In the past I used Defraggler by Periform and it seemed to be better than what windows offered. I now have a new Computer running 8.1. What is a good free defrager?
WINDOWS 8 DEFRAGER?
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...Piriform products should handle 8.1 no problem.
I was wondering if the newer Windows defrager was better than most of the free ones like Piriform?
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I have 8.1 and I use both Eddie. Just alternate them.
Good idea Triple-Se7en.
Originally Posted By: Eddie
I was wondering if the newer Windows defrager was better than most of the free ones like Piriform?
Depends how you define "better". I doubt most people will notice a difference in typical usage.
I was wondering if the newer Windows defrager was better than most of the free ones like Piriform?
Depends how you define "better". I doubt most people will notice a difference in typical usage.
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Originally Posted By: DBMaster
Regardless of the software used the actual need to defrag declined dramatically with Windows 7. Correct me if I'm wrong. It may have begun when MS switched to NTFS from FAT32.
Correct (and it started before 7, really started with Win 2K). And also, all defrag programs use the MS system to perform the actual work. It is just how the files are defragged that changes. In application, performance between the built-in Windows one, which you never need to touch, and a stand-alone product are indiscernible to any end user. It is more the desire to be "doing something" that drives people to aftermarket defrag products.
Regardless of the software used the actual need to defrag declined dramatically with Windows 7. Correct me if I'm wrong. It may have begun when MS switched to NTFS from FAT32.
Correct (and it started before 7, really started with Win 2K). And also, all defrag programs use the MS system to perform the actual work. It is just how the files are defragged that changes. In application, performance between the built-in Windows one, which you never need to touch, and a stand-alone product are indiscernible to any end user. It is more the desire to be "doing something" that drives people to aftermarket defrag products.
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Originally Posted By: DBMaster
So, it was with the switch to NTFS? I used Win 2K for longer than any of the other iterations. It was just so stable.
Yeah, which, IIRC, happened with NT4. But it had no built-in defragging program, whilst 2K came with a feature-deprived version of Diskeeper.
So, it was with the switch to NTFS? I used Win 2K for longer than any of the other iterations. It was just so stable.
Yeah, which, IIRC, happened with NT4. But it had no built-in defragging program, whilst 2K came with a feature-deprived version of Diskeeper.
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Yeah, clouded primarily by the almost parallel release of the abortion that was Windows ME, that had Win 2K's GUI slapped on top of Windows 98 with DOS "hidden" and a pile of broken features shoved in with the package.
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wow, I havet thought about defragging in years. Wonder if it is needed on Mac.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
wow, I havet thought about defragging in years. Wonder if it is needed on Mac.
It's highly recommended on anything that uses a mechanical HDD and not an SSD. If you have an SSD you never need (nor want) to defrag.
wow, I havet thought about defragging in years. Wonder if it is needed on Mac.
It's highly recommended on anything that uses a mechanical HDD and not an SSD. If you have an SSD you never need (nor want) to defrag.
I have used both the Piriform and Auslogics product in the past. After months of monitoring it, I really discerned no difference in performance between those and Windows' built-in application. I don't have the laptop defrag anymore (SSD), and I let Windows 8.1 automagically keep our desktop squared away.
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
wow, I havet thought about defragging in years. Wonder if it is needed on Mac.
It's highly recommended on anything that uses a mechanical HDD and not an SSD. If you have an SSD you never need (nor want) to defrag.
It actually depends on the FS. Many linux file systems do not require defragmenting.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
wow, I havet thought about defragging in years. Wonder if it is needed on Mac.
It's highly recommended on anything that uses a mechanical HDD and not an SSD. If you have an SSD you never need (nor want) to defrag.
It actually depends on the FS. Many linux file systems do not require defragmenting.
Just use Window's defragger. Modern HDDs are plenty fast and Windows does a wonderful job of defragging when the computer is idle.
If you want more performance from your HDD the only real useful answer is an SSD instead of fussing with which defrag is best. Even plugging in a spare USB flash drive to use as SuperFetch is a better solution to a slow HDD. Seriously.
The other defrag programs do offer customizations on how or what to defrag. Like defragging the file structure bitmaps, but again these days it's a waste of time.
If you want more performance from your HDD the only real useful answer is an SSD instead of fussing with which defrag is best. Even plugging in a spare USB flash drive to use as SuperFetch is a better solution to a slow HDD. Seriously.
The other defrag programs do offer customizations on how or what to defrag. Like defragging the file structure bitmaps, but again these days it's a waste of time.
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Originally Posted By: razel
Just use Window's defragger. Modern HDDs are plenty fast and Windows does a wonderful job of defragging when the computer is idle.
Just curious! How do you know it does a wonderful job?
Just use Window's defragger. Modern HDDs are plenty fast and Windows does a wonderful job of defragging when the computer is idle.
Just curious! How do you know it does a wonderful job?
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted By: razel
Just use Window's defragger. Modern HDDs are plenty fast and Windows does a wonderful job of defragging when the computer is idle.
Just curious! How do you know it does a wonderful job?
It doesn't but it is good enough for most folks.
Originally Posted By: razel
Just use Window's defragger. Modern HDDs are plenty fast and Windows does a wonderful job of defragging when the computer is idle.
Just curious! How do you know it does a wonderful job?
It doesn't but it is good enough for most folks.
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