Why does Ford Premium Gold get so much respect?

[slammds15]

Originally Posted By: roadrunner1
International actually recalled and installed coolant filters on the trucks equipped with the 6.0 after they were plugging oil coolers and rupturing egr coolers. The one flaw with ELC is it takes roughly 5,000 mi. before adequete protection is achieved, vs. immediate protection with a low silicate coolant.


Really? This is the first I hear of this. I do a lot of work on VT365's and have yet to see a coolant filter or perform any kind of warranty campaign.

 

[slammds15]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: CDX825
The G-05 was never meant to be used in a heavy duty diesel application. That's the problem not the oil cooler or EGR cooler. They both get hot, that's the nature of the best.

The 6.0 oil cooler is flat plate type heat exchanger. Very efficient but has very small easy to plug passages.


Yes, they both get hot and the EGR coolers fail, and they fail in any application with whatever coolant is being used. They boil the coolant. Slammds15 went through two of them, International parts, with International coolant, and it being a 15 hour job to change, he deleted it after the last one.
Only took 15 hrs because I wanted to clean out the horribly goey intake and head ports. Why they would vent the crankcase into the turbo intake is beyond me. It is a horrible design that caused many turbo replacements for no reason. I know they did it due to emmisions but a solution like Cummins has done would has most likely been better IMHO. The delete was a breeze, machine 2 plugs and weld, the M.O.E. is none the wiser

I also flushed the cooling system and got rid of the junk that was in it. A yellow crust had built up in the cooling system all over everything.

 

[bullwinkle]

Originally Posted By: CDX825
The G-05 was never meant to be used in a heavy duty diesel application. That's the problem not the oil cooler or EGR cooler. They both get hot, that's the nature of the best.

The 6.0 oil cooler is flat plate type heat exchanger. Very efficient but has very small easy to plug passages.
Well, the Cummins engines in the newer Dodges use it, and it doesn't cause any problems. If you consider the 6."blow" a HD diesel-you need to drive a few REAL ones (Cat, bigger Cummins or Detroit Series 60)! IMHO, ANY coolant that contains silicate SHOULD have a coolant filter of some kind when used in a diesel application-the vibrations speed the drop-out effect. Unfortunately the 6.0 has VERY EXPENSIVE coolers that function as coolant filters instead!

 

[3311]

Originally Posted By: slammds15
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: CDX825
The G-05 was never meant to be used in a heavy duty diesel application. That's the problem not the oil cooler or EGR cooler. They both get hot, that's the nature of the best.

The 6.0 oil cooler is flat plate type heat exchanger. Very efficient but has very small easy to plug passages.


Yes, they both get hot and the EGR coolers fail, and they fail in any application with whatever coolant is being used. They boil the coolant. Slammds15 went through two of them, International parts, with International coolant, and it being a 15 hour job to change, he deleted it after the last one.
Only took 15 hrs because I wanted to clean out the horribly goey intake and head ports. Why they would vent the crankcase into the turbo intake is beyond me. It is a horrible design that caused many turbo replacements for no reason. I know they did it due to emmisions but a solution like Cummins has done would has most likely been better IMHO. The delete was a breeze, machine 2 plugs and weld, the M.O.E. is none the wiser

I also flushed the cooling system and got rid of the junk that was in it. A yellow crust had built up in the cooling system all over everything.
What coolant did you use after the flush?

 

[rufushusky]

Originally Posted By: 3311
While reading in the UOA section about 6.0 diesel problems. I thought "if this were Dexcool". With all of the problems coolant related failures of the 6.0, why are there so many fans of it? With all of the plugged oil coolers, why doesn't Premium Gold get the ridicule it deserves?


Troll through a few 6.0 forums and people will make it sounds like the plague. I run Zerex G-05 in my 7.3 and it is fine for me. Check the SCA's every third oil change and call it a day. I ran the same coolant in my Cummins with no problems at all, 205k on the original water pump so I am happy.

Regardless of coolant, I would want a coolant filter on a 6.0 regardless of what coolant I ran. Those passages are VERY small and even just a little [censored] can do a lot of damage.

 

[3311]

Originally Posted By: rufushusky
Originally Posted By: 3311
While reading in the UOA section about 6.0 diesel problems. I thought "if this were Dexcool". With all of the problems coolant related failures of the 6.0, why are there so many fans of it? With all of the plugged oil coolers, why doesn't Premium Gold get the ridicule it deserves?


Troll through a few 6.0 forums and people will make it sounds like the plague. I run Zerex G-05 in my 7.3 and it is fine for me. Check the SCA's every third oil change and call it a day. I ran the same coolant in my Cummins with no problems at all, 205k on the original water pump so I am happy.

Regardless of coolant, I would want a coolant filter on a 6.0 regardless of what coolant I ran. Those passages are VERY small and even just a little [censored] can do a lot of damage.
Troll?

 

[rufushusky]

Originally Posted By: 3311
Originally Posted By: rufushusky
Originally Posted By: 3311
While reading in the UOA section about 6.0 diesel problems. I thought "if this were Dexcool". With all of the problems coolant related failures of the 6.0, why are there so many fans of it? With all of the plugged oil coolers, why doesn't Premium Gold get the ridicule it deserves?


Troll through a few 6.0 forums and people will make it sounds like the plague. I run Zerex G-05 in my 7.3 and it is fine for me. Check the SCA's every third oil change and call it a day. I ran the same coolant in my Cummins with no problems at all, 205k on the original water pump so I am happy.

Regardless of coolant, I would want a coolant filter on a 6.0 regardless of what coolant I ran. Those passages are VERY small and even just a little [censored] can do a lot of damage.
Troll?


Troll, search, look through..passively read...etc etc.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: 3311
Originally Posted By: rufushusky
Originally Posted By: 3311
While reading in the UOA section about 6.0 diesel problems. I thought "if this were Dexcool". With all of the problems coolant related failures of the 6.0, why are there so many fans of it? With all of the plugged oil coolers, why doesn't Premium Gold get the ridicule it deserves?


Troll through a few 6.0 forums and people will make it sounds like the plague. I run Zerex G-05 in my 7.3 and it is fine for me. Check the SCA's every third oil change and call it a day. I ran the same coolant in my Cummins with no problems at all, 205k on the original water pump so I am happy.

Regardless of coolant, I would want a coolant filter on a 6.0 regardless of what coolant I ran. Those passages are VERY small and even just a little [censored] can do a lot of damage.
Troll?

 

[3311]

Originally Posted By: rufushusky
Originally Posted By: 3311
Originally Posted By: rufushusky
Originally Posted By: 3311
While reading in the UOA section about 6.0 diesel problems. I thought "if this were Dexcool". With all of the problems coolant related failures of the 6.0, why are there so many fans of it? With all of the plugged oil coolers, why doesn't Premium Gold get the ridicule it deserves?


Troll through a few 6.0 forums and people will make it sounds like the plague. I run Zerex G-05 in my 7.3 and it is fine for me. Check the SCA's every third oil change and call it a day. I ran the same coolant in my Cummins with no problems at all, 205k on the original water pump so I am happy.

Regardless of coolant, I would want a coolant filter on a 6.0 regardless of what coolant I ran. Those passages are VERY small and even just a little [censored] can do a lot of damage.
Troll?


Troll, search, look through..passively read...etc etc.
I get it, I just thought you were calling me a troll.

 

[3311]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: 3311
Originally Posted By: rufushusky
Originally Posted By: 3311
While reading in the UOA section about 6.0 diesel problems. I thought "if this were Dexcool". With all of the problems coolant related failures of the 6.0, why are there so many fans of it? With all of the plugged oil coolers, why doesn't Premium Gold get the ridicule it deserves?


Troll through a few 6.0 forums and people will make it sounds like the plague. I run Zerex G-05 in my 7.3 and it is fine for me. Check the SCA's every third oil change and call it a day. I ran the same coolant in my Cummins with no problems at all, 205k on the original water pump so I am happy.

Regardless of coolant, I would want a coolant filter on a 6.0 regardless of what coolant I ran. Those passages are VERY small and even just a little [censored] can do a lot of damage.
Troll?

That's like a painting of the last time I had my boat in water. No fish on the line.

 

[slammds15]

Originally Posted By: 3311
Originally Posted By: slammds15
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: CDX825
The G-05 was never meant to be used in a heavy duty diesel application. That's the problem not the oil cooler or EGR cooler. They both get hot, that's the nature of the best.

The 6.0 oil cooler is flat plate type heat exchanger. Very efficient but has very small easy to plug passages.


Yes, they both get hot and the EGR coolers fail, and they fail in any application with whatever coolant is being used. They boil the coolant. Slammds15 went through two of them, International parts, with International coolant, and it being a 15 hour job to change, he deleted it after the last one.
Only took 15 hrs because I wanted to clean out the horribly goey intake and head ports. Why they would vent the crankcase into the turbo intake is beyond me. It is a horrible design that caused many turbo replacements for no reason. I know they did it due to emmisions but a solution like Cummins has done would has most likely been better IMHO. The delete was a breeze, machine 2 plugs and weld, the M.O.E. is none the wiser

I also flushed the cooling system and got rid of the junk that was in it. A yellow crust had built up in the cooling system all over everything.
What coolant did you use after the flush?


I used Delo Extended life Prediluted 50/50 coolant.