as the subject states...
thanks.
thanks.
what is Royal P. made of???
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Oil.
Sorry.....couldn't help it.
Are you asking as to what basestocks are used in RP?
(10000 comedians out of work................)
[ September 11, 2004, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: sbc350gearhead ]
Are you asking as to what basestocks are used in RP?
(10000 comedians out of work................)
[ September 11, 2004, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: sbc350gearhead ]
I am curious too. Group III, IV, or V. What is Synerlec?
But, from the MSDS:
"Components:
• Base Oil (synthetic) — Synthetic additives with iso-paraffinic diluents.
• The precise composition of this oil is proprietary. A more complete disclosure will be provided to a physician or nurse in the event of a medical emergency."
Even if you had accidently ingested half a quart and your doctor found out what is in it, he probably would not tell you.
But, from the MSDS:
"Components:
• Base Oil (synthetic) — Synthetic additives with iso-paraffinic diluents.
• The precise composition of this oil is proprietary. A more complete disclosure will be provided to a physician or nurse in the event of a medical emergency."
Even if you had accidently ingested half a quart and your doctor found out what is in it, he probably would not tell you.
is RP a true full synthetic? And, yes which basestocks are used?
I guess if you're really hard up to find out, you can go to the ER, tell the doc you just swilled a quart or two of RP, let them freak and call RP for the info, wait calmly for things to settle down, and then get a copy of your medical records.quote:
Originally posted by TallPaul:
I am curious too. Group III, IV, or V. What is Synerlec?
But, from the MSDS:
"Components:
• Base Oil (synthetic) — Synthetic additives with iso-paraffinic diluents.
• The precise composition of this oil is proprietary. A more complete disclosure will be provided to a physician or nurse in the event of a medical emergency."
Even if you had accidently ingested half a quart and your doctor found out what is in it, he probably would not tell you.
I would think not a majority in Group V or it likely would cost more (e.g., Redline's price). So maybe another question would be is there any advantage to Royal Purple over some of the other top synthetics in it's price range? IIRC, Royal Purple goes for around $5 a quart, similar to Mobil 1, though M1 often is on sale for around $4.
bunch of wiseguys, huh.
I just might have to do that and blame BITOG.COM for ingesting the RP. LoL.
I just might have to do that and blame BITOG.COM for ingesting the RP. LoL.
I was under the understanding that RP street oils are blends and not a true synthetic. What's you're take on it?
Do you know any medical students? Buy them a 6 pack and hand them the phone.quote:
Originally posted by mf150:
bunch of wiseguys, huh.
I just might have to do that and blame BITOG.COM for ingesting the RP. LoL.
Nope, but in the interest of empirical science, I just might have to apply.
Hmmmm, seems I recall that being suggested some time ago on this site. You may want to review some of the old RP threads. If it is a blend, pretty pricy.
I'm checking the old threads as we speak, but there isn't any directness eitherway.
Also the wording of the RP site is ambiguous as well. They say that it's a "blend of synthetics."
Also the wording of the RP site is ambiguous as well. They say that it's a "blend of synthetics."
I believe that it is mainly Group IV but uses a dino carrier. However, I believe that their racing oils such as Royal Purple 41 are a Group IV/Group V blend. To answer your question, Royal Purple is a true synthetic.
Some of you may recall, RP USED to claim their street oils where a blend, up until 2000 or so. I'm not sure if they changed the formula or their marketing.
I read the few earlier MSDS's/VOA's/UOA's as containing PAO's, but they tend to shear and thin a bit with extended use, not thicken.
I read the few earlier MSDS's/VOA's/UOA's as containing PAO's, but they tend to shear and thin a bit with extended use, not thicken.
According to RP..........the street oils are mostly group 4 and 5 , with group 1 used as a carrier oil.
Thickening or thinning of oils to a certain point is not a drastic happening, you also have to look at the wear metals. An oil that stays in grade, but produces high wear is not the best choice at times. I have seen a few UOA's of RP with high fuel dilution in the engine, and RP kept the wear in check.
If you require an API certified oil, Royal Purple is at the top of the list for Synthetics. If you want an unbeatable non-API then the RP Racing oils are a top choice. Royal Purple's Diff lubes and transmission fluids rate with the best. If you talk to a person selling oils they use Royal Purple as a benchmark to compare their product to. That is why I use the benchmark oil if I want to use synthetics.
So what is Royal Purple made of? I don't care, because it is a quality synthetic oil that performs very well in one of my diesel trucks and with the RP diff lube and transmission lube, I am happy. I am doing a 10K extended UOA, so none available yet.
JMO
If you require an API certified oil, Royal Purple is at the top of the list for Synthetics. If you want an unbeatable non-API then the RP Racing oils are a top choice. Royal Purple's Diff lubes and transmission fluids rate with the best. If you talk to a person selling oils they use Royal Purple as a benchmark to compare their product to. That is why I use the benchmark oil if I want to use synthetics.
So what is Royal Purple made of? I don't care, because it is a quality synthetic oil that performs very well in one of my diesel trucks and with the RP diff lube and transmission lube, I am happy. I am doing a 10K extended UOA, so none available yet.
JMO
Royal Purple's Products that are labeled as SHF "Synthetic" in the following grades: 5w30, 10W-40, 15w40 and 85W-140 (Gear Lubricant) do not have any PAO or Ester basestock components.
The products were touted as having these components but infrared analysis determined that there were no such basestock materials in the formulations.
This was further evidenced by examining the 4 Ball wear test results on the engine lubricants and the NOACK Volatility percentages on the gear lubricant (NOACK numbers were over 300%).
The ASTM 4172 testing scar results indicated wear scars indicative of group II or group III basestocks.
PAOs/Ester basestocks (if actually in a product's formulation) do not exhibit these type of percentages when subjected to Industry Standard Test benchmark procedures.
My research in aiding a state agency in determining if vendors were being honest in delivering the viscosity grades specified in the bid specs led to these discoveries.
Oil is oil.................
Synthetic is Synthetic ....
If the manufacturers in the computer industry marketed with claims like the example above they would be out of the market place in 90 days.
Game over.
Find another industry to play in.
The products were touted as having these components but infrared analysis determined that there were no such basestock materials in the formulations.
This was further evidenced by examining the 4 Ball wear test results on the engine lubricants and the NOACK Volatility percentages on the gear lubricant (NOACK numbers were over 300%).
The ASTM 4172 testing scar results indicated wear scars indicative of group II or group III basestocks.
PAOs/Ester basestocks (if actually in a product's formulation) do not exhibit these type of percentages when subjected to Industry Standard Test benchmark procedures.
My research in aiding a state agency in determining if vendors were being honest in delivering the viscosity grades specified in the bid specs led to these discoveries.
Oil is oil.................
Synthetic is Synthetic ....
If the manufacturers in the computer industry marketed with claims like the example above they would be out of the market place in 90 days.
Game over.
Find another industry to play in.
Holy Batman, my truck is about to fall apart or your info reminds me of a Christmas turkey. My truck is running like a top, so Christmas came early.
Batman,
What a product is composed of and marketed as is completely different than how your truck runs.
Royal Purple makes fine products....if you don't believe me listen to your truck.
The topic, again, was the composition of RP.
Not how your truck runs.
What a product is composed of and marketed as is completely different than how your truck runs.
Royal Purple makes fine products....if you don't believe me listen to your truck.
The topic, again, was the composition of RP.
Not how your truck runs.
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