Will Your Car Survive an EMP?

Yes, I believe they will.

The metal body is essentially a faraday cage. The electronics are shielded to prevent interference with the radio. Of course everything is dependent on how close. Full on EMP 5 miles away - likely nothing does.

The reason the grid will not is all the power lines are antennas.

Having worked just a little bit with mu metal shielding to re-direct RF, one thing I learned is the effectiveness of protection varies widely. Optimally, you require metal to be a complete enclosure with no air gaps at all. But that alone usually will not provide enough shield in many situations. Multi-layers of complete shielding like a Russian Nesting Doll with each layer completely air tight sealed, and non-magnetic non-conducting spacing between each layer will work well in most applications. Think attenuation, then you want minimum coupling of what gets through, to be hitting the next layer, and so on, and so on. The first metal cage in some ways has a weakness in that it does create a less energetic coupling of a time delayed ( phase shifted ) magnetic pulse to it's next layer. So spacing helps to minimize that transfer of energy.

When I explained this to someone once, they said, " Then I should store my generator inside a small metal trash can, and put that inside a larger metal trash can."

I said, yes, but you should maintain good spacing of all areas between those cans. Like two-by-four's under the smaler can so it does not directly touch the outer can.

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Btw, one X-Military officer once told me if the missles are ever inbond, he's going outside to sit and watch, because if it hitts, he would want to be gone in an instant.

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After the US set off the largest ever blast, after one second the fireball was 5 miles wide, after one minute the fireball was 60 miles wide.

These levels of energy are beyond the understanding of most. The lucky would be dead beford they knew anything was happening.
 
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Having worked just a little bit with mu metal shielding to re-direct RF, one thing I learned if the effectiveness of protection varies widely. Optimally you require metal to be a complete enclosure with no air gaps at all. But that alone usually will not provide enough shield in many situations. Multi-layers of complete shielding like a Russian Nesting Doll with each layer completely air tight sealed, and non-magnetic non-conducting spacing between each layer will work well in most applications. Think attenuation, then you want minimum coupling of what gets through, to be hitting the next layer, and so on, and so on. The first metal cage in some ways has a weakness in that it does create a less energetic coupling of a time delayed ( phase shifted ) magnetic pulse to it's next layer. So spacing helps to minimize that transfer of energy.

When I explained this to someone once, they said, " Then I should store my generator inside a small metal trash can, and put that inside a larger metal trash can."

I said, yes, but you should maintain good spacing of all areas between those cans. Like two-by-four's under the smaler can so it does not directly touch the outer can.

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Btw, one X-Military officer once told me if the missles are ever inbond, he's going outside to sit and watch, because if it hitts, he would want to be gone in an instant.

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After the US set off the largest ever blast, after one second the fireball was 5 miles wide, after one minute the fireball was 60 miles wide.

These levels of energy are beyond the understanding of most. The lucky would be dead beford they knew anything was happening.
I believe you, but I am assuming you were trying to block 100% of the RF signal for communication reasons?

EM wave is starting out with max energy and then expanding in all directions in a sphere. So the amount of EM would be proportional the the sphere surface area relative to its original strength I believe. I don't see how it could gain more energy. I just don't think there would be enough EM to hurt cars shielded systems, especially given the metal body would absorb or reflect a lot of it, unless it was very close - which as you pointed out there would be zero left anyway.

Power wires are wide open and thousands of miles long, which is the reason for there susceptibility.
 
I read a book titled 'One Second After' a few years ago and this question has dogged me since.

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The answer seems to be maybe. Here is a short video with the opinion of an engineer. It is eleven years old but although cars may have evolved, the physics of an EMP have not.


Very awesome book. I have the sequel somewhere as well. Started reading it and misplaced it. Haha.

Nothing I have would survive. I’m not even sure my generator would survive. Dad has a Datsun 240z that would. Maybe a tractor with a PTO generator would be good too.
 
If y'all want to read about EMP, MIL-STD-464C has some good information. The actual EMP details are classified, but this has an unclassified version. The field is enormous and super fast. Making electronics to survive takes significant filtering and metal shielding that your vehicle electronics just don't have. Because of the speed, any shielding (Faraday cage) can have only tiny holes in it. A car body has enormous holes for all the windows.

The diodes in your alternator will die, as will any solid-state regulator. An old generator (brushed DC motor) should be ok. You might lose some incandescent bulbs.

I will guess that a magneto ignition probably will survive. Obviously, a purely mechanical Diesel engine will survive. The starter motor should be ok.
 
If y'all want to read about EMP, MIL-STD-464C has some good information. The actual EMP details are classified, but this has an unclassified version. The field is enormous and super fast. Making electronics to survive takes significant filtering and metal shielding that your vehicle electronics just don't have. Because of the speed, any shielding (Faraday cage) can have only tiny holes in it. A car body has enormous holes for all the windows.

The diodes in your alternator will die, as will any solid-state regulator. An old generator (brushed DC motor) should be ok. You might lose some incandescent bulbs.

I will guess that a magneto ignition probably will survive. Obviously, a purely mechanical Diesel engine will survive. The starter motor should be ok.
I hope people read the reference you gave and while this is a bit off topic,
consider from that reference why military, aircraft, and medical equipment costs are what they are.

The amount of testing, the expensive testing equipment, and the special components to achieve qualification for the above systems are tremendous.

This is from a guy who had to qualify special-purpose military avionics for EMP. And the above reference is only one of the multitude of specs to meet those qualifications.
 
During the final years of my USAF career I was involved in several projects that included EMP hardening, and I was quite familiar with the study this gentleman references. And while there are many, many variables to consider with regard to an EMP burst (altitude, proximity, etc.), the notion of everything electrical being "fried" is preposterous scaremongering.
I've read everything I can find on the subject and I agree.
 
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