Windows 11 filling hard drives

Excel o365 32bit on some 2020ish HPs would beg to disagree. Turn on Turbo mode in the Bios, and watch Excel crash and burn every three minutes if it starts at all, in a beautiful display of I crash beacause I can.
They have to leave the crash feature in there for backwards compatibility. 😁
 
I think the one was a piece of parts lookup software that was creating the crash dump files. The problem there is that even though they are in a temp directory, Microsoft's automatic cleanup (Storage Sense) wasn't removing them.

OEM HP driver updater program?

And, more immediately, RAM prices!

I'm pulling out all the DDR4/5 RAM out of the work PCs going to e-waste. It's crazy the RAM I bought 4 years ago has gone up 3x in price.
 
OEM HP driver updater program?
No, car parts lookup software, runs in Java, it's a pile of crap, lol.
I'm pulling out all the DDR4/5 RAM out of the work PCs going to e-waste. It's crazy the RAM I bought 4 years ago has gone up 3x in price.
Yeah, RAM has gone NUTTY. My video card (RTX 5060ti) is now worth $200 more than I paid for it :poop:
 
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I'm pulling out all the DDR4/5 RAM out of the work PCs going to e-waste. It's crazy the RAM I bought 4 years ago has gone up 3x in price.
Last year I built an AI workstation. I was trying to decide between 128GB and 64GB of RAM. Well I sure wish I’d bought 128GB now as it’s worth 4x as much!!
 
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No, car parts lookup software, runs in Java, it's a pile of crap, lol.

Yeah, RAM has gone NUTTY. My video card (RTX 5060ti) is now worth $200 more than I paid for it :poop:

That made me look up my gpu price.....3x the price now vs before. This may be a great investment if I sell now lol
 
Interesting topic. Thanks for raising it, as I had never heard that issue before.

Some reasons not to use Windows 11:

1. Telemetry

2. Privacy concerns about your data.
Opening a spreadsheet in Microsoft Excel causes network connections to many foreign countries.
Your confidential data is getting sent all over the world, and being vulnerable if one of those servers ever got compromised.

3. Power consumption. After upgrading to Windows 11, I connected a meter to measure electric Watt usage.
I bought this one from Amazon for $33 US: P3: P4400 Kill A Watt Electricity Usage Monitor,
and it was showing very high electric usage from my 2020 year lower end laptop running Windows 11 when idle.

4. Lagging. Windows 11 seems to lag all the time, doing basic tasks. It feels like it's working on it's telemetry most of the time, and doesn't really give much CPU priority to the tasks the user wants to run.

5. Gaming: 8% slower on Windows 11 as compared to Linux.

It's worthwhile to consider the free open source alternatives:
No telemetry, no privacy issues, very low power consumption, no lagging (everything is lightning fast), gaming is fast, all free and open source, with forever updates.
 
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Interesting topic. Thanks for raising it, as I had never heard that issue before.

Some reasons not to use Windows 11:

1. Telemetry
You can turn most of this off using winutil:
https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil
2. Privacy concerns about your data.
Opening a spreadsheet in Microsoft Excel causes network connections to many foreign countries.
Your confidential data is getting sent all over the world, and being vulnerable if one of those servers ever got compromised.
This isn't a Windows 11 concern, this is a Microsoft Office one. You could of course block this with firewall rules, but if you are using Office365 and Microsoft's cloud products, you aren't getting around it.
3. Power consumption. After upgrading to Windows 11, I connected a meter to measure electric Watt usage.
I bought this one from Amazon for $33 US: P3: P4400 Kill A Watt Electricity Usage Monitor,
and it was showing very high electric usage from my 2020 year lower end laptop running Windows 11 when idle.
This could be related to updates or #1.
4. Lagging. Windows 11 seems to lag all the time, doing basic tasks. It feels like it's working on it's telemetry most of the time, and doesn't really give much CPU priority to the tasks the user wants to run.
I've never experienced that on any of the hardware I've installed it on 🤷‍♂️
5. Gaming: 8% slower on Windows 11 as compared to Linux.
That's going to depend entirely on what the game is, whether it's running through an emulator or compatibility layer (Wine for example) and of course if it even runs. There are plenty of games that do not run or do not run reliably on Linux using compatibility software through Steam for example. Getting the game to start (often the benchmark used to say a game is "compatible" or "works") is not the same as it being able to run reliably.
It's worthwhile to consider the free open source alternatives:
No telemetry, no privacy issues, very low power consumption, no lagging (everything is lightning fast), gaming is fast, all free and open source, with forever updates.
That's not really an option for business environments, which is where the computers the OP is about are located. A lot of software is Microsoft-only.

I've been using Unix and its variants/off-shoots since the early 90's, even installed FreeBSD on my 486 using a boot floppy over dial-up around 1995, but there are some applications that they simply just don't work for.
 
Interesting topic. Thanks for raising it, as I had never heard that issue before.

Some reasons not to use Windows 11:

1. Telemetry

2. Privacy concerns about your data.
Opening a spreadsheet in Microsoft Excel causes network connections to many foreign countries.
Your confidential data is getting sent all over the world, and being vulnerable if one of those servers ever got compromised.

3. Power consumption. After upgrading to Windows 11, I connected a meter to measure electric Watt usage.
I bought this one from Amazon for $33 US: P3: P4400 Kill A Watt Electricity Usage Monitor,
and it was showing very high electric usage from my 2020 year lower end laptop running Windows 11 when idle.

4. Lagging. Windows 11 seems to lag all the time, doing basic tasks. It feels like it's working on it's telemetry most of the time, and doesn't really give much CPU priority to the tasks the user wants to run.

5. Gaming: 8% slower on Windows 11 as compared to Linux.

It's worthwhile to consider the free open source alternatives:
No telemetry, no privacy issues, very low power consumption, no lagging (everything is lightning fast), gaming is fast, all free and open source, with forever updates.
To add to Overkill's reply:

1.) They can also be turned off by going to Privacy & Security. I have all these set via GPO for the company. WinUtil puts it in a nice UI though.

2.) True. However, wait until you find out people in India and the Philippines are handling your healthcare information.

3,4,5.) Not always true about all Win11 machines. My i7-13700k, 4090, and a sound card will idle at 100w. The work laptops will idle at 5-10w (screen off). I have had no performance issues directly related to Windows 11. All but two issues with work laptops have been with premature dead SSDs or OEM-specific drivers. I may have had one issue that was directly related to win11. TBH, the issues you mention sound like all the issues that come with a Win10 to 11 upgraded laptop or ones with OEM images.
 
I have the Mint installer on a thumb drive and my computer backed up on an external hard drive. I'm just waiting for the cajones to actually pull the trigger and make the jump.
 
I have the Mint installer on a thumb drive and my computer backed up on an external hard drive. I'm just waiting for the cajones to actually pull the trigger and make the jump.

Just dual boot and try not not boot in to Windows until you absolutely have to.

When/If you find something that must have Windows, just load it in a virtual machine. Hopefully, you can just remove the Windows partition after a bit.
 
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Just dual boot and try not not boot in to Windows until you absolutely have to.

When/If you find something that must have Windows, just load it in a virtual machine. Hopefully, you can just remove the Windows partition after a bit.
I was working on this last winter as part of my "Planning to Upgrade from Windows 7" project. I setup my test machine to triple-boot Win10/Win7/Linux and went through three different Linux builds before giving up (too many Linux issues & Win10 got corrupted somehow).

Over the last year I've heard interesting things about CachyOS and Bazzite so I'll probably compare those to a few different Mint distros.

Still hoping we can see an UpdatePack10 in the near future. Win10 isn't too far gone in my experience.

Any suggestions on a solid Linux distro to test or LTSC?
 
IMO, there is no Linux that's as user friendly / universal as Windows. Most people will eventually bump in to some limitation or have some issue that is just outside of their reach / fix, you may break something trying to fix it. It will be frustrating. And tax season is here ... want do to your taxes on Linux with downloaded software, and not some cloud solution? That's not so easy.

I'm down to just Zorin now, I no longer use Mint. Not for any good reason, it's just the flavor of the month.
 
I think I still have my Hayes 1200 baud modem and ProComm Plus floppies.
I have all my modems still :D My 8088 has a 2,400 baud in it, and my 486 has a Reveal 28.8. I have several USR 56K's kicking around, both internal and external, but those are a dime a dozen.
 
IMO, there is no Linux that's as user friendly / universal as Windows. Most people will eventually bump in to some limitation or have some issue that is just outside of their reach / fix, you may break something trying to fix it. It will be frustrating. And tax season is here ... want do to your taxes on Linux with downloaded software, and not some cloud solution? That's not so easy.

I'm down to just Zorin now, I no longer use Mint. Not for any good reason, it's just the flavor of the month.
In no particular order, I've got the following running:
- Mac Pro - Ubuntu Server w/KDE GUI
- Macbook Pro - Ubuntu LTS w/Gnome
- HP ProDesk 400 G4 - OpenBSD (AdGuard DNS server)
- Lenovo tiny - FreeBSD (Plex, twitter bot, Grafana)
- HP Probook 450 G2 - FreeBSD w/KDE GUI
- Lenovo ThinkPad T410 - Nobara Linux (thanks to former member Rod_Knock for the heads up on this one)
- Old HP tower server - TrueNAS (Debian)
- HP Probook 450 G3 - KALI

Just spun-up RockyLinux (free version of RHEL) on an HPL DL380 Gen11 for a PACS server.
 
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