Yes, There Have Been Aliens

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"We came to this planet looking for intelligent life. Oops, we made a mistake."

Aliens live in the earth under Antarctica. Just ask a certain WW2 pilot on an expedition!

Thats all I got.
 
Radio signals from earth deteriorate in deep space rather rapidly only several light years out into space, (Explorer missions from earth have proven this) I think looking for radio signals from other far off planets would be a waste of time, as they would not make it here,even if they used the radio spectrum as we know it.
 
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
Radio signals from earth deteriorate in deep space rather rapidly only several light years out into space, (Explorer missions from earth have proven this) I think looking for radio signals from other far off planets would be a waste of time, as they would not make it here,even if they used the radio spectrum as we know it.


I believe the range is about 100 light years.
 
It bothers me when people see something they don't understand and immediately come to the conclusion that it must be the result of extraterrestrials. Way too much of that going on.
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
It bothers me when people see something they don't understand and immediately come to the conclusion that it must be the result of extraterrestrials. Way too much of that going on.


You mean the pyramids weren't erected by ETs?

I'm sad now.
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Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
Visitors from The Orion star belt were here and "Seeded" life as we know it. Ive come to believe that might have some truth. this is my beliefs and Im mostly quiet about it. I have no proof, just open minded, done some research, and find the topic fascinating.


I'm open to exogenesis, but how did you figure out exactly where these "visitors" came from?
 
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Originally Posted By: article
we now have enough information to conclude that they almost certainly existed at some point in cosmic history.


Making conclusions without actual proof is a poor excuse for science. The "almost certainly" phrase is completely incompetent and renders the entire article worthless.

While I personally believe it is possible that there is other life in the universe, until it's proven it just remains speculation-nothing more. It's not definitive until it's proven.


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True, and most of Cosmology is just this, speculation.


Originally Posted By: Kestas
It bothers me when people see something they don't understand and immediately come to the conclusion that it must be the result of extraterrestrials. Way too much of that going on.


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“The bright sun was extinguish'd, and the stars
Did wander darkling in the eternal space.”
- George Gordon Byron


“Something deeply hidden had to be behind things.”
- Albert Einstein, Autobiographical Notes


“The full cosmos consists of the physical stuff and consciousness. Take away consciousness and it's only dust; add consciousness and you get things, ideas, and time.”
- Neal Stephenson, Anathem
 
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Originally Posted By: linkbelt
If aliens are really smart, they will just fly on by this place!


What makes you think they're flying? Maybe they're not around because they're reached their singularity.

With dark energy causing an acceleration of the universe, those aliens beyond 13.5 billion light years won't even be visible.

For fun, you guys should google alien mega structure. The speculation is that there might be a Dyson's sphere or swarm out there as the output of a sun has dimmed a lot over the last 100 years. That's the most remote possiblity, it's probably something else.
 
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Originally Posted By: Wolf359
The real problem is that the speed of light probably can't be overcome. The other question also is how many of those aliens make it to a radio civilization.
They do it all the time on Star wars!
 
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Originally Posted By: Wolf359
The real problem is that the speed of light probably can't be overcome. The other question also is how many of those aliens make it to a radio civilization.
They do it all the time on Star wars!


Yeah, but that's fiction. Just like Game of Thrones, otherwise we'd have to worry about white walkers and the undead.

Reality is actually sometime more interesting than fiction, the concept of dark energy is pretty fascinating, makes up 68.3% of the universe.
 
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Originally Posted By: CT8
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
The real problem is that the speed of light probably can't be overcome. The other question also is how many of those aliens make it to a radio civilization.
They do it all the time on Star wars!


Yeah, but that's fiction. Just like Game of Thrones, otherwise we'd have to worry about white walkers and the undead.

Reality is actually sometime more interesting than fiction, the concept of dark energy is pretty fascinating, makes up 68.3% of the universe.


Exactly. Everyone knows the whitewalkers have been gone for thousands of years. No need to worry!
 
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Yeah, but that's fiction. Just like Game of Thrones, otherwise we'd have to worry about white walkers and the undead.

Reality is actually sometime more interesting than fiction, the concept of dark energy is pretty fascinating, makes up 68.3% of the universe.


Exactly. Everyone knows the whitewalkers have been gone for thousands of years. No need to worry!


Yes, no worries here! I'm more worried about the heat death of the universe in roughly 10^10^10^56 years. What are we going to do at that point?
 
It's really a numbers game.

A few statements in the article stand out to me:

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Instead of asking how many civilizations currently exist, we asked what the probability is that ours is the only technological civilization that has ever appeared.


How ARROGANT and small-minded would we be...to assume...that, given the SIZE of this galaxy...let alone the known universe...that we are the only civilization to arise.

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Specifically, unless the probability for evolving a civilization on a habitable-zone planet is less than one in 10 billion trillion, then we are not the first.

To give some context for that figure: In previous discussions of the Drake equation, a probability for civilizations to form of one in 10 billion per planet was considered highly pessimistic. According to our finding, even if you grant that level of pessimism, a trillion civilizations still would have appeared over the course of cosmic history.


TO me, those numbers rule out the possibility that we're alone. Good Lord, just think of how many stars (and FAR more planets!)exist solely in the Milky Way!

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In other words, given what we now know about the number and orbital positions of the galaxy’s planets, the degree of pessimism required to doubt the existence, at some point in time, of an advanced extraterrestrial civilization borders on the irrational.


Yes...exactly...This.
 
If Aliens are visiting the Earth, I just have a few questions:

What kind of Oil are they using in their spaceships?

Do Amsoil distributors exist in the Andromeda Galaxy?

Exactly how fast is "Plaid"?
 
Originally Posted By: john_pifer
It's really a numbers game.

How ARROGANT and small-minded would we be...to assume...that, given the SIZE of this galaxy...let alone the known universe...that we are the only civilization to arise.



I think the jury is still out on that one on either end. It's possible that the speed of light is really the limiting factor and while other civilizations may have rose, they may have also fallen, the universe has been around for a little over 13 billion years so the last civilization could have died out millions or billions of years ago.

Or there's the concept of the singularity, once a civilization goes beyond that, maybe they don't care about others. You actually don't even need that concept, may the others just don't care.

Oh and when the Milky way collides with the Andromeda galaxy in about 4 billion years, then assuming Amsoil is still around, there will be distributors in both galaxies.
 
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