Why I like Windows

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The reason I like Windows so much is because of the software and hardware compatibility. I bought a new printer for my computer and it was immediately compatible with Windows 8. It is not compatible so far with the last two operating systems from Apple-OS 10.8 or OS 10.7. And having used Apple Computers I can say that is typical-you usually have to wait a long time before printers and scanners are compatible with a new operating system release. Which is a big hassle.

As for Linux compatibility-forget it. Of course somebody who loves Linux operating systems will tell you to write your own drivers for your printer or your scanner. I think I will leave that job to Epson programmers. But Linux operating systems make great servers.
 
I honestly can't say that I've ever had a problem setting up a printer for Windows or Linux. OS/2, on the other hand, yeah printer drivers were a problem.
 
I haven't purchased a new Apple computer recently, but for years picked up one every other year or so, I'd guess...I got a printer for free each time by doing so and it worked perfectly. Each OS has its good and bad... Windows 7 was the first time I'd used a Windows OS that didn't feel like I was beta testing something for Microsoft. Apple, in a lot of ways, is easier for noobie computer people and often has fewer driver issues with hardware in my experience. I guess it just depends...plus I hate the bloatware companies always put on the Windows machines they sell.

Really...the amount of free and cheap software is the only reason I'd use Windows over Mac OS.
 
Windows 7 is OK, but have you tried removing any malware once it's on there?? My friends have a netbook with Win 7, and they were having problems with things slowing down. I take a look... and, of course, they're using the Administrator account for their everyday browsing. So I create them a new basic user account, and the thing runs like brand new again. Eventually, this updated "Malware Removal Tool" was asking to install itself. I don't know much about Windows, so I thought it was the malware itself attempting to screw up the new account. Finally, I read a couple weeks later that there was an update earlier this month for this program. So I decided to run it manually (with the "MRT" command), and it found 11 malware junks on their computer. I wasn't paying attention, but I think I hit Remove, then Next and it closed. So I didn't get much info after waiting hours for the scan. The next day, I ran the thing again and it only shows one malware that is "partially removed". I was looking up directions to uninstall this stuff earlier, and it just looks like a royal pain in the [censored]. Even after running this stuff, the fact is that the system has been compromised. In these type situations, if it were my computer... the only solution is to reinstall. And I'd be reinstalling Linux.

Anybody who has problems with printer drivers in Linux hasn't used Linux in several years. Heck, even cameras that are built-in to laptops and LCD monitors work more often than not. Microphones work. Wifi components have been fairly standard for quite some time. Printers, actually, are more plug and play than they are on Windows. I plug it in on a new Linux install, and the driver is built into the system. That's just the way the Linux desktop kernel is designed [as opposed to the embedded kernel], as a comprehensive mammoth of drivers. You plug it in and it works. Nothing to research, download, upload from CD, or whatever.

More often than not, hardware that doesn't work on Linux is junk hardware that actually offloads all processing to the desktop CPU; this type of hardware is nothing more than an adapter for the most part. Any good hardware will actually do processing onboard and won't increase CPU load more than a tiny fraction. Instead of buying junk hardware and begging someone to write you some drivers... why not research the hardware and see whether it's actually worth a hoot to begin with?? A rule of thumb is that if it works on Linux (which it probly does, it's not 1998 anymore) then it must be decent hardware.
 
There are several ways to try Ubuntu...

Put it on a thumb drive,
Install it INSIDE Windows,
Dual-boot OUTSIDE of Windows,
Live boot WITHOUT touching Windows [or your hard drive],
Or take the online test drive.

Just don't act like Windows actually offers anything more than games...

http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
 
Originally Posted By: grndslm

Just don't act like Windows actually offers anything more than games...


That's hardly fair. There are a few business software products that pretty much require Windows.

Also, Windows has the advantage of not coming with Unity by default. Ubuntu lost any right to claim they're beginner-friendly when they decided that it should default to a Unity desktop.
 
I love Windows.

It gave the masses access to using computers for personal development, not just a select few.

A computer is a great tool, and a common platform and simplicity, as well as lower prices for the hardware, has done everyone a lot of good.
 
I have a Macbook pro running OSX Mountain Lion plus a Lenovo T series ThinkPad dual booted running Windows 7 Pro and Linux openSUSE 64 Gnome.
I have an OKI network laser printer that openSUSE recognized when installing the OS.

Hardware wise, the glass trackpad on my MacBook is better than anything you'll find on a Windows notebook.

Most Windows notebooks are built cutthroat and come with junk low resolution displays. I cant stand the crummy 1366X768 display on the crop of most 15" notebooks.

Windows 7 and 8 are OK, but the cheap Windows notebooks most buy ruins the experience.
 
Apple's prices kill them for me. I do like some of their products, but, for what you are paying, I don't feel it's a good deal.

I was able to get a 4 year old Windows laptop with 1440x900 screen for $120. You can't get a 4 year old macbook for that.

For me, it's about price (as are most people). I like some of Apple's hardware design but the prices kill it. Until they make their prices more reasonable, I won't buy one. Plain and simple.
 
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
I have a Macbook pro running OSX Mountain Lion plus a Lenovo T series ThinkPad dual booted running Windows 7 Pro and Linux openSUSE 64 Gnome.
I have an OKI network laser printer that openSUSE recognized when installing the OS.

Hardware wise, the glass trackpad on my MacBook is better than anything you'll find on a Windows notebook.

Most Windows notebooks are built cutthroat and come with junk low resolution displays. I cant stand the crummy 1366X768 display on the crop of most 15" notebooks.

Windows 7 and 8 are OK, but the cheap Windows notebooks most buy ruins the experience.


+1.

Cant say Ive ever had an issue with any device compatibility with mac or anything else. But we also dont swap printers or scanners often. The ones we have had, we have owned for years. Work perfect even on the latest SW.

Windows junk is horrid, but even their better stuff can be really bad. I got a Vista laptop a few years back - a high end Sony Vaio one, it was so slow and cripplied it was horrible. My MBP of the same age, which now has the latest OS, has been perfect and I run everything I need to, including scientific analysis programs that are fairly intensive.

At work we got W7 laptops, and they are good, I like W7 a lot... But they still feel slow and are indeed unreliable compared to my mac. I dont know whose fault that it, these arent decked out with much, but have lots of security on them. But nothing is an excuse for programs randomly being forced closed, and for a w7, i7, 16GB laptop to take more than a split second to open any program, especially the optimized MS ones. Yet it does...
 
Originally Posted By: Mystic
The reason I like Windows so much is because of the software and hardware compatibility. I bought a new printer for my computer and it was immediately compatible with Windows 8.


I spent four hours yesterday trying to de-install a Canon printer because it would not work. I should note that when I purchased the printer I chose a Canon because I thought it might be better "integrated" than a Brother, or other. On the surface it is easy, just use the de-installation utility. Unfortunately, that doesn't completely remove the drivers. Googling shows it is a common problem, with no easily decipherable, clear cut solutions. Revo-uninstaller (the king of uninstallers) did nothing with drivers. I finally found a Kyocera utility that at least told me what drivers were where in the registry, and I took them out manually.

Four hours on a freakin' printer problem. I have to say I still don't consider Windows user-friendly. It felt like I was back in the mid-1980's, juggling interrupts to get all the basic devices to play together.
 
Originally Posted By: Mystic
The reason I like Windows so much is because of the software and hardware compatibility. I bought a new printer for my computer and it was immediately compatible with Windows 8.

I haven't done anything in Windows 8 yet, so I can't comment much on that. However, with Vista and XP, I found Linux to be better for installing printers, by far. My HP for my Linux box was plug and play. The HP for the work system was pretty easy, but it was not as easy as Linux. It's nice that the installation software is on the printer these days, rather than a CD, and it is pretty easy and foolproof. It is not, however, exactly plug and play like it was in Linux.

Windows may not require 18 reboots any more when installing a bit of extra hardware, but Linux doesn't require you to write your own drivers or compile them from source code any longer, either.

My NIC and printer were completely plug and play. My NVidia card had a couple issues earlier on in kernel numbers, but that was because drivers wouldn't be updated with kernels and would have to be updated separately. That's long been changed and no driver updates are necessary. Now, a new NVidia card would be completely plug and play for me. Would that hold true in Windows?
 
I am eternally grateful to the Microsoft ecosystem. The dysfunction that accompanies it pays my bills. If individuals and business were Apple based, I'd have to find another career.

Windows 7 is a decent OS, Windows 8 is like paying for a prostitute and only getting a hug in return.

Mac is the only and obvious choice if you are a power user of any ilk and serious about getting things done. If gaming is your thing, save your money and get a wintel box.

The price argument baffles me. Macs are cheaper than they've ever been. You'll still pay more up front but you also pay more upfront for a Lexus LS400 than you will a Ford Focus. You're paying for the most highly engineered computer hardware on the planet, and the only fully integrated OS to go with it, and a machine that will give you almost zero drama in its lifetime. Small price to pay, methinks.

Deals can be found. Just yesterday I bought a Macbook(2.2ghz C2D/2GB/100GB/13"/Panda mod) for $125 off Jacksonville craigslist.
 
Slow computers out of the box are NOT a problem of Microsoft, it's a problem of the OEMs. Dell and HP are probably the worst offenders, but a lot of the OEMs will subsidize the cost of the computer by loading it up with [censored].

Once Apple starts building a reasonably priced laptop and stops pushing the elitist image, I'll buy one.
 
They don't want you as a customer, stop flattering yourself.
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I like Windows because it works, and it works great.
Windows 7 has been nothing but good for me, and it runs well on even older hardware. Windows 7 is what Vista should have been, because it was a bloaty, slow, POS.

And it's hard to not agree with its compatibility. That is why it is on everything you buy from anyone but Apple.
 
I get my jollies from showing off the benchmarks of windows 7 running on my 6 year old dual quad xeon mac tower to windows fanboys. blows new wintel hardware out of the water. perspective shift ensues.
 
Originally Posted By: gr8gatzby
I get my jollies from showing off the benchmarks of windows 7 running on my 6 year old dual quad xeon mac tower to windows fanboys. blows new wintel hardware out of the water. perspective shift ensues.


If you are running windows benchmarks on intel hardware

what makes it a mac anything?

This whole thread has for the most part decended into fanboyism.
 
Originally Posted By: gr8gatzby
I am eternally grateful to the Microsoft ecosystem. The dysfunction that accompanies it pays my bills. If individuals and business were Apple based, I'd have to find another career.

Well, we've heard from you, an honest tech who actually is a tech and works as a tech. The other day, I got another one of those darned scam calls claiming my Windows computer had all kinds of spyware. They actually stated they were calling from Microsoft (right....). I explained to him I have a Linux computer. "No, listen," he says, and goes on to state I've got spyware on my Windows box again. I told him, "No, you listen. I don't own a Windows computer and haven't in over a decade." Then he hangs up. Next time, I assuming I have the time, I'm going to string him along for as along as possible, and make him waste his time.
 
Originally Posted By: Rand


If you are running windows benchmarks on intel hardware what makes it a mac anything?


Win7 is installed within a virtual machine in the OSX environment. It runs concurrently on top of it. I also have Ubuntu and WinXP VMs.

Originally Posted By: Rand
This whole thread has for the most part decended into fanboyism.


Fanboys disregard facts for bias. I believe I've stated everything factually. Let me know if I've not done so.
 
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