what happened to the million mile claims?

It’s been that way for years. If your town has old style mail trucks with RHD, they are gas powered and don’t even have a cat. They might have PCV, but that’s it. They have always had exemptions.
 
And for years, EPA rules made gas engines emit less to compensate for diesels that were more difficult/expensive ( better lobbying) to bring down emissions on. So each gas engine car owner paid more at purchase and during ownership to allow diesels to roam the roads under these rules. It’s likely still the case.
 
It is true, they're under the exemption as "export vehicles" or "National security and military use exemptions for the government".

Think about it, do you really want your military vehicle cruising through the desert in Afghanistan and go into limp mode.
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I think mobile delvac used to claim it was the million mile oil. didn't see that on the new bottles, now I saw rotella claimed like 400,000 miles. What's with the conversative numbers now?
That truck was being monitored by Shell oil. It used Shell Rotella T 15W 40 conventional. Its old news. Road King Magazine asked me for the truck owners phone number in 1996. Did a article.The make up oil added at filter change is equal to a full oil change everh 40.000 miles. A Gulf.Coast 10 Quart filter is changed every 10.000 miles. Full flow filters every 50.000 miles.
 
Here’s a guarantee for 1.2 million kilometers ( 750,000 miles) or 20 years, whichever comes first. I’m on year 18 with 440,000 km. I should have signed up! I happened to have used Pennzoil mostly, but not necessarily the Ultra.

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Here’s a guarantee for 1.2 million kilometers ( 750,000 miles) or 20 years, whichever comes first. I’m on year 18 with 440,000 km. I should have signed up! I happened to have used Pennzoil mostly, but not necessarily the Ultra.

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Im not very smart but I know clean oil is better than dirty oil. Oil will last pretty much as long as you can keep it clean.
 
Gasoline engines in the US will be having GPF (gasoline particulate filters) very soon. Some already have them (2025 Maverick?) I believe. This is partly due to the fact that DI engines produce more fine soot than a similar PFI engine.

As for the topic of the thread, why are HDEO oils not claiming such claims? Probably a fear of litigation.

I will take a Port Fuel injected over Direct Injection every day.. DI, while on paper a "better way" produces nasty engines at the valves and intake ports.. where as Port injection with good additives in fuel keeps them cleaner which to me seems a better engine and produce lower emissions but not sure.. wayyy to many videos on walnut blasting intakes on engines with 120K miles. crazy..
 
Here’s a guarantee for 1.2 million kilometers ( 750,000 miles) or 20 years, whichever comes first. I’m on year 18 with 440,000 km. I should have signed up! I happened to have used Pennzoil mostly, but not necessarily the Ultra.

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have you done any oil analysis to see what is going on in the engine.? that 795K miles or 20 years. most people dont drive 745K MILES in a life time much less in one car/truck..

guess they only want to see you one container in your life.. LOL
 
have you done any oil analysis to see what is going on in the engine.? that 795K miles or 20 years. most people dont drive 745K MILES in a life time much less in one car/truck..

guess they only want to see you one container in your life.. LOL
I wore out several with a million miles on them. Or I should say helped wear out several. Never had any oil related issues or failures with 50k mile OCI’s on Delvac 1300 Super. Trucks were rotated out of line haul around 800k miles and moved to P&D. About 4.5M miles in my 40 year career.
Retired in 2018.
 
have you done any oil analysis to see what is going on in the engine.? that 795K miles or 20 years. most people dont drive 745K MILES in a life time much less in one car/truck..

guess they only want to see you one container in your life.. LOL
Although I am interested in oil analysis and have a few sample bottles available to me, I did not embrace sending samples in. In 2020 I did change from using 5w30 to using Euro 5W40 in summers, and using Euro 0W30 in the winters. I do two changes per year, one prior to summer, one prior to winter. Mostly still Pennzoil products because they do their rebates each year.
 
I wore out several with a million miles on them. Or I should say helped wear out several. Never had any oil related issues or failures with 50k mile OCI’s on Delvac 1300 Super. Trucks were rotated out of line haul around 800k miles and moved to P&D. About 4.5M miles in my 40 year career.
Retired in 2018.


Would bet that not a normal personal car or truck.. you are talking commercial line haul that run thousands of miles a week for years.. then yeah you can go more than 745K miles. but for the NORMAL person you might find 2 in 100 people you talk to.. When I was OTR driver we did 3500 miles a week no problem.. that close to 185K a year but not considered normal..
 
But yet vehicles going 200,000 miles and not leaving one stranded is not uncommon. I drove a million miles on the So Cal freeways, with strict pollution control in vehicles (as I am sure you know) and to see cars broken down on the freeway was very, very rare.
Ridiculous statement. 200k and not one person being left stranded? Not one? There is plenty of evidence, direct, physical, testimonial, and statistical evidence that clearly show otherwise.

That's what I think with guys who infringe on the cleanness of the of the air I breath.....and break Federal and/or state laws. But you know-'Merica don't infringe on my pickup truck.
The air YOU breathe? Seems a bit high and mighty do you think? You think your carbon footprint is less than others since you dont have pickup truck. Ever buy something from Amazon walmart or the like?....... that came from a ship from China using the nastiest HFO ever, off loaded by gigantic diesel electric forklifts on another "Murica" truck, to a large inefficient building, onto another "murica" truck to deliver your ball point pen that you ordered yesterday.
 
Gasoline engines in the US will be having GPF (gasoline particulate filters) very soon. Some already have them (2025 Maverick?) I believe. This is partly due to the fact that DI engines produce more fine soot than a similar PFI engine.

As for the topic of the thread, why are HDEO oils not claiming such claims? Probably a fear of litigation.
I think they're going to push those plans back pretty soon.
 
Ridiculous statement. 200k and not one person being left stranded? Not one? There is plenty of evidence, direct, physical, testimonial, and statistical evidence that clearly show otherwise.


The air YOU breathe? Seems a bit high and mighty do you think? You think your carbon footprint is less than others since you dont have pickup truck. Ever buy something from Amazon walmart or the like?....... that came from a ship from China using the nastiest HFO ever, off loaded by gigantic diesel electric forklifts on another "Murica" truck, to a large inefficient building, onto another "murica" truck to deliver your ball point pen that you ordered yesterday.

I would reply to this but I am respecting the Mod's (denewton3) wishes.
 
Ridiculous statement. 200k and not one person being left stranded? Not one? There is plenty of evidence, direct, physical, testimonial, and statistical evidence that clearly show otherwise.


The air YOU breathe? Seems a bit high and mighty do you think? You think your carbon footprint is less than others since you dont have pickup truck. Ever buy something from Amazon walmart or the like?....... that came from a ship from China using the nastiest HFO ever, off loaded by gigantic diesel electric forklifts on another "Murica" truck, to a large inefficient building, onto another "murica" truck to deliver your ball point pen that you ordered yesterday.
He tows a 5000 lbs travel trailer and has owned several LT’s …
Don’t think that was his point …
 
Gasoline engines in the US will be having GPF (gasoline particulate filters) very soon. Some already have them (2025 Maverick?) I believe. This is partly due to the fact that DI engines produce more fine soot than a similar PFI engine.

As for the topic of the thread, why are HDEO oils not claiming such claims? Probably a fear of litigation.
I agree. I think that, of course was marketing. If I remember right, about 15years ago, Valvoline had 150k for conventional, like 350k for Maxlife and 500 for full syn. Dumb really.

GDIPF's huh. I have about had it with the acronyms.
 
You won’t get to a million miles without emission issues. Detroit’s One Box was $18k with no labor and has probably gone up in price since 2022. There’s a filter inside of it that’s not replaceable and clogs up. We were first in line for when they came back in stock nationwide but decided to sell the trucks and trailers because of the other parts availability issues and we could see the issues of 2008 on the horizon for freight prices and did not want to relive that again.
 
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