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#597279 - 12/31/04 08:16 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
labman Offline


Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 8711
Loc: Nothern USA
quote:
Originally posted by Kestas:
I've heard the graphite lube isn't good for modern cars. Nowadays the locks have electrical contacts that can go buggy on you if you use the graphite lube. That's why some don't recommend it for automotive locks. I'll have to check out the triflow stuff.

One more disadvantage of gadgets more bother than they are worth. I haste the power windows I got stuck with on my Cavalier. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

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#597280 - 01/01/05 04:35 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
pitzel Offline


Registered: 09/13/04
Posts: 1478
Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
My car owner's manual says 5W-30 Synthetic motor oil for lock lubrication.

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#597281 - 01/01/05 07:28 PM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
msparks Offline


Registered: 06/11/02
Posts: 3334
Loc: Clarksville, Tennessee
Amsoil sells a synthetic spray grease. I've used it on locks before. I've also used the Amsoil Metal Protector but I don't think the film will last as long a grease based product.

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#597282 - 01/01/05 07:51 PM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
Kestas Offline



Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 12279
Loc: The Motor City
quote:
Originally posted by MONKEYMAN:
...I had a house lock rebuilt that was worn out. It was full of chunks of graphite...

I believe graphite lube is simply graphite with a solvent carrier that dries off. A little bit of graphite is good. I suppose if you lube it too often you'll accumulate a lot of dried powder.

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#597283 - 01/02/05 11:15 PM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
edvanp Offline


Registered: 09/18/03
Posts: 494
Loc: Michigan
I've had good luck with MMO [Cool]

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#597284 - 05/07/05 06:16 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
04.SPT.WRX Offline


Registered: 04/29/05
Posts: 24
Loc: Southeastern, PA
I knew a Medeco authorized locksmith several years ago who swore by this stuff:

http://www.super-lube.com/product_description.htm

I have been using it ever since.

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#597285 - 05/07/05 06:26 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
VaderSS Offline


Registered: 06/10/02
Posts: 2077
Loc: Cordelia, CA
Mobil 1 spray works great, if you already have some.

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#597286 - 05/10/05 05:33 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
John K Offline


Registered: 09/06/03
Posts: 950
Loc: Loveland, Ohio
Probably not the issue but I've been warned to not use key rings with lots of keys because the weight can wear out the lock, going over bumps etc. Some people have lots of stuff hanging off of their key rings..... Something I never thought of until the Honda service manager pointed it out. He used the criteria that if he could hold the ignition key between thumb and forefinger it was ok.

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#597287 - 07/11/05 02:46 AM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
Jim 5 Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 4009
Loc: Calgary Canada
GM Specifically recommends 5w30 on the locks and ignition of my '98 K1500. It's pretty easy to come by. I usually dip my key halfway in 5w30 and then run it in and out of the doors and ignition.

That reminds me..it's about time.

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#597288 - 08/10/05 05:38 PM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
kc8adu Offline


Registered: 08/02/05
Posts: 893
Loc: dayton oh
dri-slide works well in locks.
iirc it is moly in kerosene or stoddard.
and the can has a needle spout suitable for locks.

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#597289 - 08/10/05 06:06 PM Re: Good Oil for Locks ?
kenw Offline


Registered: 10/10/04
Posts: 1979
Loc: Houston
quote:
Originally posted by DNaatz:
So lotsa different advice(s) here.
My specific question relates on what's good for an ignition key that occasionally jams but always eventually starts the car.
I suggest WD40 which I have used in outside door locks and should not harm any electrical wiring it might get into - vs comments on graphite in earlier posts not being good for electrical contacts.

Any other thoughts for lubing the ignition switch tumblers?

actually it's probably not the tumblers. It's the steering lock.

You will notice that when this happens, your steering will only budge one way, meaning it is jammed in one direction. Turn the steering wheel in the direction that it WILL turn and try it. 99/100 this is the problem.

Had a friend once who had sprayed so much stuff in the lock that it wass dripping out of the steering column. I reached in, gave the wheel a yank and it fixed it. He still thinks the lock tumblers were jammed and I only "broke them loose". I highly doubt it, but it's not worth arguing.

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