ZIF connector for a laptop keyboard

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Today, I took apart my HP compaq 6510b laptop to clean the dust off of the heat shrink. the laptop was overheating every other day and shutting down by itself and the fan ran constantly on high. well, when it was time to put it back together. the ZIF connector on the keyboard ribbon broke. it's a tiny black plastic piece used to snap and anchor the keyboard ribbon into the motherboard connector. anyone know if I can buy this tiny piece at? I've been goggling and people say you have to buy a whole new mobo. really? this ZIF connector isn't part of the mobo at all, it's part of the ribbon. It seems folks who sell the replacement keyboard for this model, don't give you another zif connector.
 
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Originally Posted By: Cutehumor
Today, I took apart my HP compaq 6510b laptop to clean the dust off of the heat shrink. the laptop was overheating every other day and shutting down by itself and the fan ran constantly on high. well, when it was time to put it back together. the ZIF connector on the keyboard ribbon broke. it's a tiny black plastic piece used to snap and anchor the keyboard ribbon into the motherboard connector. anyone know if I can buy this tiny piece at? I've been goggling and people say you have to buy a whole new mobo. really? this ZIF connector isn't part of the mobo at all, it's part of the ribbon. It seems folks who sell the replacement keyboard for this model, don't give you another zif connector.



I have busted those clips before. I just tape them in.
 
That sounds like a toughie. It could be difficult to determine the manufacturer and model of the ZIF connector, but if you do there's Mouser Electronics and Digi-Key Electronics, that's where I'd start. Maybe you could wheedle a sample connector from the manufacturer of the connector, if you figure it out. Maybe a computer repair shop has one available, I'm thinking the type of place that has a pile of junk in the back. just a few thoughts. Good luck.
 
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
Originally Posted By: Cutehumor
Today, I took apart my HP compaq 6510b laptop to clean the dust off of the heat shrink. the laptop was overheating every other day and shutting down by itself and the fan ran constantly on high. well, when it was time to put it back together. the ZIF connector on the keyboard ribbon broke. it's a tiny black plastic piece used to snap and anchor the keyboard ribbon into the motherboard connector. anyone know if I can buy this tiny piece at? I've been goggling and people say you have to buy a whole new mobo. really? this ZIF connector isn't part of the mobo at all, it's part of the ribbon. It seems folks who sell the replacement keyboard for this model, don't give you another zif connector.



I have busted those clips before. I just tape them in.


I tried tape, I couldn't get all the keys to work. but for some reason the ribbon isn't "grabbing" inside of the contacts in the mobo connector. The ribbon isn't damaged.
 
Originally Posted By: Rick in PA
That sounds like a toughie. It could be difficult to determine the manufacturer and model of the ZIF connector, but if you do there's Mouser Electronics and Digi-Key Electronics, that's where I'd start. Maybe you could wheedle a sample connector from the manufacturer of the connector, if you figure it out. Maybe a computer repair shop has one available, I'm thinking the type of place that has a pile of junk in the back. just a few thoughts. Good luck.


there's no logo on company name on the connector, HP tech support couldn't tell me. I'll try a computer shop tomorrow and see if they got one
 
Expoxy? Or some JB Weld putty?

I'm being only half facetious. Chances are you won't be taking this apart again.

I've pulled apart laptops before, but never to clean the heatsinks, only to put better thermal paste on the CPU and GPU (arctic sliver).

Otherwise, I just use that canned air stuff to spray out the heat sink.
 
Originally Posted By: buickman50401
Expoxy? Or some JB Weld putty?

I'm being only half facetious. Chances are you won't be taking this apart again.

I've pulled apart laptops before, but never to clean the heatsinks, only to put better thermal paste on the CPU and GPU (arctic sliver).

Otherwise, I just use that canned air stuff to spray out the heat sink.

Doesn't that just push some of the dust into the laptop housing?

Also, I've pulled rather large dust bunnies out of some laptop heatsink assemblies, usually in the plastic shroud around the fan. And of course remounted the heatsinks using Arctic Silver, which won't dry out like the factory crud.
 
Try to slip a piece of precision cut notecard into the slot along with the ribbon, if there's one side that doesn't have contacts on it, that is. That's basically the same thing the piece you broke is doing, just holding it in using pressure. If it works, epoxy it in place.
 
Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
Try to slip a piece of precision cut notecard into the slot along with the ribbon, if there's one side that doesn't have contacts on it, that is. That's basically the same thing the piece you broke is doing, just holding it in using pressure. If it works, epoxy it in place.


thanks for the tip. I knew there's gotta be a trick for handling stuff like this.
 
Okay, I've found some helpful links for other's in the same dilemma.



Start with this one for how to fix the curse of the zif connector:



http://www.laptoprepair101.com/laptop/20...-motherboard...



Note: If you look closely at your connector, you will see that there are two (2) rows of pins. The ribbon cable goes between them. I also, since the ribbon cable is very short (grrr), positioned the cable and then taped it in place. placing the tape as far back on the cable as allowed, so that I could have easy and free access to the connector. Also, the cable on the keyboard side is attached with an elastic glue. I GENTLY pulled the cable off of the the keyboard metal backing a LITTLE bit. This gave me more slack to work with.



And for those who are thinking of doing it themselves, go here first:



http://www.insidemylaptop.com/replace-keyboard-in-hp-mini-1033cl-notebook/



Above is is not for the dv7, but pay attention to the part where the removal/opening of the zif connector is discussed. It may save you some aggravation.



The alternative is to have HP tech do it for between $250-$350. OUCH!


Also:


I have never found a source for zif connector parts, other than old notebooks that are kept as parts donors.



If the zif socket is not broken, just the latch:



Sometimes you can make a paper shim to insert next to the cable down in the socket to keep the cable tight in the socket, just did a Sony the other day using that method. You have to experiment on how thick it needs to be, thick enough to hold the cable and not fall out, but not too thick where you cannot insert it, you can use other materials such as thin plastic, I use paper because it is easier to get the right thickness and width by using different thickness paper and folding. It needs to be the full width of the zif socket to hold even pressure against all the contacts of the cable. Slip the cable in the zif socket, then your shim next to it, its not easy but I have done this many times.



Any material that does not conduct electricity will work.
 
Full and (hopefully) complete How-To:


Re: keyboard zif connector - NOW - How To Fix


12-13-2011 07:54 PM - last edited on 12-16-2011 03:29 PM

Okay, I have found some helpful links for other's in the same dilemma.

For those who are thinking of doing it themselves, go here first (review and keep reading on):

http://www.insidemylaptop.com/replace-keyboard-in-hp-mini-1033cl-notebook/

NOTE: The above link is is not for the dv7, but pay attention to the part where the removal/opening of the zif connector is discussed. It may save you some aggravation.

And, if you snafued the connector, start with this one on how to fix the curse of the broken zif connector:

http://www.laptoprepair101.com/laptop/20...-motherboard...


Then read on for the steps I performed, after reviewing the prior links and Mumbodogs input (at the bottom), to resolve this.


REMEMBER: The alternative is to have HP tech do it for between $250-$350. OUCH!


The following are the steps I went through to perform the fix.

The below steps are a bit sporadic. So READ through the whole thing thoroughly FIRST before proceeding (rewrite may ensue).

NOTE: I used a lighted magnifying lamp to assist in the below procedures.

NOTE: If you look closely at your connector, you will see that there are two (2) rows of pins (The exposed contacts of the ribbon cable should be facing down, so that they are making contact with the bottom pins). The ribbon cable goes between them. When re-inserting the zif's top black connector. Observe that on one side it is toothed, like a comb, this end goes towards the board's zif connector (facing the pins). You will have to observe and figure out which side is up. I also, since the ribbon cable is very short (grrr), positioned the cable and then taped it in place. Placing the tape as far back on the cable as allowed, so that I could have easy and free access to the connector without the cable shifting out of the connector. Also, the cable on the keyboard side is attached with an elastic glue. I GENTLY pulled the cable off of the the keyboard metal backing a LITTLE bit, NOT all the way. This gave me more slack to work with. If you can get by with the slack there is, then don't do it

Now, referencing Mumbodog's fix (further down), I used business card stock (my business card - standard?) cut to fit the width of the connector and approximately a half inch in depth, and a piece of 20lb paper, also cut, but approximately half the depth. The reason for the different depths will become apparent as you read further. I will refer to these as shims. Note: Make sure they are square!

Carefully insert the ribbon cable between the zif connector's two rows of pins, making sure to check the tabs on each side of the cable are seated properly. Secure it with the scotch tape, as mentioned previously (trust me, this will make the next steps a lot easier to perform).

NOTE: Before performing the next step, I had dispensed the tape (scotch) in a length long enough to cover the connector and over onto the metal plate that the keyboard rests on. Dispense enough tape to have excess so that you can fold over each end to create pull tabs. If you don't seat the cable properly on the first try, this will make it easier to remove the tape and try again. Note: Do the same for the piece used to secure the ribbon cable initially.

NOTE: The keyboard will probably want to keep shifting over the zif connector, getting in the way. I used a roll of electrical tape to raise it and brace it back from the work area. Don't go too drastic on trying to keep it out of the way. You don't want to crimp the ribbon cable! Handle everything gingerly.

NOTE: To make the next step easier, I used a 90 degree dental pick to help seat the shims in place. If you have fat fingers, this can save you a lot of aggravation.

Once the cable is inserted and secured, where it wont shift on you. First insert the 20lb paper shim, under the top row of pins, so that it is squarely seated against the connector. Then, insert the biz card shim between the 20lb shim and the cable (the biz-card stock having more depth gives one something to push on when working it between the cable and 20lb stock). It may get caught on the blue reinforcing strip, so go slow and work it until you can insert it in between the two and have it flush against the zif connector's back. I then placed the zif's top black part on top of the paper shims. This done to place more pressure on the ribbon cable ensuring proper contact with the pins. Then apply the tape to firmly secure everything.






Also of note, from Mumbodog:

I have never found a source for zif connector parts, other than old notebooks that are kept as parts donors.

If the zif socket is not broken, just the latch:

Sometimes you can make a paper shim to insert next to the cable down in the socket to keep the cable tight in the socket, just did a Sony the other day using that method. You have to experiment on how thick it needs to be, thick enough to hold the cable and not fall out, but not too thick where you cannot insert it, you can use other materials such as thin plastic, I use paper because it is easier to get the right thickness and width by using different thickness paper and folding. It needs to be the full width of the zif socket to hold even pressure against all the contacts of the cable. Slip the cable in the zif socket, then your shim next to it, its not easy but I have done this many times.

Any material that does not conduct electricity will work.
 
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