What is the iron issue with Mobil 1?

[d00df00d]

 Originally Posted By: tig1

Besides when some one here uses the word speculation, doesn't that really mean for fact?

What in the heck are you smoking?

 

[tig1]

 Originally Posted By: d00df00d

 Originally Posted By: tig1

Besides when some one here uses the word speculation, doesn't that really mean for fact?

What in the heck are you smoking?

Calm down, relax. Nothing aimed at you intentionally. Sorry if you took it that way. However many here do use the spec word and many take that for fact. Often that's how mis information starts. IMO.

 

[Gary Allan]

It depends. When someone says ..the data highly suggests .. Then those who want to believe the speculation consider it fact. If someone says ..that's inconclusive and you're merely speculating that it supports your assertion .. You'll accept or reject either on how it fits your desire for it to be factual.

 

[aquariuscsm]

I copied and pasted this off of Royal Purple`s product data sheet: Note: Engine oil’s solvency cleans wear metals and deposits left by previous oils. These wear metals and deposits can cause abnormally high values on used oil analysis until the engine is clean. Could this be why some synths like M1 will show fe wear metals like others have suggested in this thread?

 

[d00df00d]

 Originally Posted By: tig1

Calm down, relax. Nothing aimed at you intentionally. Sorry if you took it that way. However many here do use the spec word and many take that for fact. Often that's how mis information starts. IMO.

Others construing it that way is one thing. Someone meaning it that way is totally different. I can hardly fathom someone saying "speculation about" when they mean "the fact of" -- let alone can I imagine that to be the trend. I guess I can't speak for you, but to me that honestly sounds like saying black when you mean white.

 

[Nederlander75]

So, is it known how much Amsoil pays XOM for the base stock versus the raw cost to XOM should they include it in their end market product?

 

[saaber1]

 Originally Posted By: Gary Allan

It depends. When someone says ..the data highly suggests .. Then those who want to believe the speculation consider it fact. If someone says ..that's inconclusive and you're merely speculating that it supports your assertion .. You'll accept or reject either on how it fits your desire for it to be factual.

I am flumoxed at the fantastic fluctuation in factual evidence which coincidentally closely corresponds to conjecture, creating cause for careful consideration.

 

[Nederlander75]

Awesome isnt it. Goes to show you there is more than one way to skin a cat.

 

[Nederlander75]

FWIW Ive gotten my best UOAs off of RL and RP.

 

[ADFD1]

 Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm

I copied and pasted this off of Royal Purple`s product data sheet: Note: Engine oil’s solvency cleans wear metals and deposits left by previous oils. These wear metals and deposits can cause abnormally high values on used oil analysis until the engine is clean. Could this be why some synths like M1 will show fe wear metals like others have suggested in this thread?

This would be speculation: Could this be why some synths like M1 will show fe wear metals like others have suggested in this thread? [/quote] It is not a fact. It could be true, or false. AD

 

[StevieC]

 Originally Posted By: Nederlander75

FWIW Ive gotten my best UOAs off of RL and RP.

That doesn't equate to better wear protection as I'm sure the M1 guys will tell you.

 

[buster]

GM tests Mobil 1 extensively so I think if there were issues, it would show up among the millions of Vettes out there worldwide.

 

[Bill in Utah]

Millions of Vettes built since they did the factory fill? Millions? I doubt that there have been a million Vettes built since 1953. Since Mobil 1 as factory fill? No way.

 

[tig1]

Scroll down and find the total number of Vettes built. 1,500,000. http://www.corvetteblog.com/archives/cat-corvette-history.html

 

[Gary Allan]

54,xxx units a year was the last figure I saw (which is dated). I think that was in the 70's. I don't know if they ever expanded capacity. They sold every one of them. http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/07/15-millionth-corvette/

 

[Bill in Utah]

 Originally Posted By: tig1

Scroll down and find the total number of Vettes built. 1,500,000. http://www.corvetteblog.com/archives/cat-corvette-history.html

So that is millions? (hint, NOT MILLIONS) And EVERYONE has had Mobil 1 as factory fill? AND EVERYONE still using Mobil 1 as the oil? You really think Corvette owners continue with it? I'd bet more Synpower or PP is in Vettes than Mobil 1. Wow..

 

[Bill in Utah]

 Originally Posted By: Gary Allan

54,xxx units a year was the last figure I saw (which is dated). I think that was in the 70's. I don't know if they ever expanded capacity. They sold every one of them. http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/07/15-millionth-corvette/

1.5 million is not MILLIONS. Also they only started the Mobil 1 factory fill drool in the 90s when they dumped the oil cooler. Far from "millions".

 

[d00df00d]

Oh. Well if it's only hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Corvettes, I'm not impressed.

 

[Bill in Utah]

Not even that many. But who cares about REAL numbers. I doubt GM is selling (or making) 50k Vettes a year anymore. But anything to make the drinkers feel good about their oil. Whatever. My point is there is other oils out there that do JUST AS GOOD AS MOBIL 1. It is not the magic oil that the followers dream about and post here.

 

[d00df00d]

You're trying to contradict a point that was never made. No one is saying Mobil 1 is the best. They're just saying it's good, and that some of the reports of its inadequacy are spurious.