UPS orders new 747-8s

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Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Originally Posted By: mjoekingz28
I like the older ones, the 747-400 I believe. It worked-well! Now they have been sitting on their hands like automotive engineers do and have come up with gimmicks to stay busy. Really? A nose that folds like the hood of an automobile.......
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C'mon, guy... learn a little history. The 747-100 was originally designed, at least partially, to compete for the military cargo lift spec that the C5 Galaxy won. The swing up nose door was an option FROM THE START. A nose door was part of the military's requirement set. In fact that's the ONLY reason that the 747 is a 2-deck design, the purpose of the upper deck was to allow the cockpit to remain fixed while the nose swung up so that all the flight controls wouldn't have to operate through a massive hinge system.

The military went with the C5 rear ramp/high wing design and its probably a little more useful for that application because it carries its own loading ramp in the rear as well as a low nose so you can drive a tank right through a C5. The high nose requires infrastructure at the airport where loading/unloading will happen, and *that* is fine for air cargo operations. The 747 turned out to be a much better airframe than the C5 in the long run, but the C5 configuration is better for the military (basically same layout as the previous C-141) and was pretty much repeated with the C-17.
They use a big forklift to unload the 747 freighters.
 
Originally Posted By: maximus


You really have no idea what you're talking about. Aircraft manufacturing is nothing at all like cars on assembly line. Each ship is skillfully, handcrafted much like a Rolls Royce or skyscraper. Every rivet is installed by hand.



And the assembly line moves with the plane as well - I toured Boeing's Everett plant, while I didn't see workers setting rivets in by hand, it's truly a marvel seeing people build things that defy gravity. I didn't see too much of the 787 line, the tour was mostly on the 777 line.
 
"They use a big forklift to unload the 747 freighters."

"They", UPS and others worldwide use large, standard "K" loaders to upload and download 747's.
There are some operations that do indeed use forklifts to load aircraft. Airborne Express used to, for instance,
though they had no 747's.
It would take a very large forklift to service the 74.
 
I have only seen big forklifts at SFO when I was fixing forklifts at the air freight companies. The loaders seem the way to go.
 
Originally Posted By: Chris Meutsch
Boeing probably gave them a sweet deal. I'm happy that the 747 lives on. I wish the MD-88 could live on or was re-made. (McDonnell) Douglas made the most robust aircraft ever.


I don't know who Boeing uses today, but they used to offer financing through GE Financial.
 
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