would you welcome a cheaper Chinese electric Volt?

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/automobiles/autoreviews/byd-f3-dm-review.html?pagewanted=all

Some choicy snips:

"Think of the F3DM as a Chevrolet Volt with a Wal-Mart price tag, a car with a large-capacity battery — that delivered 31 miles of uninterrupted pure-electric driving for me — as well as a gasoline engine that gives it the ability to go an additional 300 miles."

" The F3DM — which does have an auxiliary audio input jack and a parking sensor — is expected to sell for less than $29,000. Incentives could drop the price closer to $20,000."

"If my destination had been in those first 30 to 40 miles, which the F3DM can easily achieve with sensible driving techniques, and I had the opportunity to charge the car for a full work day or overnight, the gas in the 8-gallon tank would go stale before having a chance to be burned in an engine."
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" It was once thought impossible that Japanese and Korean cars would ride alongside Fords, Chevys and Dodges on American roadways. After my day with the impressive, though imperfect, F3DM, I see that Chinese cars—electric and affordable — are not only possible, but imminent."


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Some thoughts:

1. the car looks like my 2007 Corolla, inside and out... except shoddier and cheaper.

2. I would seriously consider this car if the price is right: about $20,000 *AND* if the car proves reliable.

3. if the price differential between this and the Nissan Leaf is less than 8,000 --- I think I'll take the Leaf!!
 
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I fear it will be only a matter of time before the Chinese improve their quality and capacity and then it will be game over for US automakers.
 
I am not making the following as a political statement so hopefully it is not perceived as such. IT is a patriotic, protect our country, statement.

I would NOT buy that anyway but a huge reason would be due to the location( i.e. country of origian )of the car mfg that made it. China is destroying our country's economy. It is bad enough I have to buy things made there from US companies but I will not, when I can possibly avoid it, buy something made in China by a mfg company from China.

At some point we need to realize what is happening. Also, until China allows equal opportunity and acccess to their market for our vehicles and products then it should not even be allowed to be sold here.
 
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Given what I have seen through real testing of Chinese LI-ion cell quality, no time soon...
 
Just what we need on our roads. Cheap, Chinese automobiles.
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This reminds me of the end scene of that 1980's movie with Michael Keaton..."Gung Ho"...
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It will take them a few more years to reverse engineer the Volt and steal the design...
 
I hate to say it, but this looks like the first successful Chinese car in the US market. It could be a huge hit as there is no competition in this price range and gas prices could be soaring much more.
 
Any idea if the platform is shared with anything else?

The Kia Spectra got Kia on US shores with a recycled and battle tested mazda protege heritage.

But this thing combines the horror of strange Chinese hard parts (steering racks, wheel bearings, possibly not well rustproofed undercarriage) with unknown programming for battery maintenance, with a battery that seems to get stretched to its capacity (like the leaf, unlike the prius), with a battery from the lowest sweatshop bidder. Note NY times didn't have any dirt on the actual battery.

Good idea and price point but I wouldn't be an early adopter.

You'll note the Olds Toronado when it came out spent so much R&D money on the newfangled FWD drivetrain that the interior was kinda cheezy. With this car, who knows where the money lies? Is that 3 cyl engine even in anything else? What is the sum of its parts?

I like its styling except the extra inch or so of spring height in the fenders making it look ready to do some baja racing.
 
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I would NOT buy that anyway but a huge reason would be due to the location( i.e. country of origian )of the car mfg that made it. China is destroying our country's economy. It is bad enough I have to buy things made there from US companies but I will not, when I can possibly avoid it, buy something made in China by a mfg company from China.

Its an interesting statement, sort of reminiscent of when people had the same feelings about Japan. Not sure if many folks have the same feeling still about Japan.
 
What do the DOT have to say about this model? I still have visions of the crash test results from chinese-made vehicles that scare the daylights out of me. The videos of these crashes have been linked on this site at one point.
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
What do the DOT have to say about this model? I still have visions of the crash test results from chinese-made vehicles that scare the daylights out of me. The videos of these crashes have been linked on this site at one point.


I don't think it would make it on NTSA or IIHS crash testing. I can just see it now, in the aisles of Wal-mart, next to the BBq grilles.
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Let me understand this, the new volt (or Cholt) will travel appx half the distance of my TDI VW for the same or more fuel cost and vastly more CO2 emissions?

I am to be excited about this why?
 
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Let me understand this, the new volt (or Cholt) will travel appx half the distance of my TDI VW for the same or more fuel cost and vastly more CO2 emissions?

I am to be excited about this why?


Simple, because the greenines and the government somehow come up to the conclusion that anything electric is good for the environment and anything that has an IC engine is bad. So, if you ignore logic and facts and stick blindly to that view, pushing cars like Volt and Leaf becomes a priority no matter the TRUE cost to the taxpayer and environment.

Electric cars + Cap and Trade (or whatever it is called) = huge money for someone??? It actually makes sense, and if true, really bad news for us regular schmoes.
 
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