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It is like if a virgin should try to tell a prostitute how to do her "job".
And that analogy makes you the....?
And that analogy makes you the....?
I do not know much about SynLube but I do know at the shop we found the BG flush caused problems in a number of cars. We had a Fusion, a Focus a Subaru and a Toyota Corolla all report problems with this miracle oil.So why take a chance???? If it works do not fix it.
I like how the "Synlube MicroGlass" filter is actually a HardDriver (or did Synlube just steal the graphics?), which I think has a Donaldson construction.
So are the Synlube folks relabelers or plagarists?
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So are the Synlube folks relabelers or plagarists?
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I really dont get the stuff. BUT, I like their idea.
I figure if you could make an oil last the life of the car, and equip it with a filtration system that would handle it, it would really help out with the oil demand.
BUT, they'll need to do a lot more than theyre doing to make their product a serious contender. Their website doesnt help much.
I figure if you could make an oil last the life of the car, and equip it with a filtration system that would handle it, it would really help out with the oil demand.
BUT, they'll need to do a lot more than theyre doing to make their product a serious contender. Their website doesnt help much.
Originally Posted By: jonny-b
I tried it for 73000 kilometers in one car.
I really liked it, and it performed really good.
Reduced oil consumption and reduced noise from engine, springs to mind.
Had to drain it, because I was going to try other products.
Have taken care of the used Synlube, and will use it later.
People at this board that is trying to tell others what Synlube is capable of or not, without trying it, should find something better to do.
It is like if a virgin should try to tell a prostitute how to do her "job".
As I said:
Originally Posted By: labman
So who has run the stuff 100-200K?
I am not going to be an early adopter.
I tried it for 73000 kilometers in one car.
I really liked it, and it performed really good.
Reduced oil consumption and reduced noise from engine, springs to mind.
Had to drain it, because I was going to try other products.
Have taken care of the used Synlube, and will use it later.
People at this board that is trying to tell others what Synlube is capable of or not, without trying it, should find something better to do.
It is like if a virgin should try to tell a prostitute how to do her "job".
As I said:
Originally Posted By: labman
So who has run the stuff 100-200K?
I am not going to be an early adopter.
EVERYONE IS MISSING MY POINT. I was NOT pushing their product. I just thought their philosophy on oil viscosity weight was INTERESTING. Their table with weather and viscosity weight.
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
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I don't think flashy webpages are a substitute for a data's legitimacy.
Please, please
A great website GUARANTEES a great product
Why would SOPUS buy/market Slick50 ??...
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I don't think flashy webpages are a substitute for a data's legitimacy.
Please, please
A great website GUARANTEES a great product
Why would SOPUS buy/market Slick50 ??...
SOPUS owns Slick 50. And for the last time, Slick 50 is not the dreaded stuff it was many years ago. Shell did not believe in the formulation and did everything they could to try and sell the brand. There were no buyers at the time, however the brand sells whether you like it or not and it makes a lot of money. So, Shell completely reformulated the product to what is basically a Group II 10W-30 carrier oil with an overdose of anti-wear and anti-friction additives. And I don't believe they use any PTFE in it today.
Enough said. Everyone should talk about something they really know about.
You know I read that entire website listed above trying to slam SOPUS and Slick 50 and highly suggest slammers read it before they speak. The only Slick 50 product sold that has PTFE in it is the grease, and PTFE is a very popular additive in high end greases. ALL OF THE MAJOR COMPANIES USE IT.
Educate yourselves boys, educate.
Enough said. Everyone should talk about something they really know about.
You know I read that entire website listed above trying to slam SOPUS and Slick 50 and highly suggest slammers read it before they speak. The only Slick 50 product sold that has PTFE in it is the grease, and PTFE is a very popular additive in high end greases. ALL OF THE MAJOR COMPANIES USE IT.
Educate yourselves boys, educate.
Originally Posted By: joflewbyu2
EVERYONE IS MISSING MY POINT. I was NOT pushing their product. I just thought their philosophy on oil viscosity weight was INTERESTING. Their table with weather and viscosity weight.
I found it interesting, too. That's about 4 years ago, but unlike most people, I sat down and actually read through most of the info available on their page.
Another thing that I found interesting, is their info about mineral, synthetic and semi synthetic oil.
As well as other stuff on their page.
I found it very informative, and worth reading.
But hey, that's just me, and I respect others are having an other angle at this, and just say that all info there is just [censored] and not worth reading.
Most of these people saying so, also give that statement after choosing NOT to read anything.....
Interesting.
EVERYONE IS MISSING MY POINT. I was NOT pushing their product. I just thought their philosophy on oil viscosity weight was INTERESTING. Their table with weather and viscosity weight.
I found it interesting, too. That's about 4 years ago, but unlike most people, I sat down and actually read through most of the info available on their page.
Another thing that I found interesting, is their info about mineral, synthetic and semi synthetic oil.
As well as other stuff on their page.
I found it very informative, and worth reading.
But hey, that's just me, and I respect others are having an other angle at this, and just say that all info there is just [censored] and not worth reading.
Most of these people saying so, also give that statement after choosing NOT to read anything.....
Interesting.
"But due to unique colloidal technology used in SynLube™ Lube-4-Life® you still get mileage benefit that is 1.6% to 2% better than even SAE 5W-20 petroleum motor oils that are now used by OEM’s."
I KNEW it, magic is REAL! They use it in this oil.
I KNEW it, magic is REAL! They use it in this oil.
Intersting they are using colloidal MoS2 instead of the latest and greatest soluable Moly additive. Also did I read they are using colloidal PTFE?
Yes you did. They use moly, graphite, and PTFE.
I also like this one: http://www.synlube.com/FOREVER2009.htm
This one is just an example, but other places at Synlubes homepage, there are lots of other info.
If you think he has an hidden agenda to sell LESS oil, by telling you that you don't need to change it so often, you are entitled to think so.
I can not see so much wrong about arguing against many old "facts" that has emerged, over the years.
Like the narrow-minded 3000 mile OCI.
This one is just an example, but other places at Synlubes homepage, there are lots of other info.
If you think he has an hidden agenda to sell LESS oil, by telling you that you don't need to change it so often, you are entitled to think so.
I can not see so much wrong about arguing against many old "facts" that has emerged, over the years.
Like the narrow-minded 3000 mile OCI.
If your last 3 vehicles went 300K each taht is 900k miles that means taht you have driven for 64 years and SAE 5W-20 was first made by Mobil 1 in 1972 wow so you are now in 2036, beam me up Scotty !!!
Originally Posted By: Ankhmaat
If your last 3 vehicles went 300K each taht is 900k miles that means taht you have driven for 64 years and SAE 5W-20 was first made by Mobil 1 in 1972 wow so you are now in 2036, beam me up Scotty !!!
M1 5-20 first came out in 74. I used it in 78.
If your last 3 vehicles went 300K each taht is 900k miles that means taht you have driven for 64 years and SAE 5W-20 was first made by Mobil 1 in 1972 wow so you are now in 2036, beam me up Scotty !!!
M1 5-20 first came out in 74. I used it in 78.
CAR & DRIVER November 1972 Issue has MOBIL advertisement for
"Synthetic Engine Lubricant" they did not dare to call it "Motor Oil", and I doubt anyone knew what it was back then, the fact that it was SAE 5W-20 was not disclosed and other than the black square with gray "1" in it, there is not any Mobil 1 mention in the advertisement.
Apparently it was not national, as the Page on the bottom of it is numbered LA 4, so it was probably a regional insert into the magazine.
I have seen what Mobil 1 back then did to PORSCHE 911 and to HONDA 600 engines (both air cooled), I'd never put it into any car - the HONDA 600 crankshafts only lasted 18,000 on Mobil 1 and over 100,000 miles on "CASTROL GTX SAE 20W-50".
That was the difference !!!
"Synthetic Engine Lubricant" they did not dare to call it "Motor Oil", and I doubt anyone knew what it was back then, the fact that it was SAE 5W-20 was not disclosed and other than the black square with gray "1" in it, there is not any Mobil 1 mention in the advertisement.
Apparently it was not national, as the Page on the bottom of it is numbered LA 4, so it was probably a regional insert into the magazine.
I have seen what Mobil 1 back then did to PORSCHE 911 and to HONDA 600 engines (both air cooled), I'd never put it into any car - the HONDA 600 crankshafts only lasted 18,000 on Mobil 1 and over 100,000 miles on "CASTROL GTX SAE 20W-50".
That was the difference !!!
Originally Posted By: levi
It is like if a virgin should try to tell a prostitute how to do her "job".
And that analogy makes you the....?
That is one of the best replies I have ever seen! By the way some of the people who support this Synlube stuff so much are some of the most obnoxious and rude people I have ever seen on this board or another board that I sometimes visit. I think I would not want to try Synlube just because of the sort of people who seem to be some of the strongest supporters of this stuff.
And I will believe a 73,000 kilometer (45,000 mile) oil change when I see it demonstrated and proven. And not until then. I will not take somebodys 'word' for it. And I most certainly will not take somebody's word for it when they like to hurl insults whenever anybody questions their claims.
That Synlube website looks like it was designed by some high school students who have no future in computer graphical design. I know of grade school students who could have done a better job.
As far as I personally feel-Synlube is a no buy unless and until they can prove to me otherwise. And the burden of proof is on them. I can go to Wal-Mart and buy some Pennzoil Ultra that I know meets specs and I know will work perfectly fine in my car engine. I don't need Synlube. They need me.
I am half inclined to buy some of this Synlube and have it tested and see just how many of the claims made at that website are actually true. Or perhaps the FTC might be interested in checking out the claims.
It is like if a virgin should try to tell a prostitute how to do her "job".
And that analogy makes you the....?
That is one of the best replies I have ever seen! By the way some of the people who support this Synlube stuff so much are some of the most obnoxious and rude people I have ever seen on this board or another board that I sometimes visit. I think I would not want to try Synlube just because of the sort of people who seem to be some of the strongest supporters of this stuff.
And I will believe a 73,000 kilometer (45,000 mile) oil change when I see it demonstrated and proven. And not until then. I will not take somebodys 'word' for it. And I most certainly will not take somebody's word for it when they like to hurl insults whenever anybody questions their claims.
That Synlube website looks like it was designed by some high school students who have no future in computer graphical design. I know of grade school students who could have done a better job.
As far as I personally feel-Synlube is a no buy unless and until they can prove to me otherwise. And the burden of proof is on them. I can go to Wal-Mart and buy some Pennzoil Ultra that I know meets specs and I know will work perfectly fine in my car engine. I don't need Synlube. They need me.
I am half inclined to buy some of this Synlube and have it tested and see just how many of the claims made at that website are actually true. Or perhaps the FTC might be interested in checking out the claims.
If you do not believe me that I have used it for 26 years, if you do not believe the tests that are on their web donbe by AAA (you can call the Lab in Diamond Bar and talk to anybody there they all know SynLube), if you do not believe the pictures of the real customers are real, you will never believe anything !
www.ftc.gov has NOTHING on SynLube, yet has fines and actiona against any company from SHELL, CASTROL, AMSOIL, SLICK 50, for false claims and faking the tests !
Sure you can fake test in a "independent lab" that remains ALWAYS nameless, SynLube tells ytou which lab did it, none of the other companies including MOBIL do - it is SECRET
It is sad that people get sold on hype and lies by "gigants" but when there is a small company that has honest people behind it it bust be a suspect since in USA it seams the way to go is to lie and deceive if you want to make "profit".
I have talked to Miro few times over the years and his answer is that he can afford to be honest since he is doing it as a hobby (no profit for him), apparently he is rich enough individual that does not even pay himself any wages, now compare that to CEO at shell that gets $2,000,000 bonus.
Now how much PROOF have you seen on any SHELL lubricant ?
I have not seen one vehicle or one owner that claimed he used it since day one and that his car is lasting "forever" ?
My 1979 FIAT X1/9 has over 170,000 miles now with just one oil change I think in 1988 @ about 90,000 miles.
It is 2010 today in case you did not notice and I jsut driven the car yesterday after being parked for months, bit of air into tires, quick charge at 10 A on battery and no problem - for me the fact I can not drive the car for days or months is the most important aspect of SynLube, the second that I do not need to even think about oil chages and I only check the oil on all my cars every 3 months, SynLube even sends me e-mail to remind me to do so. Did AMSOIL or MOBIL ever remind you to change "filter" or check you dipstick ?
They can not afford to be that receptive to theri customer base, once you buy theri product and they get your money you are totally forgotten about just grain of sand in theri customer base and not even a real person !!!
www.ftc.gov has NOTHING on SynLube, yet has fines and actiona against any company from SHELL, CASTROL, AMSOIL, SLICK 50, for false claims and faking the tests !
Sure you can fake test in a "independent lab" that remains ALWAYS nameless, SynLube tells ytou which lab did it, none of the other companies including MOBIL do - it is SECRET
It is sad that people get sold on hype and lies by "gigants" but when there is a small company that has honest people behind it it bust be a suspect since in USA it seams the way to go is to lie and deceive if you want to make "profit".
I have talked to Miro few times over the years and his answer is that he can afford to be honest since he is doing it as a hobby (no profit for him), apparently he is rich enough individual that does not even pay himself any wages, now compare that to CEO at shell that gets $2,000,000 bonus.
Now how much PROOF have you seen on any SHELL lubricant ?
I have not seen one vehicle or one owner that claimed he used it since day one and that his car is lasting "forever" ?
My 1979 FIAT X1/9 has over 170,000 miles now with just one oil change I think in 1988 @ about 90,000 miles.
It is 2010 today in case you did not notice and I jsut driven the car yesterday after being parked for months, bit of air into tires, quick charge at 10 A on battery and no problem - for me the fact I can not drive the car for days or months is the most important aspect of SynLube, the second that I do not need to even think about oil chages and I only check the oil on all my cars every 3 months, SynLube even sends me e-mail to remind me to do so. Did AMSOIL or MOBIL ever remind you to change "filter" or check you dipstick ?
They can not afford to be that receptive to theri customer base, once you buy theri product and they get your money you are totally forgotten about just grain of sand in theri customer base and not even a real person !!!
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In the Matter of Exxon Corporation, The Shell Petroleum Company ...... Affairs. In the Matter of Exxon Corporation, The Shell Petroleum Company Limited,
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