What is Overdrive anyway

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Originally Posted By: hate2work
Never tow in overdrive, quickest way to ruin a tranny.


Oops - lucky I sold my old Pajero.I should have kept the trans I had for spares,but seeing as the old trans was still going at 350,000km I put it out on the curb...it was gone in 10 minutes.
 
"TOP" gear used to be the direct coupling of the input to the output shaft...a long long time ago (fortunately in this galaxy).

Overdrives were oft a different transfer case that would step up (over-drive) the 1:1 output. Later, they were integral to the main gearbox.

1:1 with a lower (nemerical) ratio gearbox will always be higher than an "overdrive" gearbox with a low diff.

But the whole concept of overdrive in the modern world of CVTs, 5 and 6 speed etc. is silly
 
It is silly considering that a) the average driver has no idea what it is and b) two of the five gears in my Ody are overdrive. In addition, because of Honda's hill-holding transmission feature it will never hunt for gears. Once it downshifts for a hill, it stays there. I suppose most companies are doing the same thing.

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Originally Posted By: refaller
It is silly considering that a) the average driver has no idea what it is and b) two of the five gears in my Ody are overdrive....


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I was thinking the same thing.

Like that silly "HOLD" button on the Mazda 626. As far as I could tell it only "held" the transmission out of 4th. It would still shift between 2nd and 3rd. I think the only purpose it really served is to be the beacon of Ford CD4E transmission death. When the "HOLD" light blinks, your transmission stinks.
 
Shannow is correct. Technically, OD is a transmission gear beyond 1:1. In practicality, OD is a marketing gimmick left over from the late 1970's. Years ago, like back in the 1950's, OD was an optional feature put in cars to gear down the drivetrain, and save gasoline for sustained high speed driving.

During the 1970's, gas became incredibly expensive. People (and manufacturers) were scrambling for ways to save gas. The manufacturers incorporated an OD gear into their 4-speed products, and capitalized their marketing on the memories of people who remember OD as a way to save gas. In reality, with the OD the differential was regeared, and the final gearing to the wheels in top gear was actually the same. The only savings was the 4-spd over the 3-spd, which gave better city cycle gas mileage.

I was a student engineer at Ford manual transmission back in 1978. I remember they took their stock 4-speed transmission, reversed the 3-4 shifting pattern so 3rd gear became direct drive, regeared the 4th gear to OD, and regeared the differential. Nothing was changed with the 1-2-3-4 gearing with respect to the final ratio to the wheels, but Ford could now advertise that they have OD in the manual transmissions.

Besides the marketing gimmick of the time, regearing 4-speed transmissions to OD - both manual and automatic - have an advantage over the traditional last gear as direct drive. They could build the transmission into a smaller package.

The down side of OD as final gear is that there is a nominal 4% energy loss of transmission across the gearing, which you do not have with direct coupling as final drive.
 
My Triumph Spitfire had a electro-hydraulic overdrive added in where the tailshaft of the transmission usually resides. It was engaged with a switch on the gearshift knob when you were in 3rd or 4th.

With a 4.11:1 rear end ratio you'd think that would help.

meh....not so much.

At 55mph you'd be at 3000 rpm in 4th. Engage the overdrive and it would drop about 400 rpm to 2600.


At least all the extra weight was low in the middle of the car.
 
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