I use seafoaming as a gerund because I don't know what the correct word would be. I have used seafoam, b-12, water, and a ATF. What do you prefer to use?
What's your favorite seafoaming fluid?
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Seafoam.
TC+. But I've found fluid ingestion via BB is not the best way to clean.
What are you trying to accomplish? What vehicle is this?
None, because I never need to do arbitrary "cleaning" because I have a car that functions correctly.
Seriously why do people invent problems? Seafoam just became a popular fix for a problem, nearest I can figure, almost nobody has.
Sure looks impressive when the burning seafoam makes a ton of smoke I guess.
Seriously why do people invent problems? Seafoam just became a popular fix for a problem, nearest I can figure, almost nobody has.
Sure looks impressive when the burning seafoam makes a ton of smoke I guess.
SeaFoam and other injection cleaners are part of preventative maintenance that ensures long-term reliability of a vehicle.
Prevention is always much better than redemption.
Have received good results with Amsoil's P.I., Chevron's Concentrated Techron, SeaFoam, and mixing a little Acetone with TCW-3.
Prevention is always much better than redemption.
Have received good results with Amsoil's P.I., Chevron's Concentrated Techron, SeaFoam, and mixing a little Acetone with TCW-3.
Seafoam in itself there is no substitutions! lol...well, really...couldn't see any good coming from anything else going thru the intake...though I have heard and read that water de-carbonization is about the best......though there is said to be some risk of "hydrolock"....
Then again, I have had the Gum Out 2 Step procedure done on my car at Walmart...basically the same thing, solution thru the intake, solution in the half tank of gas, and then idle the engine til the IV drip solution is gone, then take it for a good WOT-highway-run
Then again, I have had the Gum Out 2 Step procedure done on my car at Walmart...basically the same thing, solution thru the intake, solution in the half tank of gas, and then idle the engine til the IV drip solution is gone, then take it for a good WOT-highway-run
I have used Chemtool B12, and it does the job at close to half the price of Seafoam. The container looks similar and the chemical looks, feels, and smells similar.
Originally Posted By: artificialist
I have used Chemtool B12, and it does the job at close to half the price of Seafoam. The container looks similar and the chemical looks, feels, and smells similar.
+2 B-12 is a stronger cleaner for a lot less money.
Try their parts cleaner too. I have rescued many small engine carburetors with it.
I have used Chemtool B12, and it does the job at close to half the price of Seafoam. The container looks similar and the chemical looks, feels, and smells similar.
+2 B-12 is a stronger cleaner for a lot less money.
Try their parts cleaner too. I have rescued many small engine carburetors with it.
Originally Posted By: RiceCake
None, because I never need to do arbitrary "cleaning" because I have a car that functions correctly.
Seriously why do people invent problems? Seafoam just became a popular fix for a problem, nearest I can figure, almost nobody has.
Sure looks impressive when the burning seafoam makes a ton of smoke I guess.
Agreed 1000%...
Even on the beater, 175K mi, '96 F-150 I bought last fall all I did was drop the quart of oil that was in it(yes only a quart, if that), install a new filter and dump three misc quarts oi oil in it... After it ran approx 50 mi I changed oil and filter again and that was it... It had a surging that I traced to erratic EGR operation, no miracle in a can would have fixed that but no doubt many are sold just for such...
None, because I never need to do arbitrary "cleaning" because I have a car that functions correctly.
Seriously why do people invent problems? Seafoam just became a popular fix for a problem, nearest I can figure, almost nobody has.
Sure looks impressive when the burning seafoam makes a ton of smoke I guess.
Agreed 1000%...
Even on the beater, 175K mi, '96 F-150 I bought last fall all I did was drop the quart of oil that was in it(yes only a quart, if that), install a new filter and dump three misc quarts oi oil in it... After it ran approx 50 mi I changed oil and filter again and that was it... It had a surging that I traced to erratic EGR operation, no miracle in a can would have fixed that but no doubt many are sold just for such...
Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: RiceCake
None, because I never need to do arbitrary "cleaning" because I have a car that functions correctly.
Seriously why do people invent problems? Seafoam just became a popular fix for a problem, nearest I can figure, almost nobody has.
Sure looks impressive when the burning seafoam makes a ton of smoke I guess.
Agreed 1000%...
Even on the beater, 175K mi, '96 F-150 I bought last fall all I did was drop the quart of oil that was in it(yes only a quart, if that), install a new filter and dump three misc quarts oi oil in it... After it ran approx 50 mi I changed oil and filter again and that was it... It had a surging that I traced to erratic EGR operation, no miracle in a can would have fixed that but no doubt many are sold just for such...
No offense intended but..Your both wrong and your an example of why.
You perform 2 short the oil changes why? Preventative maintenance, cleanup deposits. But you claim nothing can help a clogged EGR.. Uh..the EGR is clogged for the same reason as the oil changes. Deposit buildup. Prevent the deposit buildup, prevent the clogged EGR. Want a clean EGR? Use occasional fuel system cleaners (the right ones) at the end of every other OCI.
Regardless of the 2 short OCI's its still gonna burn oil with clogged piston oil return holes, clogged like the EGR. Its too late there too. Gotta be torn out, holes drilled out. As you say no miracle can (motor oil) can fix it.
Did you buy the vehicle from RiceCake? Because he thinks as long as his vehicles functions and "feels" ok, no arbitrary cleaning required.
Originally Posted By: RiceCake
None, because I never need to do arbitrary "cleaning" because I have a car that functions correctly.
Seriously why do people invent problems? Seafoam just became a popular fix for a problem, nearest I can figure, almost nobody has.
Sure looks impressive when the burning seafoam makes a ton of smoke I guess.
Agreed 1000%...
Even on the beater, 175K mi, '96 F-150 I bought last fall all I did was drop the quart of oil that was in it(yes only a quart, if that), install a new filter and dump three misc quarts oi oil in it... After it ran approx 50 mi I changed oil and filter again and that was it... It had a surging that I traced to erratic EGR operation, no miracle in a can would have fixed that but no doubt many are sold just for such...
No offense intended but..Your both wrong and your an example of why.
You perform 2 short the oil changes why? Preventative maintenance, cleanup deposits. But you claim nothing can help a clogged EGR.. Uh..the EGR is clogged for the same reason as the oil changes. Deposit buildup. Prevent the deposit buildup, prevent the clogged EGR. Want a clean EGR? Use occasional fuel system cleaners (the right ones) at the end of every other OCI.
Regardless of the 2 short OCI's its still gonna burn oil with clogged piston oil return holes, clogged like the EGR. Its too late there too. Gotta be torn out, holes drilled out. As you say no miracle can (motor oil) can fix it.
Did you buy the vehicle from RiceCake? Because he thinks as long as his vehicles functions and "feels" ok, no arbitrary cleaning required.
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
No offense intended but..Your both wrong and your an example of why.
This is gonna be fun...
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You perform 2 short the oil changes why?
I don't perform arbitrarily short OCI's.
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Preventative maintenance, cleanup deposits.
I don't do this and I have no "deposits". "Deposits" don't build up if your running your car properly and actually maintaining it, which most people unfortunately don't.
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But you claim nothing can help a clogged EGR.. Uh..the EGR is clogged for the same reason as the oil changes.
And sometimes, things just wear out. What would you rather do, spend an extra $10 every single OCI trying to fool yourself into thinking its making everything perfect, or spend a whole $50 replacing and cleaning a part when it becomes actually clogged, if it ever does? The economics at play here are awful when your preventative maintenance is more to fool the driver then to help the car.
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Prevent the deposit buildup, prevent the clogged EGR. Want a clean EGR? Use occasional fuel system cleaners (the right ones) at the end of every other OCI.
This sounds expensive. At the end of every other OCI? My car has just about 200,000 kilometers on it. If I spent $5 every other OCI on a fuel system cleaner, I'd have spent close to $100 by now on fuel additives alone. I can buy a whole new EGR for around $100. The best part is, my EGR isn't clogged or anything and works perfectly. So whats your logic here beyond saying "waste $100 to feel good?"
Did it ever dawn on you that maybe things wear out and you're better off saving your money to replace or clean what wears out, when it wears out, then potentially wasting it dumping things in there you have no real evidence actually prevents the problem?
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Did you buy the vehicle from RiceCake? Because he thinks as long as his vehicles functions and "feels" ok, no arbitrary cleaning required.
Glad you agree, no arbitrary cleaning is ever required on a vehicle.
No offense intended but..Your both wrong and your an example of why.
This is gonna be fun...
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You perform 2 short the oil changes why?
I don't perform arbitrarily short OCI's.
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Preventative maintenance, cleanup deposits.
I don't do this and I have no "deposits". "Deposits" don't build up if your running your car properly and actually maintaining it, which most people unfortunately don't.
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But you claim nothing can help a clogged EGR.. Uh..the EGR is clogged for the same reason as the oil changes.
And sometimes, things just wear out. What would you rather do, spend an extra $10 every single OCI trying to fool yourself into thinking its making everything perfect, or spend a whole $50 replacing and cleaning a part when it becomes actually clogged, if it ever does? The economics at play here are awful when your preventative maintenance is more to fool the driver then to help the car.
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Prevent the deposit buildup, prevent the clogged EGR. Want a clean EGR? Use occasional fuel system cleaners (the right ones) at the end of every other OCI.
This sounds expensive. At the end of every other OCI? My car has just about 200,000 kilometers on it. If I spent $5 every other OCI on a fuel system cleaner, I'd have spent close to $100 by now on fuel additives alone. I can buy a whole new EGR for around $100. The best part is, my EGR isn't clogged or anything and works perfectly. So whats your logic here beyond saying "waste $100 to feel good?"
Did it ever dawn on you that maybe things wear out and you're better off saving your money to replace or clean what wears out, when it wears out, then potentially wasting it dumping things in there you have no real evidence actually prevents the problem?
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Did you buy the vehicle from RiceCake? Because he thinks as long as his vehicles functions and "feels" ok, no arbitrary cleaning required.
Glad you agree, no arbitrary cleaning is ever required on a vehicle.
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Good for you Cakes, glad it was fun.
Originally Posted By: Shaman
I use seafoaming as a gerund because I don't know what the correct word would be. I have used seafoam, b-12, water, and a ATF. What do you prefer to use?
Seafoam is good stuff and I use it to clean the combustion chamber( through vacuum source ). Have also used it in the crankcase as a flush and to free up sticking lifters and rings. Never really cared for it as a pour in the tank product though.
I use seafoaming as a gerund because I don't know what the correct word would be. I have used seafoam, b-12, water, and a ATF. What do you prefer to use?
Seafoam is good stuff and I use it to clean the combustion chamber( through vacuum source ). Have also used it in the crankcase as a flush and to free up sticking lifters and rings. Never really cared for it as a pour in the tank product though.
Originally Posted By: chad8
Originally Posted By: artificialist
I have used Chemtool B12, and it does the job at close to half the price of Seafoam. The container looks similar and the chemical looks, feels, and smells similar.
+2 B-12 is a stronger cleaner for a lot less money.
Try their parts cleaner too. I have rescued many small engine carburetors with it.
+3 been using it for years. Very happy with B12.
Originally Posted By: artificialist
I have used Chemtool B12, and it does the job at close to half the price of Seafoam. The container looks similar and the chemical looks, feels, and smells similar.
+2 B-12 is a stronger cleaner for a lot less money.
Try their parts cleaner too. I have rescued many small engine carburetors with it.
+3 been using it for years. Very happy with B12.
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: RiceCake
None, because I never need to do arbitrary "cleaning" because I have a car that functions correctly.
Seriously why do people invent problems? Seafoam just became a popular fix for a problem, nearest I can figure, almost nobody has.
Sure looks impressive when the burning seafoam makes a ton of smoke I guess.
Agreed 1000%...
Even on the beater, 175K mi, '96 F-150 I bought last fall all I did was drop the quart of oil that was in it(yes only a quart, if that), install a new filter and dump three misc quarts oi oil in it... After it ran approx 50 mi I changed oil and filter again and that was it... It had a surging that I traced to erratic EGR operation, no miracle in a can would have fixed that but no doubt many are sold just for such...
No offense intended but..Your both wrong and your an example of why.
You perform 2 short the oil changes why? Preventative maintenance, cleanup deposits. But you claim nothing can help a clogged EGR.. Uh..the EGR is clogged for the same reason as the oil changes. Deposit buildup. Prevent the deposit buildup, prevent the clogged EGR. Want a clean EGR? Use occasional fuel system cleaners (the right ones) at the end of every other OCI.
Where'd I say I performed TWO SHORT oil changes????? I did one flush with the three quarts and after 50 or so miles then changed again, 6 months later that oil is still in it with none added... Did the flush because what little oil in the pan could have passed for black paint... I doubt it's seen a change in the last 25K mi...
Also where'd I say it had a clogged EGR??? It doesn't...
The DPFE valve is the issue... Yes it's still a issue, MAYBE I'll fix it one of these days, maybe not, but It won't be with a miracle in a can...
Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: RiceCake
None, because I never need to do arbitrary "cleaning" because I have a car that functions correctly.
Seriously why do people invent problems? Seafoam just became a popular fix for a problem, nearest I can figure, almost nobody has.
Sure looks impressive when the burning seafoam makes a ton of smoke I guess.
Agreed 1000%...
Even on the beater, 175K mi, '96 F-150 I bought last fall all I did was drop the quart of oil that was in it(yes only a quart, if that), install a new filter and dump three misc quarts oi oil in it... After it ran approx 50 mi I changed oil and filter again and that was it... It had a surging that I traced to erratic EGR operation, no miracle in a can would have fixed that but no doubt many are sold just for such...
No offense intended but..Your both wrong and your an example of why.
You perform 2 short the oil changes why? Preventative maintenance, cleanup deposits. But you claim nothing can help a clogged EGR.. Uh..the EGR is clogged for the same reason as the oil changes. Deposit buildup. Prevent the deposit buildup, prevent the clogged EGR. Want a clean EGR? Use occasional fuel system cleaners (the right ones) at the end of every other OCI.
Where'd I say I performed TWO SHORT oil changes????? I did one flush with the three quarts and after 50 or so miles then changed again, 6 months later that oil is still in it with none added... Did the flush because what little oil in the pan could have passed for black paint... I doubt it's seen a change in the last 25K mi...
Also where'd I say it had a clogged EGR??? It doesn't...
The DPFE valve is the issue... Yes it's still a issue, MAYBE I'll fix it one of these days, maybe not, but It won't be with a miracle in a can...
IT CLEANS INTAKE VALVES FOR THOSE OF US THAT SAVE ON GAS.
SEAFOAM ISNT TOO STRONG, TO LOOSE SOMETHING IT SHOULDNT.
ARROGANCE!!! Uggh. Maybe THAT'S "cool."
Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: RiceCake
None, because I never need to do arbitrary "cleaning" because I have a car that functions correctly.
Seriously why do people invent problems? Seafoam just became a popular fix for a problem, nearest I can figure, almost nobody has.
Sure looks impressive when the burning seafoam makes a ton of smoke I guess.
Agreed 1000%...
Even on the beater, 175K mi, '96 F-150 I bought last fall all I did was drop the quart of oil that was in it(yes only a quart, if that), install a new filter and dump three misc quarts oi oil in it... After it ran approx 50 mi I changed oil and filter again and that was it... It had a surging that I traced to erratic EGR operation, no miracle in a can would have fixed that but no doubt many are sold just for such...
SEAFOAM ISNT TOO STRONG, TO LOOSE SOMETHING IT SHOULDNT.
ARROGANCE!!! Uggh. Maybe THAT'S "cool."
Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: RiceCake
None, because I never need to do arbitrary "cleaning" because I have a car that functions correctly.
Seriously why do people invent problems? Seafoam just became a popular fix for a problem, nearest I can figure, almost nobody has.
Sure looks impressive when the burning seafoam makes a ton of smoke I guess.
Agreed 1000%...
Even on the beater, 175K mi, '96 F-150 I bought last fall all I did was drop the quart of oil that was in it(yes only a quart, if that), install a new filter and dump three misc quarts oi oil in it... After it ran approx 50 mi I changed oil and filter again and that was it... It had a surging that I traced to erratic EGR operation, no miracle in a can would have fixed that but no doubt many are sold just for such...
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Originally Posted By: TechnoLoGs
IT CLEANS INTAKE VALVES FOR THOSE OF US THAT SAVE ON GAS.
SEAFOAM ISNT TOO STRONG, TO LOOSE SOMETHING IT SHOULDNT.
ARROGANCE!!! Uggh. Maybe THAT'S "cool."
Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: RiceCake
None, because I never need to do arbitrary "cleaning" because I have a car that functions correctly.
Seriously why do people invent problems? Seafoam just became a popular fix for a problem, nearest I can figure, almost nobody has.
Sure looks impressive when the burning seafoam makes a ton of smoke I guess.
Agreed 1000%...
Even on the beater, 175K mi, '96 F-150 I bought last fall all I did was drop the quart of oil that was in it(yes only a quart, if that), install a new filter and dump three misc quarts oi oil in it... After it ran approx 50 mi I changed oil and filter again and that was it... It had a surging that I traced to erratic EGR operation, no miracle in a can would have fixed that but no doubt many are sold just for such...
Ummmm... What?
IT CLEANS INTAKE VALVES FOR THOSE OF US THAT SAVE ON GAS.
SEAFOAM ISNT TOO STRONG, TO LOOSE SOMETHING IT SHOULDNT.
ARROGANCE!!! Uggh. Maybe THAT'S "cool."
Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: RiceCake
None, because I never need to do arbitrary "cleaning" because I have a car that functions correctly.
Seriously why do people invent problems? Seafoam just became a popular fix for a problem, nearest I can figure, almost nobody has.
Sure looks impressive when the burning seafoam makes a ton of smoke I guess.
Agreed 1000%...
Even on the beater, 175K mi, '96 F-150 I bought last fall all I did was drop the quart of oil that was in it(yes only a quart, if that), install a new filter and dump three misc quarts oi oil in it... After it ran approx 50 mi I changed oil and filter again and that was it... It had a surging that I traced to erratic EGR operation, no miracle in a can would have fixed that but no doubt many are sold just for such...
Ummmm... What?
I really wish you'd have put this in the Additives forum instead, thus keeping the hostility that this topic will no doubt produce confined to just one forum.
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